--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00002Date: 09/28/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 07:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: SUN I heard on Healthcast (a local news segment) that ultraviolet rays of the sun not only do skin damage but also penetrate the skins layers and can affect the cells of the blood causing blood disorders and perhaps leukemia. Sunscreen doesn't stop the sun from affecting the blood. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00003Date: 09/27/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 07:20am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Lack of repect Our Conference,or moderator, has asked that the marijuana diatribes end. If this was any other conference in FIDO, the CH would have cut your feeds by now. However, your behavior is instructive of a significant of a goodly percentage of the proponents of alternative treatment: you think you are right, and can ignore conventional standards. One of the reasons why your ideas will never be accepted. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00004Date: 09/27/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 03:24pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Senseless death I remember some posts over the past several years decrying mandated vaccinations. This is the natural consequence of making the pertussis vaccination optional. The following information was obtained this morning by email from a friend of mine from the Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare: Our current immunization coverage is running about 61% overall, but since state law makes pertussis coverage optional, the figure for pertussis coverage is lower yet. IOW a child entering day care or public schools will be considered fully immunized with only the DT component, without ever having received pertussis immunization. Further, the 'mandate' is very loose, anyone can claim an exemption with little difficulty. Consequently, for a number of years Idaho has been running last in the nation in immunization coverage. And we are experiencing first hand the consequences of that situation. The infant in question was a 7 week old male infant in a day care. The child became progressively more ill during the day. The mother was called and by the time she arrived at the day care the infant had died. The coroner diagnosed pertussis by TFA testing (but not by culture). It is important to note that the infant had * NOT * yet started any immunizations (but had been scheduled for the following week). Presently, Idaho lags the nation in pertussis coverage, and leads it in pertussis incidence by a wide margin. PERTUSSIS INCIDENCE RATE: Idaho vs. USA (per 100/000) 1994 1995 1996 1997(to date) Idaho 15.2 9.97 9.7 55 (est.) USA 1.8 1.8 2.94 Idaho Cases of Pertussis: 1995 1996 1997 116 115 470 (to date) Thus, while pertussis tends to have periodic swings in incidence in both vaccinated and unvaccinated children, it is clear from our own experience that the swings in unvaccinated children are hugely greater. We are in the middle of a major upsurge in pertussis cases with a large number of hospitalizations and complications, entirely due to our abysmally poor immunization coverage. For those still harboring the delusion that there's 'no evidence vaccination reduces disease' are invited to Idaho to see for themselves what a lack of immunization produces. While in any given year our pertussis incidence will be 5 times the national average, this year it will likely be * 25 times * the national average! My comments: (my friends-Mark) The issue of 'mandates' is certainly a problematic one. To what extent does society have the right to protect us from our own foolishness? Idaho state repealed a motorcycle helmet law, but neighboring states require helmets. Is this permissable? We have a seat belt law(only 50% compliance), is this permissable? At least here in Idaho, the penalties and hassles for not wearing a seat belt are much greater and more severe than for not getting immunized. Thus the huff and fluff over vaccination 'mandates' is, at least here, an exaggerated 'tempest in a teapot.' The 'mandate' is so readily circumvented that it basically amounts to little more than a strong suggestion. Even so, in the struggle between individual rights and the rights of society to protect the common welfare, the health of one individual reflects on the health of all. No man(or child) is an island, and it is a sad 'half-truth' to presume otherwise. The Few. The Proud. The Chosen. markprobe@aol.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00005Date: 09/29/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 09:26pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: info I heard something on TV tonight I wondered if you had heard about. Alpha Lipolinic (I think) acid. It is supposed to be THE strongest antioxidant and helps the other ones like C, E, A work more effectively. The body produces small amounts of it but taking the supplements have been linked to lessened risk of stroke or heart attack. Anyone have any info? --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00006Date: 09/28/97 From: WAYNE ROZNAK Time: 10:12pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Itching Hello All! Any anti-itch home remedies. I seem to have an allergy the doctors have yet to find the cause. Anyway, the areas seems to concetrate at the joints in my hand and itch terribly at times. Store bought creams have been of little help. Thanks Wayne --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: ----> Knight Side BBS, Miami, FL 305-354-2223 <---- (1:135/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00007Date: 09/28/97 From: WAYNE ROZNAK Time: 10:16pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Itching Hello All! I have some sort of allergy that the doctors are still trying to determine the cause. The itching concentrates around the joints of my hands. Store bought creams have been of little help. Any home remedies out there? Thanks Wayne --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: ----> Knight Side BBS, Miami, FL 305-354-2223 <---- (1:135/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00008Date: 09/29/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:27am \/To: WAYNE ROZNAK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Itching > > Any anti-itch home remedies. I seem to have an allergy the > doctors have Does it appear as a skin eruption or just on the inside? Oatmeal baths stop itching of things like chicken pox and poison ivy which is pretty itchy...tea tree oil might help if it's fungal in nature..if it's inflammatory try bromelain...500 mg 3x a day on a EMPTY stomach.. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EDZ00009Date: 09/29/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:28am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Marijuana as medicine > Thanks. I am sick and tired of seeing the praises of > marijuna in > one post after another from those who havne't the first clue I've asked you and everyone else to STOP this thread. IMMEDIATELY. You seem to be the only one that insists on keeping it going. I and every one else are sick and tired of hearing about the subject PERIOD..Please do NOT post on it again.. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EE100000Date: 09/30/97 From: PAUL MICHAELSON Time: 11:08am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: info DIA SPRIGGS, DS> I heard something on TV tonight I wondered if you had heard about. DS> Alpha DS> Lipolinic (I think) acid. It is supposed to be THE strongest DS> antioxidant and DS> helps the other ones like C, E, A work more effectively. The body DS> produces DS> small amounts of it but taking the supplements have been linked to DS> lessened risk of stroke or heart attack. DS> DS> Anyone have any info? I think you must mean Alpha Lipoic Acid. It is an antioxidant that is soluble in both water and fat, so it can go to both kinds of places in the body. I don't think it is the strongest antioxidant but it is supposed to help some other ones be more effective. All the mail-order supplement vendors that I know of carry it. Take care. Paul * OFFLINE 1.58 * A school: Building with four walls and tomorrow inside. --- ProBoard v2.10 [Reg] * Origin: * The CoFFee Clutch * Grinding Daily! * (1:267/162) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EE100001Date: 09/30/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:33am \/To: WAYNE ROZNAK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Itching -=> Quoting Dia Spriggs to Wayne Roznak <=- > > Any anti-itch home remedies. I seem to have an allergy the > doctors have DS> DS> DS> Does it appear as a skin eruption or just on the inside? Oatmeal DS> baths stop itching of things like chicken pox and poison ivy which is DS> pretty itchy...tea tree oil might help if it's fungal in nature..if DS> it's inflammatory try bromelain...500 mg 3x a day on a EMPTY stomach.. Wayne, you may want to make that bromelain + queretin. This combo is available from mail order vitamin wholesalers. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454)