--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00001Date: 12/13/97 From: SUE ALEXANDER Time: 01:40am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: It is happening again Dia Spriggs wrote in a message to Sue Alexander: > The pneumonia shot is only a vaccine to one of the > common bacteria that cause pneumonia (named Streptococcus > pneumoniae). You may still get pneumonia if you get the DS> I thought vaccines were against virus, not bacteria. I was told DS> that the pneumonia vaccine would only protect against viral DS> pneumonia, not bacterial. Vaccines can be to bacteria as well. It may actually be easier to make a vaccine against a bacterium, as bacteria tend to be more stable in their configuration. Vaccines against bacteria are not as common however, probably due to the fact most infections caused by bacteria can be treated by antibiotics. From what I have seen (I haven't seen actual documentation of the vaccine, just news reports) the pneumonia vaccine is to S pneumo and was developed as pneumonia can be very deadly even with treatment if a person is immunocompromised due to age or disease. Whooping cough is one vaccine against a bacterium that comes readily to mind.... Sue ... Support bacteria--it's the only culture some people have! --- timEd/386 1.10 * Origin: Transylvanian Tap (1:121/45.23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00002Date: 12/13/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 8:00:am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: On Drug Laws Mark..you've been around here long enough to know better than this...don't banter back and forth with insults and who's the better person etc...knock it off.... --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00003Date: 12/13/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 8:35:am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: pulmonary fibrosis Does anyone know anything about this problem? Have a friend who has it and is on 24 hr O2. Wondered if there was anything that might make it a little easier. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00004Date: 12/12/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 07:25am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Pain Management JANE KELLEY was thinking about Pain Management and keyed into cyberspace: JK>MP>In an upcoming article in a medical journal, there will be a JK>MP>report of a new pain treatment for post-polio triggerpoint pain. JK>MP>Electromagnetic fields of a certain strength have been found to JK>MP>alleviate this specific type of pain. JK>MP>Non-invasive, non-chemical (note that I include herbs, etc. in JK>MP>that classification) pain management. JK>Something like the Tenns units which have been used for some time JK>now? The YNS unit is a simple device. No, this is a bit more complicated. When I get more info, I will definitely post it here. Two of my buddies are physiatrists. (Funny thing about them is that they both have the same name, but are not related.) The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00005Date: 12/12/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 07:40am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: On Drug Laws JANE KELLEY was thinking about On Drug Laws and keyed into cyberspace: JK>VF> JK> It is not the legality of any drug which makes it dangerous. JK>Illegal JK>VF>So you have now changed your tune from the original comment which JK>VF>caught my attention. Legality does not make a drug safe or JK>VF>otherwise. JK>Your complete lack of real knowledge in this field combined with a JK>supercilious attitude makes it impossible to carry on any kind of JK>intelligent discourse with you. I'll decode this for anyone who does not know Jane. What Jane says = real knowledge. What you say = supercilious attitude. I hope I have made it clear. JK>Come back after you have the first clue. Jane, weren't you the person who saw the movie "Clueless" and forgot to stay for the end where it said not to make cluelessness you way of life? The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00006Date: 12/12/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 07:45am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Suicides JANE KELLEY was thinking about Suicides and keyed into cyberspace: JK>VF>Some, but not all. Even those that are using mind-altering JK>VF>substances have obviously failed to cope with some nature of human JK>VF>existence with normal, non-destructive methods - and it could be JK>VF>argued that they are thus mentally to begin with. JK>Bullshit. Plain and simple, bullshit. No other way to adequately JK>describe what you've just written above. While I do not agree with your conclusions about the content, there are many ways to describe something you do not agree with: Hogwash. Baloney. Male bovine excreta. That just names three of my favorites. It denotes a total and JK>complete lack of understanding of brain chemistry (and everything JK>else discovered in the past 50 or 60 years of research around the JK>world). Certainly, Jane. JK>Just because our idiots in the "mental health" field say something is JK>true does not make it so. In fact, it is more likely to ensure that JK>it is the last ditch effort of those who are resisting change by JK>refusing to attend the seminars that others have gone to to bring JK>them up to speed. JK>If you had one whit of real knowledge about what you write about so JK>boldly, you would know better than to begin on this tack. JK>Sorry, but I've just lost all interest in correspondence from you. JK>I've tackled the questions you haven't the faintest idea about JK>probably when you were still in diapers. Were you Methusallah's nurse? The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGI00007Date: 12/12/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 07:48am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Maggot Therapy JANE KELLEY was thinking about Maggot Therapy and keyed into cyberspace: JK>MP>Good one, Jane. However, I have never posted to you on the subject JK>MP>of chemical dependency. I have posted to you on ADHD. But that is JK>MP>a different issue. JK>MP>BTW, you are chemically dependent. JK>It has taken you this long to figure that out? Incidently, my last JK>drink was in 1969, been attending meetings of a certain 12th step JK>group ever since, and also have all sorts of professional credentials JK>in my field. Jane, we are all chemically dependent. JK>I also have food allergies so severe that they limit my movement if I JK>am stupid or someone feeds me something that isn't useful for me to JK>eat. Or a doctor who doesn't know any better recommends a topical JK>cream which has pepper as its main ingredient. Know how to prevent people from feeding you things that are not good for you? Keep your mouth shut. Works every time. JK>The intense pain, coupled with advancing age, does tend to result in JK>a marked loss of tolerance. Especially to all "mental health JK>workers" who don't have four pages, doubled spaced, of state, local, JK>and federal laws to adhere to in the practice of their profession. We have noticed that you have a certain lack of tolerance. JK>I no longer allow myself the use of any mind altering substances to JK>dial up a chosen mood. And, you will not allow it in others. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGJ00000Date: 12/14/97 From: TIM ARNOLD Time: 04:45pm \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: It is happening again DS> Mind if I butt in here... much...so I've kept DS> it to about 2 a day, can you help on this? DS> 500 mg 3x a day....if you have mucus running down your throat etc DS> take Fenugreek..it dries up mucus..works really great. DS> This bloody thing is going around...I had a real bad bout of DS> it..took about 4 weeks to stop coughing..now I've got a cold DS> again..this is vicious this year...Iguess we should be taking stuff DS> for our immune systems.. DS> Taking a lot of vitamin C? Also beta carotene protects the mucus DS> membranes and garlic is great for bacterial/viral.. Take a garlic oil (the one with the special coating to stop you burping it back). The odurless garlic has all the good stuff removed (the odour is the chemical that does the virus killing). so one to three or even four capsules a day is good. no more than ten tho coz it thins the blood. vitamin C is not a miracle drug on its own. take it with a multi vitamin or with a mineral supplement (Biospectrum 26 is the best one - its especially good for asthma and arthritis). ... Don't throw your butts in the urinal - they get soggy and hard to light. -*- TurboEDIT v1.11a [MSP96] --- Telegard v3.09.g1 * Origin: The Hawk Inn, Wellington, NZ (3:771/1550) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGJ00001Date: 12/14/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 10:37am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: She's Back MP>To simplify this rather lengthy explanation, you bought an error MP>correcting modem and it would not allow your messages to go through. Not exactly. The modem I purchased literally "came apart" in the hands of the clerk. Prior to that, a friend who is also a sysop spent hours trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She finally dug some sophisticated software out of a dark hole and found out that the modem, just purchased a day or so before, was faulty. AND, a piece of it came off in the clerk's hands when I went in to get my money back. They really couldn't say that it was in great shape! MP>Don't you just love technology? I'm not certain about all this "Progress". --- SLMR 2.1a Hell hath no fury like the attorney of a woman scorned. * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EGJ00002Date: 12/14/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 5:20:am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: On Drug Laws I warned Jane she was being offensive.....we are not here to banter insults back and forth...please stop!! --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68)