--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400004Date: 11/01/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 09:40am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: ADD and ADHD On (29 Oct 97) MARK PROBERT wrote to HARRIET LEVY... MP> HL>My partner is getting incredible results using St. John's Wort for MP> HL>ADD. We'd read something in a mainstream newspaper about some MP> HL>studies being done on just that, seems SJW works on the dopamine MP> HL>receptors, so he decided to try it. What he's found is that he's MP> HL>more able to focus, is less distractable. MP> HL>He's taking 600mg in the morning and 300 at lunch, this seems to MP> work HL>best for him. MP> SJW is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor and has never been MP> shown to affect dopamine receptors. Perhaps you should let the New York Times know this....they seem to have been reporting on a new study that does show SJW affects the dopamine receptors. ... Always remember to pillage BEFORE you burn. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400005Date: 11/01/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 09:43am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Expiration Warning On (28 Oct 97) Dia Spriggs wrote to Mary-Anne Wise... DS> > big time... I'm amazed at the increase in my sensitivity to DS> > things.. although sometimes I regret it.. Occasionally you DS> > run into people with big problems and the effect on a DS> > sensitive person can be... uncomfortable.. DS> > DS> Yup....especially if you find out you're an empath also which is DS> something I've concluded I'm blessed/cursed with. You may even find DS> yourself being in a crowd uncomfortable..too many vibes going DS> on....turning it off is the trick....if possible.. Man, do I relate to this. I remember going into the radiation oncology ward at a major hospital....and freaking out. I went to bring moral support to a friend who was having radiation done, and I hadn't learned how to shield yet. AFter a few minutes in the atmosphere of fear, I had to leave...go outside, and wait for my friend there. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400006Date: 11/01/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 09:46am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: ADD and ADHD On (27 Oct 97) MARK PROBERT wrote to ALEX VASAUSKAS... MP> AV>I have seen at least 70 children weaned of Ritalin. I usually MP> AV>recommend weaning off of Ritalin for a 2-3 week period, while MP> AV>administering the herbs. MP> "Weaning" implies addiction. Prescriptive doses of methylphenidate are MP> not addictive. The pharmaceutical has a serum half life of four hours. MP> The biggest problem that people have is remembering to take their MP> medication. I wonder what the motive of this critter is? Au Contraire. Ritalin is indeed addictive, and a patient must be weaned off of it, so as not to damage the nervous system. The other "danger", if you will, of ritalin usage in children is that it has been noted that there is a higher than average incidence of later "self-medication" with cocaine, crack and methamphetamine (commonly known as speed) --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400007Date: 11/01/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 09:51am \/To: MARY-ANNE WISE (Read 1 times) Subj: Alternative Medicine On (29 Oct 97) Mary-Anne Wise wrote to Harriet Levy... MW> Monday October 27 1997 18:27, Harriet Levy wrote to Dia Spriggs: HL> We're doing a combination of Reiki, done in the conventional mode of HL> daily sessions, with a some TT, Chakra cleansing/balancing and crystal HL> work, combined with visualization and talk. MW> Awesome.. .it sounds like you do similar healing to myself.. I haven't MW> taken Reiki yet, but it's on the list... I do Healing Touch which is MW> TT with chakra cleansing/balancing, aura cleaning and crystal work MW> combined... :) Reiki is amazing work. It's my primary modality in this kind of work. The rest happens after a full Reiki Session. MW> It's great to find someone that has followed a similar path... fun, MW> isn't it? ;-) I was speaking with a friend of mine that started into MW> it, but is changing her direction and said that with all the soul MW> searching and things you have to deal with personally, it's amazing MW> that anyone does this.. ;-) Have you heard of the "wounded healer"? ... Played poker with tarot last night. Got a full house. 5 people died. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400008Date: 11/01/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 09:53am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: On drug laws On (31 Oct 97) Alex Vasauskas wrote to Dia Spriggs... AV> I am trying to abide by your rules. But, it is very difficult not AV> to respond to Jane's political and prohibition oriented posts as they AV> are based upon a distorted view relying upon falsehoods and AV> half-truths. Such posts demand opposition just to clear the air AV> and to let anyone who might be influenced by her know that her AV> political agenda is pernicious to personal freedom and responsibility, AV> and to provide an evaluation of the issues she raises based upon AV> credible facts and critical reason. Those of us who have been around on fido for a long time have learned that it's impossible to change Jane's mind, once it's made up. In all the years I've been moderating echoes, I've only had to cut one feed. Guess who's? Because the person in question refused to stay on topic, and argued publicly with me about it. ... Starfleet Security---the few, the proud, the expendable. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400009Date: 11/03/97 From: DAVID NASH Time: 08:00am \/To: SHARON MCCORMICK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Melatonin S> DN> S> I take one tablet at bedtime. 200mcg. S> DN> S> DN> 200? I use half that amount. In reading on melatonin, the suggested se S> DN> is to use smallest amount. If I take 200, I am spacey and listless for S> DN> 1-3 hours after awakining. However, when I had a toothace, 2 worked or S> DN> sleep. Oh, the melatonin I take also has valerian root{ natural alium} S> DN> so that makes a difference. I found that for me, the combination works S> DN> better that just melatonin alone! S> S> I've never had a problem feeling "hung over" in the morning from the S> melatonin. But your suggestion is well taken, and I'll try cutting it S> in half to see if it is just as effective! The smallest dosage that works should be used, according to what I have read and heard from herbalists. I found half works well. Also, if by a rare occurrance it is a stressless day, I use 1/3. --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400010Date: 11/03/97 From: DAVID NASH Time: 08:02am \/To: MEG UMANS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Melatonin MU> -> S> I take one tablet at bedtime. 200mcg. MU> -> MU> -> 200? I use half that amount. In reading on melatonin, the suggested MU> -> use is to use smallest amount. If I take 200, I am spacey and MU> -> listless for MU> MU> Yes, and a similar guideline I read is that the most useful amount MU> increases with increasing age. They suggested: under age 50, 1 mg; age MU> 50-65, 2 mg; over age 65, 3 mg. MU> MU> --- PCBoard (R) v15.23 (OS/2) 5 MU> * Origin: Exeter's Place * Gilbert, AZ * (1:114/449) Had not heard that! Thanks. May be quite true as I am younger than a person I know who uses more than I. Think I will look into that! --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400011Date: 11/03/97 From: DAVID NASH Time: 08:07am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Melatonin & Valerian AV> smells rank -- like really dirty, sweaty, long-unwashed, kept-in- AV> a-moldy-shoe feet. The ancient Greeks called it "phu" because this AV> was what people said when they smelled it :-) AV> AV> AV> I don't know anything about melatonin. I have no personal experience AV> with it and I don't know anyone who uses it. I found the following AV> info about it, but I don't know how accurate it is. AV> Anyway, FWIW: AV> AV> AV> ===BEGIN AV> from Paul Bergner (bergner@concentric.net), Editor, AV> http://www.concentric.net/~bergner/MHHOME.HTM AV> Medical Herbalism: AV> AV> I'm not surprised that melatonin is gone in Canada, and I predict that AV> it will go the way of DHEA here in the U.S. -- meaning that it will be AV> a prescription-only controlled item, treated like opiates. AV> AV> I've just researched and written a lengthy article about melatonin, AV> and frankly I am shocked that natural healers would use this substance AV> casually like a sleeping pill. Melatonin is a powerful hormone that AV> affects the entire metabolic cycle, not just the sleep- wake cycle. We AV> rail against hormone-replacement therapy with estrogen- progresterone, AV> and then casually offer patients enough melatonin to raise blood levels AV> 10-20 times their normal levels. This is bound to be a Devil's bargain, AV> and it is only a matter of time till regulatory agencies throughout the AV> world discover this and rightfully take measures to protect the public. AV> AV> For instance: melatonin production by the pineal gland appears to be AV> an important part of the aging clock. The pineal glands of young mice, AV> transplanted to old mice, make the old mice "younger" and they AV> live about 1/3 longer. On the other hand, the pineal glands of older AV> mice, transplanted into younger mice, immediately makes them "older" AV> and they live about 1/3 shorter lives. AV> AV> So what happens when some guy named Joe in Iowa takes ten mg of AV> melatonin (about twenty times what you need to achieve normal blood AV> level peaks) to sleep most nights for three years (this is actually AV> happening all over the place today) and then can't get the melatonin? AV> Will his pineal have lost its ability to produce the same levels as AV> previously? Most hormones have a negative feedback loop of one sort AV> or another -- would levels that high reduce endogenous production AV> over time? Will poor Joe then age ten years over the next few months? AV> AV> I think melatonin has a proper place in natural medicine, in the AV> treatment or palliation of cancer, used for brief periods for jet AV> lag, and possible for the elderly, and may be a few more uses. But AV> IMO over-the-counter status is inviting health disaster. AV> ====END Oop. Meant to save more. Have not been 'messaging' much lately and forgot how to pick out quotes. Anyway, first bad thing I have heard yet about melatonin. I will look into same! I have found that a melatonin valerian mixture works better for me than just melatonin....hmmmmm...think I will try valerian alone. --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400012Date: 11/03/97 From: DAVID NASH Time: 08:09am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: On drug laws DS> I'm sure you're a very nice person, David. LEt's not start another round DS> fighting. You said you would accept another post from Jane. No, I think DS> not..we're not going to start up again. People that you don't want to ea DS> from, read their posts, etc. don't read them. You know it's really hard DS> upset over things you don't read and it's hard to fight with someone who DS> answer you. It gets really boring if you just sit and talk to yourself. DS> DS> --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 DS> * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) Makes sense! P.S. Sometimes I have to talk to myself, at times there is no one else intelligent enough to talk to . But true, as they say, it takes 2 to Tango! --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EF400013Date: 11/03/97 From: SHARON MCCORMICK Time: 10:43am \/To: MEG UMANS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Melatonin MU> Yes, and a similar guideline I read is that the most useful amount MU> increases with increasing age. They suggested: under age 50, 1 mg; age MU> 50-65, 2 mg; over age 65, 3 mg. Then I am taking the correct dosage, I'm in the 50-65 range. --- GAPNet Enhanced * Origin: QUACKERS BBS - Cleveland, Ohio (1:157/443.0)