--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00027 Date: 10/06/96 From: JAMES LOPEZ Time: 5:47:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Where Do We Go When We Die? From: "James Lopez" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:03:06 +0100 In message <19961001090809.aaaa003_J@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> sydney writes: > I am hoping that someone could give me some sense of direction. Losing > my father has been quite difficult, I have heard of channeling as a > way to contact the recently departed. I would appreciate anyone telling > of their experiences with this. What is this parallel universe? > > Thank you. > Syd Be very cautious Syd. There are many frauds in the business of chanelling. Buy the Psychic News and read the adverts. Choose carefully, particularly if money is involved. Your father is not lost, he is as close to you now as he ever was. Just existing on a different level of vibration but in the same space. -- James Lopez james.lopez@zetnet.co.uk --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00028 Date: 10/06/96 From: JAMES LOPEZ Time: 5:47:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Question? From: "James Lopez" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:14:07 +0100 In message <52t5bf$h9d@news.vic.com> khwicker@vic.com (hope renae wicker) writes: > I channel and was wondering am i crazy for doing it.. i just need > someone to talk things like this over with > thanks > khwicker@vic.com Do you channell in a group? Who is your Guide? Are you conscious when you channel? 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Glenda Stocks (Moderator) --- FileMgr 3103G * Origin: FileMgr -- The Ultimate Fileprocessor (1:330/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00030 Date: 10/06/96 From: BLUE RESONANT HUMAN Time: 3:51:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: ::: The Nine Unknown Men ::: From: "Blue Resonant Human" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.illuminati,talk.religion.misc,alt.paranorma l.channeling,alt.magick Organization: CTS Network Services Original Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 18:25:48 GMT The Nine Unknown Men ==================== This tradition goes back to the time of Emperor Asoka, who reigned in India from 273 B.C. He was the grandson of Chandragupta who was the first to unify India. Ambitious like his ancestor whose achievements he was anxious to complete, he conquered the region of Kalinga which lay between what is now Calcutta and Madras. The Kalingans resisted and lost 100,000 men in the battle. At the sight of this massacre Asoka was overcome. For ever after he experienced a horror of war. He renounced the idea of trying to integrate the rebellious people, declaring that the only true conquest was to win men's hearts by observance of the laws of duty and piety, because the Sacred Majesty desired that all living creatures should enjoy security, peace and happiness and be free to live as they pleased. A convert to Buddhism, Asoka, by his own virtuous example, spread this religion throughout India and his entire empire which included Malaya, Ceylon and Indonesia. Later Buddhism penetrated to Nepal, Thibet, China and Mongolia. Asoka nevertheless respected all religious sects. He preached vegetarianism, abolished alcohol and the slaughter of animals. H.G. Wells, in his abridged version of his Outline of World History wrote: "Among the tens of thousands of names of monarchs accumulated in the files of history, the name of Asoka shines almost alone, like a star." It is said that the Emperor Asoka, aware of the horrors of war, wished to forbid men ever to put their intelligence to evil uses. During his reign natural science, past and present, was vowed to secrecy. Henceforward, and for the next 2,000 years, all researches, ranging from the structure of matter to the techniques employed in collective psychology, were to be hidden behind the mystical mask of a people commonly believed to be exclusively concerned with ecstasy and supernatural phenomena. Asoka founded the most powerful secret society on earth: that of the Nine Unknown Men. It is still thought that the great men responsible for the destiny of modern India, and scientists like Bose and Ram believe in the existence of the Nine, and even receive advice and messages from them. [cf. Phyllis Schlemmer's modern "Council of Nine" which "channeling" sessions have drawn such notables as Uri "Spoon-Bender" Geller, physicist Dr. Andrija "SPECTRA" Puharich (who once noted that Geller's entity was Horus/Hawk-like in appearance -- another story for another time perhaps) and, of course, societal sci-fi metaprogrammer extraordinaire Gene "Star Trek" Roddenberry -B:.B:.] One can imagine the extraordinary importance of secret knowledge in the hands of nine men benefiting directly from experiments, studies and documents accumulated over a period of more than 2,000 years. What can have been the aim of these men? Not to allow methods of destruction to fall into the hands of unqualified persons, and to pursue knowledge which would benefit mankind. Their numbers would be renewed by co-option, so as to preserve the secrecy of techniques handed down from ancient times. Examples of the Nine Unknown Men making contact with the outer world are rare. There was, however, the extraordinary case of one of the most mysterious figures in Western history: the Pope Sylvester II, known also by the name of Gerbert d'Aurillac. Born in the Auvergne in 920 (d. 1003) Gerbert was a Benedictine monk, professor at the University of Rheims, Archbishop of Ravenna and Pope by the grace of Otho III. He is supposed to have spent some time in Spain, after which a mysterious voyage brought him to India where he is reputed to have acquired various kinds of skills which stupefied his entourage. For example, he possessed in his palace a bronze head which answered Yes or No to questions put to it on politics or the general position of Christianity. [cf. "Max the Crystal Skull" of current notoriety -B:.B:.] According to Sylvester II this was a perfectly simple operation corresponding to a two-figure calculation, and was performed by an automaton similar to our modem binary machines. This "magic" head was destroyed when Sylvester died, and all the information it imparted carefully concealed. No doubt an author- ized research worker would come across some surprising things in the Vatican Library. In the cybernetics journal, Computers and Automation of October 1954, the following comment appeared: "We must suppose that he (Sylvester) was possessed of extraordinary knowledge and the most remarkable mechanical skill and inventiveness. This speaking head must have been fashioned 'under a certain conjunction of stars occurring at the exact moment when all the planets were starting on their courses.' Neither the past, nor the present nor the future entered into it, since this invention apparently far exceeded in its scope its rival, the perverse 'mirror on the wall' of the Queen, the precursor of our modern electronic brain. Naturally, it was widely asserted that Gerbert was only able to produce such a machine because he was in league with the Devil and had sworn eternal allegiance to him." Had other Europeans any contact with this society of the Nine Unknown Men? It was not until the nineteenth century that this mystery was referred to again in the works of the French writer Jacolliot. Jacolliot was French Consul at Calcutta under the Second Empire. He wrote some quite important prophetic works, comparable, if not superior to those of Jules Verne. He also left several books dealing with the great secrets of the human race. A great many occult writers, prophets and miracle-workers have borrowed from his writings which, completely neglected in France, are well known in Russia. Jacolliot states categorically that the society of Nine did actually exist. And, to make it all the more intriguing, he refers in this connection to certain techniques, unimaginable in 1860, such as, for example, the liberation of energy, sterilization by radiation and psychological warfare. Yersin, one of Pasteur and de Roux's closest collaborators, was entrusted, it seems, with certain biological secrets when he visited Madras in 1860, and following the instructions he received was able to prepare a serum against cholera and the plague. [Yet in these current Eschatological Times of Trouble, have these hidden secrets slipped into the hands of vile and profane individuals such as Wolf "Herr Doktor AIDS" Smuzness and, of course, "Oppie's boys" over at the LANL labs? -B:.B:.] The story of the Nine Unknown Men was popularized for the first time in I927 in a book by Talbot Mundy who for twenty-five years was a member of the British police force in India. His book is half fiction, half scientific inquiry. The Nine apparently employed a synthetic language [Enochian? -B:.B:.], and each of them was in possession of a book that was constantly being rewritten and containing a detailed account of some science. [Note here the Qabbalistic "synchronicities" in the subjects of the Nine Books. -B:.B:.] The first of these books is said to have been devoted to the technique of propaganda and psychological warfare. "The most dangerous of all sciences," wrote Mundy, "is that of moulding mass opinion, because it would enable anyone to govern the whole world." [Indeed, cf. the Rockefeller-funded exploits of such notables as Harvard's Dr. John Mack and CSETI's Dr. Steve Greer along with such other notables as the military/intelligence community's Psyop (psychological warfare operative) Extraordinaire Michael "Temple of Set" Acquino, Dr. John "LSD, Dolphins 'n Sensory Deprivation Tanks" Lilly, The BABALON Bunch (i.e. Crowley, Parsons 'n Hubbard), etc. etc. etc. -B:.B:.] It must be remembered that Korjybski's General Semantics did not appear until 1937 and that it was not until the West had had the experience of the last World War that the techniques of the psychology of language, i.e. propaganda, could be formulated. The first American college of semantics only came into being in 1950. In France almost the only book that is at all well known is Serge Tchocotine's Le Viol des Foules [i.e. "The Rape of the Masses," no doubt a take-off on Ortega y Gasset's classic socio- logical work of the same name. -B:.B:.] which has had a consider- able influence in intellectual political circles, although it deals only superficially with the subject. The second book was on physiology. It explained, among other things, how it is possible to kill a man by touching him, death being caused by a reversal of the nerve-impulse. It is said that Judo is a result of "leakages" from this book. The third volume was a study on microbiology, and dealt especially with protective colloids. The fourth was concerned with the transmutation of metals. There is a legend that in times of drought temples and religious relief organizations received large quantities of fine gold from a secret source. The fifth volume contains a study of all means of communication, terrestrial and extra-terrestrial. [Keep in mind this is circa 250 B.C.E. -B:.B:.] The sixth expounds the secrets of gravitation. The seventh contains the most exhaustive cosmogony known to humanity. The eighth deals with light. The ninth volume, on sociology, gives the rules for the evolution of societies, and the means of foretelling their decline. Connected with the Nine Unknown Men is the mystery of the waters of the Ganges. Multitudes of pilgrims, suffering from the most appalling diseases, bathe in them without harming the healthy ones. The sacred waters purify everything. Their strange properties have been attributed to the fact that they contain bacteriophages. But why should these not be formed in the Bramaputra, the Amazon or the Seine? Jacolliot in his book advances the theory of sterilization by radiation, a hundred years before such a thing was thought to be possible. These radiations, he says, probably come from a secret temple hollowed out in the bed of the Ganges. Avoiding all forms of religious, social or political agitations, deliberately and perfectly concealed from the public eye, the Nine were the incarnation of the ideal man of science, serenely aloof, but conscious of his moral obligations. Having the power to mould the destiny of the human race, but refraining from its exercise, this secret society is the finest tribute imaginable to freedom of the most exalted kind. Looking down from the watch-tower of their hidden glory, these Nine Unknown Men watched civilizations being born, destroyed and re-born again, tolerant rather than indifferent, and ready to come to the rescue -- but always observing that rule of silence that is the mark of human greatness. Myth or reality? A magnificent myth, in any case, and one that has issued from the depths of time -- a harbinger, maybe, of the future ? Excerpt from: "The Dawn of Magic" 1960 by Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier Anthony Gibbs & Phillips Ltd., London --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00031 Date: 10/06/96 From: ROBERT BRAVER Time: 3:51:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <5393g8$4ke@usenet4.interram3:51:34910/06/96 From: "Robert Braver" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 6 Oct 1996 20:49:26 GMT Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NWNT Original Subject: This SLIT is open. FREE SAMPLES: http://www.nwnt.com/slit --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00032 Date: 10/06/96 From: ROBERT BRAVER Time: 3:51:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: cmsg cancel <539jve$6il@usenet10.interra3:51:34910/06/96 From: "Robert Braver" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Original Date: 7 Oct 1996 01:29:37 GMT Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: PLAYGIRLMAG Original Subject: !NAKED MEN. FREE SAMPLES - http://www.playgirlmag.com --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00033 Date: 10/07/96 From: BRIAN ZEILER Time: 5:49:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: ::: The Sorceries of ZOS ::: From: "Brian Zeiler" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet. abduct,alt.paranormal.channeling,talk.religion.newage Organization: Project Sigma Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 03:43:53 -0700 Blue Resonant Human wrote: > >Yet ANOTHER off topic post! I think it's time to killfile Blue. > > We Eagerly Await the day when tho learnest to read, my dear Agent > Potassium. For had thou done so, thou wouldest have pseen that the > post was *far* more ON-topic than the vast bulk of bandwidth on this > silly list. Blue, your posts used to be amusing and occasionally topical, but they're so rabidly incoherent that you've become the Killfile Posterboy. Hell, you're the Kevorkian Posterboy. Then you can donate your brain to Col. Alexander, who probably has had a claim to it for the past three months anyway. -- Brian Zeiler --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00034 Date: 10/07/96 From: HARRY LILJESTRM Time: 5:49:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Better world ! From: "HARRY LILJESTRM" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Swedish Institute of Technology Original Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:47:35 GMT I have been following the discussions and the writings about the destiny of the planet Earth. Some people say that the Earth is going to be destroyed and others say that the Earth is going to the foton zone. People who thinks this thoughts and they who agrees these creates a strong 'field of thoughts'. This field can have a bad influence to our beatiful planet and it wraps the positive development on the Earth. Let's create instead positive thoughts and remember that our thoughts have a great power and let's make the planet Earth a better place for everybody and we can start it in our thoughts ! --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00035 Date: 10/07/96 From: HOPE RENAE WICKER Time: 5:49:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sheilding Reply-to: khwicker@vic.com From: "hope renae wicker" Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling Organization: Virtual Interactive Center Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 03:12:42 GMT Blessed be, well some of ya'll have e-mailed me in respone to my post.. thank -you i have another question for you all how would i shlied myslef( i cna't spell btw:() I mean .. i just can't do it.. i dunno.. i know i have my 'gifts' naturaly but i cna't shield i feel do then i will miss helping someone or something that needs me.. help? khwicker@vic.com Blessed be and may the earth carry you --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 258 CHANNELING Ref: DEC00036 Date: 10/07/96 From: MIKE HUGHES Time: 5:49:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: ::: The Sorceries of ZOS ::: From: "Mike Hughes" Newsgroups: lt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet. abduct,alt.paranormal.channeling,talk.religion.newage Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Original Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 13:31:22 -0500 Blue, I, for one, tremendously enjoyeth thy postings, and will not deem thou "killfile posterboy". I find your metanalysis quite intriguing. My own UFO related experiences (http://www.charm.net/~profpan/ppufo.html) have convinced me that there is much more to this complex phenomenon than meets the radar-enhanced eye. I don't disparage those who search for the proof of the ETH on the physical plane (Zeiler et al.), but the whole truth must be approached on several levels, not only the mundane. Keep it up, br(other). Mike --- MailGate 0.25e * Origin: Ask your Fido Feed for I_UFO (1:330/201.1)