--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECZ00006Date: 08/29/97 From: ALEX VASAUSKAS Time: 08:59am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: 2 Medical Marijuana selling non-sterilized marijuana seeds. Clay admitted during the trial that he was on a campaign to change the marijuana laws when arrested. He will be sentenced on criminal possession and trafficking charges on September 5. Although agreeing with Clay that marijuana is relatively harmless and does not cause criminal behavior, Justice John McCart ruled that elected politicians -- not the courts -- must lead the way in establishing public policy on such issues. McCart did admit, "The national governments of Canada and the United States appear to be somewhat out of step with most of the western world [in regards to their marijuana laws.]" For more information, please contact attorney Paul Burstein @ (416) 204-1825 or visit the Hemp Nation website at: www.hempnation.com. -END- MORE THAN 10 MILLION MARIJUANA ARRESTS SINCE 1965 . . . ANOTHER EVERY 54 SECONDS! --- * Origin: 61 deg. 25' N / 149 deg. 40' W (1:17/75) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00000Date: 08/29/97 From: MAHA ABUMAHA ABU Time: 12:38am \/To: STUART PATTON (Read 1 times) Subj: General/Dataflex Hi Stuart, Hope you are keeping well (And your family too). Have tried the dataflex with "Bitcom" and it seems to work O.K. but the voice messages (Incoming) echoes wildly for about the first second or two, then works fine. I got a strange message from you via e-mail the other day, it was only two characters and that was it :8) I don't know whether you managed to find the other software or not but if you posted it, it didn't get here ! not to worry. I have also used winfax with the dataflex with no problems, My main thing is the voice side of it. everything else is fine. Had occasion to install some software on a mates machine the other day, (MEMPHIS), the beta version. My advice at the moment is if you get it offered, WAIT FOR THE FULL VERSION. (Windows 98 ?) :=))))) We had to scrap it and reinstall 6.22 / 95 combination. Don't ask where he got it, I don't even want to know... We (3 of us) have also had problems with a programe called "First Aid" for windows 95, a m8 ran it in conjunction with crashguard and guess what... some how EVERY FILE AND DIRECTORY/FOLDER ON THE SYSTEM became stamped with the bios's first date (??-??-81) caused mucho knashing of teeth, so BE CAREFULL !!!! Stay Lucky B.f.n. ABU. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: -= The Eclipse BBS - KuH, England - 01482472956 =- (2:2502/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00001Date: 08/29/97 From: MAHA ABUMAHA ABU Time: 12:42am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: last message Sorry Folks , somehow got wrong area for off topic message to Stuart. Must stop doing this when I have had "Medication" :)) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: -= The Eclipse BBS - KuH, England - 01482472956 =- (2:2502/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00002Date: 08/30/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 09:09am \/To: BRENDA LEE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: need help lemme ask around and see..I'm in Miami.....will get back to you... --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00003Date: 08/30/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 09:18am \/To: BRENDA LEE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: need help Here's a couple numbers..from there there's usually lists of others.. all area code 941- 455-6390 352-9742 598-4141 434-3028 --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00004Date: 08/31/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 12:55am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 5 Discourses On The E -=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- MP> One of the rules is that there should be no advertising in the MP> alt.support.XXXXXX hierarchy. I am in one regularly. Advertisers are MP> roasted. Spammers are turned into crispy critters. Mark --> In ref to spammers, is there any way to change one's name and/or address to defeat the spammers? ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00005Date: 08/29/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 10:51pm \/To: GEORGE LAGERGREN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: FDA/CODEX alert GEORGE LAGERGREN was thinking about Re: FDA/CODEX alert and keyed into cyberspace: GL>-=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- GL> MP> GEORGE LAGERGREN was thinking about Re: FDA/CODEX alert and GL> MP> keyed into cyberspace: GL> GL> GL> FS> S.830, the FDA Modernization and Accountability Act of 1997 GL> GL> FS> is hazardus to your health and must be stopped, heres why: GL> GL> GL> FS> -S. 830 tells the FDA to HARMONIZE America's food and drug GL> GL> FS> law to the laws of the European Union. (The EU treats GL> GL> FS> vitamins, minerals, and botanicals as DRUGS ans is planning GL> GL> FS> on making its regulatory structure even worse in the GL> GL> FS> future.) So what they are really talking about is making our GL> GL> FS> laws match theirs. The FDA is bad enough. The EU system is GL> GL> FS> even WORSE. -S.830 gives a single manufacturer the right to GL> GL> FS> turn a dietary supplement into a drug. GL> GL> MP> Gotta give him [Senator Hatch] another chance to vote GL>unethically. GL> Mark --> The real point here is that the big bio-chemical GL> medicine [drug] companies want to drive the smaller natural GL> medicine companies out of business by using an international GL> treaty to do it. Then by having nations agree to abide by GL> the international treaty. GL> It is the old ploy of the bigger companies in any industry GL> trying to drive out the smaller companies. But in this GL> case, the big boys are using an international treaty to GL> accomplish their dirty work. [Maybe, the first case???] GL> So Senator Hatch (R-UT) would be doing right to stand up GL> to the international drug companies who would put natural GL> medicine companies out of business. Remember, several GL> companies which manufacture herbs in the State of Utah GL> would be affected. the real point is that if the pharmaceutical companies had a Senator in their pocket because that Senator owned a share of a business, the herbals would be whining and screaming all over the place. However, because he is on the side of herbals (natural chemicals good) against the pharmaceuticals (artificial chemicals evil) you do not mind if his ethics stink. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC^00006Date: 08/29/97 From: BILL SPANGLER Time: 11:21pm \/To: GEORGE LAGERGREN (Read 1 times) Subj: Pharmacutical company George Lagergren, In a message on 28 August, to Mark Probert, wrote : GL> people should be aware that big international firms want to GL> use an INTERNATIONAL TREATY to drive smaller companies out of GL> business. And ALSO so they can charge 3rd world country farmers for growing potatoes. > ~~~~ Bill Spangler ... * ATP/qwk 1.42 * "He's a potato Jim!, Let's gouge out all of his eyes" --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: Lava Lamp -*- Gettysburg PA 717 337 2222 (1:2700/119) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ED100000Date: 08/31/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 12:43pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: FDA/CODEX alert -=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- GL> So Senator Hatch (R-UT) would be doing right to stand up GL> to the international drug companies who would put natural GL> medicine companies out of business. Remember, several GL> companies which manufacture herbs in the State of Utah GL> would be affected. MP> the real point is that if the pharmaceutical companies had a Senator MP> in their pocket because that Senator owned a share of a business, the MP> herbals would be whining and screaming all over the place. MP> However, because he is on the side of herbals (natural chemicals good) MP> against the pharmaceuticals (artificial chemicals evil) you do not MP> mind if his ethics stink. Mark --> I guess if there were several big pharmaceutical companies located in the State of Utah, the politicans would be protective of them. Conflict of interest laws apparently do not apply to members of Congress. Members can own common stock in companies where legislation in their committee could affect a particular industry. But my real point is that BIG companies in a particular industry have now discovered that they can use [or try to use] an INTERNATIONAL TREATY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ to force SMALL companies in an opposition industry out of business. Just think of the implications in the future where all industries could use an INTERNATIONAL TREATY to try to get their way. History Fact: In the 1950s during the Eisenhower era, there was a movement in Congress to pass a constitutional amendment which said that if the Congress approves a treaty which contains a provision which goes AGAINST any provision in the Constitution, then that treaty provision is null and void. The Eisenhower administration opposed it and the effort failed. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ED100001Date: 08/31/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 12:43pm \/To: BILL SPANGLER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Pharmacutical company -=> Quoting Bill Spangler to George Lagergren <=- BS> George Lagergren, In a message on 28 August, to Mark Probert, BS> wrote : GL> people should be aware that big international firms want to GL> use an INTERNATIONAL TREATY to drive smaller companies out of GL> business. BS> And ALSO so they can charge 3rd world country farmers for growing BS> potatoes. > ~~~~ Bill -->Correct. GATT and the WTO want to have grain seed companies get royalities on seed designs. The "dirt poor" farmers in 3rd world countries say they can NOT afford to pay the seed companies this royality money. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454)