--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00003Date: 10/26/97 From: ALEX VASAUSKAS Time: 08:48am \/To: DAVID NASH (Read 1 times) Subj: Headache David Nash wrote in a message to Jane Kelley: [...] Well said ;-) DN> P.S. Anyone know of a natural unbanned method of headache DN> relief? There are different headaches with different causes. People at various times have considered the following herbs or combinations of them to provide headache relief: cayenne, cinnamon, ginger, cardamom, valerian, ginkgo leaf, peppermint, scullcap, pueraria, chrysanthemum, feverfew, white willow bark (the original source of aspirin), and lavender. The most effective individual herb of the lot for the generic headache is probably lavender (Lavandula officinalis). The prescription according to _The Backyard Medicine Chest_ by Douglas Schar for using lavender is: "Add two teaspoons dried flowers to one cup boiling water, remove from heat, let stand ten minutes, and strain. Drink as many cups as it takes for the headache to go away." --- * Origin: 61 deg. 25' N / 149 deg. 40' W (1:17/75) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00004Date: 10/26/97 From: ALEX VASAUSKAS Time: 09:28am \/To: BOB MORGAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Cold & flu remedies Bob Morgan wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas: AV> I and others I know who have tried it have found that taking echinacea AV> and garlic when you feel the first hint of a cold or the flu helps to AV> avoid the cold or flu, or at least substantially decrease the AV> severity of the disease. BM> We use the same combination and it has worked well for us too. BM> The good thing about garlic is that it strenghthens your immune BM> system whereas antibiotics weaken it. In the 80's I had chronic BM> bronchitis and strep throat. I'd take a round of Cephalexin then BM> six weeks later get it again. It was a vicious and expensive BM> cycle until I had had enough and decided to try the garlic and it BM> broke the cycle. I haven't had bronchitis since. I've had strep BM> throat maybe once because the kids bring it home from school but BM> extra garlic took care of it. I use this on my kids too. I got BM> the diagnosis from the Dr and chose the garlic, echinacea and BM> pycnogenol (I believe) and she was better in two days. That's my BM> experience. There is one other major herb I forgot to mention for conditions involving respiratory weakness or infection. It is elecampane (Inula helenium). It is useful as a tonic to take during the times of year (or even all year) when you may be inclined to get respiratory problems (it also strengthens the rest of the body against disease), or as your treatment or part of your treatment if you do get a condition involving respiratory effects. The root is the part that is used. For the common cold and the flu in general, boneset (Eupatorium perfoliatum) is right up there with echinacea and garlic, either alone or in combination with the others. --- * Origin: 61 deg. 25' N / 149 deg. 40' W (1:17/75) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00005Date: 10/27/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 02:22pm \/To: ANN YOUNG (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: cloning? > Did anyone watch the new's about tis scientist who's cloning > tadpole's headless one's at that so in the future to clone sick puppy..... --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00006Date: 10/27/97 From: GAYLE LICARI Time: 09:29pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Ginseng/Pesticides This pass month an article appeared in our local paper concerning growers of Ginseng using pesticides in Wisconsin or Michigan. Is this a widespread practice???? I have used Ginseng in the past but could not tolerate it. Shoulder aches and pains. In retrospect, I am wondering if it might be the pesticide and not the ginseng---Just curious if others have heard or read about this practice. Should be past not pass////excuse my spelling. Gayle W. Licari --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Library COM -* Reno, NV USA *- (702) 785-4191 (1:213/742) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00007Date: 10/27/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 06:17pm \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Alternative Medicine On (25 Oct 97) Alex Vasauskas wrote to Harriet Levy... AV> Harriet Levy wrote in a message to All: HL> endearing, I haven't been able to stop myself from loving her, HL> dearly. My western trained mind tells me that I can't become HL> emotionally connected to my clients/ patients, and retain HL> professional detachment. AV> I assume that you have a question because you want to express your AV> feelings and open the possibility of more than a sympathetic AV> treatment-giver/treatment receiver relationship. The work I do is spiritual and energy based. I've worked hard in my own life to remove the separation of mind and body and spirit...and the healing work that I do reflects that. The dilemma, as I see it, is not the question of expressing my feelings, or opening the possibility of more of a relationship, but the conflict I feel in even "feeling" or thinking anything other than "this is a business relationship". AV> Maybe the issue of professional detachment is related to AV> professional effectiveness. It may become more difficult to do the AV> best thing for the client when you are deeply emotionally attached. I'm not sure this is an issue with the work I do. Also, I'm not sure that it's not. AV> There may be more benefits than detriments. But, the problem is AV> being able to recognize what is going on when you are personally AV> involved. You would do well to talk to other professionals AV> knowledgable in ethics in other health fields to at least become AV> aware of the concerns underlying personal involvement with clients. AV> It would be very helpful to read up on transference, and possibly AV> talk to a psychological counselor to explore the question of AV> transference in this relationship. Thanks for that advice. I've done a lot of studying about transference, and had put myself into a "supervision" relationship with another healer, as soon as I took this client on, to guard against that. One of the things I'm questioning, however, is has the medical and health care professions gone too far in the other direction? ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00008Date: 10/27/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 06:24pm \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: ADD and ADHD On (25 Oct 97) Alex Vasauskas wrote to All... AV> Craig Loewen wrote in a message to All: CL> Has anyone here had any success in using herbs to treat CL> attention-deficit disorder (ADD) and ADD with hyperactivity (ADDH)? CL> I would be especially interested for any anecdotal evidence dealing CL> with treating adults who struggle with the syndrome. My partner is getting incredible results using St. John's Wort for ADD. We'd read something in a mainstream newspaper about some studies being done on just that, seems SJW works on the dopamine receptors, so he decided to try it. What he's found is that he's more able to focus, is less distractable. He's taking 600mg in the morning and 300 at lunch, this seems to work best for him. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00009Date: 10/27/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 06:27pm \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Alternative Medicine On (25 Oct 97) Dia Spriggs wrote to Harriet Levy... DS> > Medicine. That there's so much professional detachment, DS> > that there's no DS> > room left for the healing power of love. DS> I think the problem here is that you might be using YOUR energy DS> instead of bringing it in if you feel that much compassion for this DS> person which will do neither of you any good. Compassion, love is DS> great..very powerful but directed healing energy doesn't come FROM us DS> internally. If you can stay detached to that point where you allow the DS> energy to go THRU you and just direct it you'll be fine. If your DS> concern and compassion interrupt that flow where you as putting YOUR DS> energy into it, you're both in trouble... That hasn't been a problem. As I think I said, I'm running into a mental dilemma, training vs. intuition. As a practitioner, I'm a clear and open channel for the Source. In many conversations, I think I've come to a comfortable balance between allowing my compassion to be present, and not being attached to the results". If that's detachment, great. If not, well, it seems to be working. It feels like there's a lot on the line, here. The patient is 19 years old, HIV+, cranial (non-HIV) lymphoma, and 5 months pregnant...so the possibility of conventional chemotherapy or radiation for the lymphoma is not an option. We're doing a combination of Reiki, done in the conventional mode of daily sessions, with a some TT, Chakra cleansing/balancing and crystal work, combined with visualization and talk. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEX00010Date: 10/27/97 From: HARRIET LEVY Time: 06:32pm \/To: SUE ALEXANDER (Read 1 times) Subj: Alternative Medicine On (26 Oct 97) Sue Alexander wrote to Harriet Levy... SA> Harriet Levy wrote in a message to All: HL> What I've started wondering about is maybe that's what's wrong with HL> Western Medicine. That there's so much professional detachment, HL> that there's no room left for the healing power of love. SA> I have found that there are a couple of factors involved with SA> finding a "good" doctor. The most basic factor is whether or not this SA> person seems to care about what happens to you as a person...which can SA> be directly related to what you are saying here. However, there are SA> also other factors involved, such as really listening to what is going SA> wrong or right, giving the benefit of the doubt when someone says SA> "this is wrong" or "this is working" even though it does not follow SA> with "the way things should be", and being confident enough to say SA> "this does not follow the textbook, but I think it could be _______, SA> so I am going to check it out further". Yes. I totally agree with you, and this has been my experience with many MD's, althoug not with the alternative healers I've worked with. You're right. Many doctors don't really listen, and are not willing to admit when they've either made a mistake or just plain "don't know". SA> The biggest problem I see with new doctors (I work in a hospital) SA> is that they rely way too much on numbers and test results when the SA> answer could be staring them in the face. Perhaps it is too much SA> detachment, perhaps it is the fact that logic and caring on this level SA> cannot be taught to everyone, perhaps it is the teaching process SA> itself (which is one thing I strongly suspect). I don't know. Then again, it might not be something that can be taught. SA> Unfortunately, caring too much can be as much of a trap as caring SA> too little. The biggest problem in caring too much is that all care SA> eventually comes to a point where nothing more can be done. If a SA> practitioner goes through these kinds of losses every day or every SA> week with people they have come to love, the practitioner burns out SA> emotionally and can be damaged. Perhaps a balance point needs to be SA> found... I think the balance is to not give up caring, but not to be attached to the results. It's in thinking that any human being can know the true path for another, that trouble happens. My client/patient, who I talked about might be done with this lifetime. She might not. At this point, she doesn't think so, and we do talk about that possibility. She still wants to live...for a long time. That may change. My challenge is to stay away from thinking I know what is best for her. ... Things that make you go hmmm....... --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: The Hawk's Nest (1:2604/539.40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEY00000Date: 10/27/97 From: ALEX VASAUSKAS Time: 09:35am \/To: GAYLE LICARI (Read 1 times) Subj: Don quai Gayle Licari wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas: GL> I have been on Dong Quai for 3 months now. You did not mention it GL> helps with the eyes too. It does not seem to be known as an herb having a particular benefit for the eyes. In what way has it benefited your eyes? Maybe this effect is an ancillary benefit of something else that the herb is doing for you. GL> Do you know if there could be an interaction with Dong Quai and St. GL> John's Wort? I haven't heard or read of this one way or the other. GL> I can't tolerate Ginseng. It causes pain in my left shoulder but I GL> have not experience this with Dong Quai. Maybe ginseng is too stimulating for you, or it may be the species. According to the Chinese approach, Chinese and Korean ginsengs are relatively "warm" while American ginseng is relatively cool. These may be things to consider if you are still interested in experimenting with ginseng. Interestingly, dong quai (archangelica sinensis) is also called "ginseng for women", although its use is not limited to women. GL> Although I have to watch GL> the brand I buy because I can tell a differenc. The difference between brands is not surprising. They probably have different sources for the herb and the potency and mix of constituents of the herb could be affected by different growing and/or harvesting and/or processing conditions at the different sources. My first preference is home grown herbs for the ones it is practical to grow -- this way I can be assured at least of consistent conditions, standardized and optimum processing, and freshness. If you find that you are using alot of a particular herb, you might consider planting a plot of it. --- * Origin: 61 deg. 25' N / 149 deg. 40' W (1:17/75) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EEY00001Date: 10/28/97 From: BOB MORGAN Time: 08:21am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Cold & flu remedies While doing the Macarena Alex Vasauskas said to Bob Morgan: AV> There is one other major herb I forgot to mention for conditions AV> involving respiratory weakness or infection. It is elecampane AV> (Inula helenium). It is useful as a tonic to take during the times AV> of year (or even all year) when you may be inclined to get AV> respiratory problems (it also strengthens the rest of the body AV> against disease), or as your treatment or part of your treatment AV> if you do get a condition involving respiratory effects. The root AV> is the part that is used. AV> For the common cold and the flu in general, boneset (Eupatorium AV> perfoliatum) is right up there with echinacea and garlic, either AV> alone or in combination with the others. Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard of this. I'll look for both of them. Bob ... 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