--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00000Date: 12/13/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 07:59pm \/To: SUE ALEXANDER (Read 1 times) Subj: It is happening again SA>SA>major medical concerns like asthma or immune difficulties the shot SA>SA>may be useful (talk to your doctor), but for most healthy adults SA>SA>under 65 or so it is not considered that useful. SA>MP> Well, not exactly. If you are someone who seems to get sick and it SA>MP> lasts and lasts, a flu shot makes good sense. SA> Um, I was talking about the pneumonia vaccine. Pray tell...what is the SA>point you were trying to convey here? There are over 30 known organisms that cause "pneumonia". We don't vaccinate for all of them. The virus will mutate greatly from one year to the next. I will ususally pick up a two week bout of whatever is going around early in the season, generally in October, then be able to fight off being sick for the rest of the winter. That is, if I am in good condition. * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00001Date: 12/13/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:00pm \/To: GEORGE LAGERGREN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Colds & Vitamin C GL> TA> vitamin C is not a miracle drug on its own. take it with a multi GL> TA> vitamin or with a mineral supplement (Biospectrum 26 is the best one GL> TA> its especially good for asthma and arthritis). GL> Is the Biospectrum 26 local to New Zealand? What company makes it? GL> What components make it good for asthma and arthritis? GL> Thanks. George from USA. We have several vitamin outfits here that do a good job of providing consumer choices. * SLMR 2.1a * Hell hath no fury like the attorney of a woman scorned. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00002Date: 12/19/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 11:10am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Website MP>While it may appear that this is an anti-alternative med site, reading MP>the articles (there are over 200) says just the opposite, e.g., we had a MP>recent thread about shark cartilage and how it helps arthritis. The MP>article on glucosomine(??) is quite favorable, and, in fact,reported MP>double blind, placebo controlled studies showing safety and efficacy. It also works better when chondroitin is added. I've also seen some of the studies available and talked to some who have used it. And it has the pain I have down to the one knee. The one that got the pepper based cream. I see ads for that all the time. I do hope that people know that they can be just as allergic to it when applied to the skin as they can when it is swallowed. ----- Operator Halted! --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00003Date: 12/20/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 11:38am \/To: SHARON MCCORMICK (Read 1 times) Subj: Advice Please SM>DS> How does one get anesthesia out of the body? I had two surgeries and my SM>b SM>DS> is refusing to function other than basic survival skills. Dia, I'm starting to be concerned about this. You've mentioned it long enough now that it evidently is a source of problem for you. Do you have some sort of alternative healer around that you can also consult besides your doctors? Frankly, I'm hoping some Native American shaman or medicine woman will help you out. Or at least someone who won't just hand you a prescription for more drugs without knowing what is wrong. --- SLMR 2.1a This tagline is umop apisdn * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00004Date: 12/20/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 11:38am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Advice Please SM>DS> How does one get anesthesia out of the body? I had two surgeries and my SM>b SM>DS> is refusing to function other than basic survival skills. Dia, I'm starting to be concerned about this. You've mentioned it long enough now that it evidently is a source of problem for you. Do you have some sort of alternative healer around that you can also consult besides your doctors? Frankly, I'm hoping some Native American shaman or medicine woman will help you out. Or at least someone who won't just hand you a prescription for more drugs without knowing what is wrong. --- SLMR 2.1a This tagline is umop apisdn * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00005Date: 12/20/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 11:38am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: It Is Happening Again DS>> And if you come to San Francisco, you could smoke some legal DS>> medical marijuana to ease you through the course of your DS>> recovery DS>And for you how about a large cake of lye soap for your nasty mouth... Hmmmm........ That sounds like something I might write with the same provocation :). --- SLMR 2.1a hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00006Date: 12/20/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 12:4:am \/To: SHARON MCCORMICK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: advice please > That sounds odd to me, Dia. Have you asked your doctor > about it? Drs now only surger and then they don't know you anymore. The anesthesia they use now stays with you longer, makes you forget and messes up the brain for awhile..nasty feeling..can't remember much and brain keeps kicking out of gear so you just sit there and wonder what they heck you were doing...it will wear off eventually..(I hope)... DId you have any problems with digestion after? --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGQ00007Date: 12/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:55am \/To: TY MEISSNER (Read 1 times) Subj: can't argue with OBS TM> You'll never ever win an argument or debate with someone with TM> Organic Brain Syndrome. All that drug "research" Jane did in TM> her younger and wilder days has taken it's toll. Speak for yourself. I've never abused drugs to that degree. What I did do was use one pediatric capsule of Dilatin a day for ten years in recovery from alcoholism. I stopped drinking when I realized my tolerance for that drug had dropped: one bottle of beer gave me a three day headache. I'd worked at Shadel Hospital in Seattle part time as an R.N. in the summertime and learned much from reading patient files. Yup. And functioned quite well thank you during that time. No loss of nurses' license, no loss of income with which to raise my two girls. Worked fine until my body rebelled and the immune system went to hell in a handbasket. Dilantin can be one of the more dangerous drugs to use for idiopathic epilepsy which is exactly why some doctors replace it with Tegretol as fast as they can. One of them was the woman who headed up the drug treatment unit in the Juneau hosptial when I worked in Alaska. She held inservice sessions for counselors in various places, one being in Ketchikan. I was able to fly over from Metlakatla one day and catch her. She explained quite clearly why she didn't like Dilantin. I'd detoxed from that drug with the help of other addicts. Ever try to tell someone that you think you don't need a drug like that anymore? It is one of the easiest legal drugs to abuse. No one will deny a prescription to anyone who asks for it. And no pharmacy will refuse to sell someone one or two pills "until the doctor can phone in". What the Dilantin did for me was act like speed. My mind went too fast and still can go faster than it is sometimes comfortable, even for me. Why did I start in on this? Because of an article in some national magazine by someone who had used it for the same reason. It does work, for awhile. But then, so does marijuana, Demerol, morphine, Diluadid, and a host of other substances. Until the tolerance is gone and addiction begins. Getting rid of one drug with another drug is not getting clean and sober. * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGT00000Date: 12/22/97 From: SHARON MCCORMICK Time: 03:59pm \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: advice please DS> Drs now only surger and then they don't know you anymore. The anesthesia DS> use now stays with you longer, makes you forget and messes up the brain o DS> awhile..nasty feeling..can't remember much and brain keeps kicking out of DS> so you just sit there and wonder what they heck you were doing...it will DS> off eventually..(I hope)... DS> DS> DId you have any problems with digestion after? nope. I have some problems in spring and fall with my peptic ulcer, and when it flares up, I cut down on the hot peppers (g). But after the gall bladder surgery, I didn't have any problems. I have my gallstones in a jar, they look just like gravel from a driveway! --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGT00001Date: 12/13/97 From: CHRIS MCCARTHY Time: 08:19am \/To: CHRIS MCCARTHY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Thrush Hi Chris Mccarthy, hope you are having a nice day 04-Dec-97 02:09:00, Chris Mccarthy wrote to Dia Spriggs Subject: Re: Thrush CM> Um,, Uou sure you got the right person?? I Havnt got the fogiest CM> idea what you are talking about.. Sorry.. Chris.... Just to clear the confusion...we obviously have 2 Chris McCarthy's on opposite sides of the world! in this echco. -=> Yours sincerely, Chris McCarthy (in UK) <=- --- Terminate 5.00/Pro * Origin: Terminate SmartNote: Remembers & recalls everything! 2:2501/308.7)