--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DED00000 Date: 10/08/96 From: BILL ANDERSON Time: 12:00pm \/To: NORVELL E. VON (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 2 Epredict.212--Septe -=> Quoting Norvell E. Von to Aall <=-2 Epredict.212--September NEV> * Please, before I begin, let me say that this NEV> letter is written in humor. I do not mean to hurt NEV> anyone with my words. I do, however, wish you NEV> to become red in the face with embarassment, << snip>> to save space I'll shortern these rantings NEV> defined religion. That having been said.....You NEV> people are a bunch of crackpots. Your kind has NEV> been predicting the demise of the world for NEV> hundreds of years. A vision of a scraggly, NEV> white-haired, unkempt man with a scornful look NEV> and holding a sign that reads "REPENT! The NEV> end of the world is nigh!" comes vividly to mind NEV> as I read your ridiculous West Coast Earthquake NEV> Scenario. Humor taken, because I really can't be sure whether to take you seriously. You're poking fun at the psychics to feel more secure with "all is right with the world" but if you have that Bible you should open it to the Book Of Revelations. It will be easy to find the first time you look for it if you just turn to the very back of the book. Read it through, maybe read it twice, and see if you still feel that the world can not end... --- * Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * --- GOMail v2.0 [94-0605] * Origin: The Buzzard's Roost, Pueblo, CO (719) 564-8235 (1:307/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00000 Date: 10/08/96 From: BILL HEIDRICK Time: 8:48:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: ::: Brother Jacques at Crowleymas ::8:48:33010/08/96 From: "Bill Heidrick" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranorm al.channeling,alt.magick Organization: Whole Earth Networks News Original Date: 8 Oct 1996 16:29:32 GMT taliesin@mail.utexas.edu (George Leake) writes: >*G. Leake replies >*on this type-o-subject, RA Wilson in his review of Holy Blood, Holy Grail >in some back issue of GNOSIS brings up posing as a mason...apparently he >got away with it easily enough. So perhaps he is able to pass as an OTO >member somehow also? As I understand it, Bob gave somebody some sort of recognition and they gave him a pretty paper with IXth degree OTO on it in return. I don't know if Bob had the authority to do what he did, probably so. The others, whoever they were, weren't in OTO. >Of course, I can't speak for Kenneth, but he was expelled from O.T.O. >in 1955 e.v. -- so it's mutual. >*I wonder if it was over this supposed space alien connection...? Someone >at a cocktail party the other day though mused it was over Cthulhu-esque >prosletyzing... Nope. I don't think (am not sure) Kenneth was claiming that sort of thing then. The problem was two-fold. Grant had published his Nu-Isis manifesto, managing in the process to screw up the titles of authority in OTO. That included multiple "OHO's", including some folks that Germer didn't like in Germany. Although Grant did recognize Germer under the title "Frater S." as international head of OTO, the error of asserting more than one OHO in that document was pretty bad. Germer also took extreme exception to anyone issuing an OTO manifesto -- since even Crowley did not do that without Reuss' approval. The other problem was from correspondence between Grant and Germer. Grant wrote to Germer that Grant's H.G.A. had communicated new rituals to him for OTO, but Germer was forbidden to see them -- that alone would justify expulsion, since it amounts to a direct denial of Germer's headship. Germer dashed off the expulsion order and also wrote to Noel Fitzgerald, ordering Noel to see that the Grant ceased to claim to operate OTO and making Noel Germer's limited representative in the UK to block any claim to operate OTO in that region. I don't know of Noel did anything about it, but Germer sent a follow up later. Grant mostly operated without publicity after that, until Germer died. >*yeah! Another interesting connection is the whole LRon Hubbard thing. >What's all this buzz of late that the Church of Scientology itself with >the Moonies and the Mormons are the "fronts of the aliens from Arcturus"? Different star, I think. LRon wrote some good space operas. I suspect that Scientology owes more to the SF melodrama period than to Crowley's material. Doc Smith's stuff is similar. A.E.Van Vogt gives a better read of the Scientology pragmatic ideals than I've found in Hubbard. 93 93/93 Bill Heidrick --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00001 Date: 10/08/96 From: ALFA Time: 8:48:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Psychic Phenomena - Free Book From: "Alfa" Newsgroups: lt.paranormal,alt.paranormal.channeling,talk.religion.newage,alt. consciousness.near-death-exp,alt.magick Organization: Omen Computer Services, Perth, Western Australia Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 08:09:22 GMT Scientific & philosophic spiritualism is currently known as Christian Rationalism (NOT religion) and deals with: Physical & Psychic Phenomena, Meditation, Reincarnation, Incorporeal Life, Space & the Universe, the Power of Thought, Mediumnity, Evolution, Gods & Religions, Force & Matter, the Aura, Ethics, Psychic Support & Recovery, Family & Children, etc. (1) If interested you can get the book from the WEB. and save it to a disk.: http://www.omen.com.au/~alfa <===== try this one first http://www.spiritweb.org/CR/ (2) Alternatively we can send you the book via email. 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For details please visit: http://www.omen.com.au/~alfa ******************************************************* --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00002 Date: 10/08/96 From: LLOYD MCMAHAN Time: 8:48:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: NEXT WINDOW OCT. 7TH, 1996 From: "Lloyd McMahan" Newsgroups: lt.paranet.skeptic,alt.paranormal.channeling,alt.paranormal.spell s.hexes.magic Organization: Toronto Free-Net Original Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:21:48 GMT michael brinn (upueast@pipeline.com) wrote: [...] : >In article <52pt78$ari@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, : > Dr.Turi@worldnet.att.net (drturi) wrote: : > : >>parents. Stay clear of nasty weather as some will fall victims of lightings [...] : LIGHTNING! : cheech! You were wrong to criticize The Master. The Master, being The Embodiment of Perfection, does not misspell. When The Master says "victims of lightings," he means just that ... Had you taken the time to read this thread more carefully, you would know that there are some who have ALREADY fallen "victims of lightings" as The Master unerringly predicted. And it came to pass that, thus enlightened, they posted to this thread, and shat upon The Master. But yet the Master forgave them. Truly, He is The Embodiment of Perfection-- --Blessed Be, LM (lowly & unworthy servant of The Master) --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00003 Date: 10/08/96 From: POP3@PSI.COM Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: **SELL YOUR DOMAIN. HARD CASH FOR HITS!9:23:54810/08/96 From: pop3@psi.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:17:19 GMT Do you have an internet domain name that is currently receiving hits? Do you have an internet program, magazine or promotion you'd like to see get BIGGER? E-mail us at: DomainSell@aol.com HARD CASH ALWAYS PAID FOR REAL HITS!!! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00004 Date: 10/08/96 From: WUZNEW Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <533ufp$ea9@newsbf02.news.ao9:23:54810/08/96 From: "wuznew" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Original Date: 7 Oct 1996 15:23:16 -0400 Please cancel this posting --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00005 Date: 10/08/96 From: MIKLOS POWER Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Better world ! From: "Miklos Power" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: ESP Original Date: 7 Oct 1996 23:46:32 GMT You are absolutely right. It's good to see some people who actually know the story these days. Fear about the future of the Earth is exactly what the "Luciferic Conciousness" wants. Fear is a negative thing and it brings us down and gets them closer to their cause. The only way to fight them is through Love. Think positive always, and whenever you think negative, turn it around in your mind so that it's positive. Thoughts are indeed very powerful things. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00006 Date: 10/08/96 From: MIKLOS POWER Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: and the truth shall set you free From: "Miklos Power" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: ESP Original Date: 7 Oct 1996 23:46:44 GMT Hi I just wanted to post a message to let everybody know (if they don't already) about a great book called "and the truth shall set you free" by David Icke. If you see it you should read it. --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00007 Date: 10/08/96 From: GEORGE LEAKE Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: ::: Brother Jacques at Crowleymas ::9:23:54810/08/96 From: "George Leake" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct,alt.paranorm al.channeling,alt.magick Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Original Date: 7 Oct 1996 23:09:49 GMT density4@cts.com (Blue Resonant Human) writes: >As told by Frater Robert Anton Wilson; Holy Discordian, OTO >Initiate and CAW Water Brother in his Outstanding Masterpiece of >Speculative Illumination "Cosmic Trigger." Recalling Crowleymas >(October 12) 1974, Brother Wilson hath eloquently stated: heidrick@well.com (Bill Heidrick) wrote: Although he is a friendly sort, Robert A. Wilson never joined or received membership in OTO. He had a fancy certificate on his wall, when he lived on Claremont Ave. in Berkeley, but that was a not for real. *G. Leake replies *on this type-o-subject, RA Wilson in his review of Holy Blood, Holy Grail in some back issue of GNOSIS brings up posing as a mason...apparently he got away with it easily enough. So perhaps he is able to pass as an OTO member somehow also? >I asked Grady McMurty if Aleister Crowley had ever said anything >to him implying the extraterrestrial theory which Kenneth Grant, >Outer Head of another Ordo Templi Orientis, implies in his >accounts of Crowley's contacts with Higher Intelligences. Of course, I can't speak for Kenneth, but he was expelled from O.T.O. in 1955 e.v. -- so it's mutual. *I wonder if it was over this supposed space alien connection...? Someone at a cocktail party the other day though mused it was over Cthulhu-esque prosletyzing... >"Some of the things Aleister said to me," Grady replied >carefully, "could be interpreted as hints pointing that way." >He went on to quote Crowley's aphorisms about various of the >standard entities contacted by Magick. The Abramelin spirits, >for instance, need to be watched carefully. "They bite," >Aleister explained in his best deadpan am-I-kidding-or-not? >style. The Enochian "angels," on the other hand, don't always >have to be summoned. "When you're ready, they come for you," >Aleister said flatly. Yep, different time, different metaphor. One can always reinterpret the metaphor, but that would not necessarily be recognizable to the first to express it. *one wonders if the "they" refers to the men in the nice white uniforms... >both by a most scrupulous historian, >Dr. Francis Yates, Dee was almost certainly a prime mover in >the "Illuminati" and "Rosicrucian Brotherhoods" of that time, That would be a little difficult, since the Illuminati didn't exist until almost two centuries after John Dee's death. *unless you subscribe to a variation of one of these theories: a)the Illuminati itself was the Priory of Sion b) the Illuminati was in reality the money-lenders--those whose descendents now hold all the strings. The Rosicrucian matter is possible, but was not publicised until Dee was pretty much committed to other things. Possibly precursors are involved. *these possibilities smack of the alleged "Corsican connection" to the JFK assasination... >Grady McMurty-Caliph of the Ordo Templi Orientis said, in effect, >that the theory of higher dimensions made more sense to him than >the extraterrestrial theory in terms of actual space ships entering >our biosphere. Interesting that Grady used to hang out in LA with Ray Bradbury and other notable SF pioneers -- yet he had this view. *yeah! Another interesting connection is the whole LRon Hubbard thing. What's all this buzz of late that the Church of Scientology itself with the Moonies and the Mormons are the "fronts of the aliens from Arcturus"? -- &&& Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, "I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease". Disraeli replied, "That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress." -G.Leake, taliesin@mail.utexas.edu 512-471-9117 taliesin@mail.utexas.edu --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEE00008 Date: 10/08/96 From: POP3@PSI.COM Time: 9:23:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: *MAN TO MAN! LIVE GUYS AT: http://www.9:23:55810/08/96 From: pop3@psi.com Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 15:35:05 GMT DISCREET AND PROFESSIONAL. It's true!! PLAYGIRL MAGAZINE has hit the Internet. Take your pick of personal pleasure. CHECK US OUT AT: http://www.playgirlmag.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)