--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00000Date: 08/28/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 01:07pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: 5 Discourses On The End T -=> Quoting Mark Probert to Jane Kelley <=- MP> JANE KELLEY was thinking about 5 Discourses On The End T and keyed MP> into cyberspace: >Send Orders Reveled by GOD to his son Daniel. JK>DK>ACNOS-EPU with payment Foreward to discourse. JK>DK>4738 Golden Valley Dr. Cash\M.O. JK>DK>---------------------------------------> Imperial, MO. 63052 JK>DK> To: 5 Discourses on JK>DK> PROTECTED SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT and GROWTH in the END TIMES. JK>I resent tuning into this conference and finding this blatant JK>commercial ad for psuedo religious tripe. MP> Amen, Jane, Amen. Jane & Mark --> For people who want to see commerical ads, they should visit Internet USENET news groups. I do not know whether these I-net news groups have moderators or not. Maybe anything goes with these I-net news groups conferences. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00001Date: 08/28/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 01:07pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: FDA/CODEX alert -=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- MP> GEORGE LAGERGREN was thinking about Re: FDA/CODEX alert and keyed MP> into cyberspace: GL> FS> S.830, the FDA Modernization and Accountability Act of 1997 is GL> FS> hazardus to your health and must be stopped, heres why: GL> FS> -S. 830 tells the FDA to HARMONIZE America's food and drug law GL> FS> to the laws of the European Union. (The EU treats vitamins, GL> FS> minerals, and botanicals as DRUGS ans is planning on making its GL> FS> regulatory structure even worse in the future.) So what they are GL> FS> really talking about is making our laws match theirs. The FDA is GL> FS> bad enough. The EU system is even WORSE. GL> FS> -S.830 gives a single manufacturer the right to turn a dietary GL> FS> supplement into a drug. MP> Gotta give him [Senator Hatch] another chance to vote unethically. Mark --> The real point here is that the big bio-chemical medicine [drug] companies want to drive the smaller natural medicine companies out of business by using an international treaty to do it. Then by having nations agree to abide by the international treaty. It is the old ploy of the bigger companies in any industry trying to drive out the smaller companies. But in this case, the big boys are using an international treaty to accomplish their dirty work. [Maybe, the first case???] So Senator Hatch (R-UT) would be doing right to stand up to the international drug companies who would put natural medicine companies out of business. Remember, several companies which manufacture herbs in the State of Utah would be affected. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00002Date: 08/28/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 01:07pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Pharmacutical company -=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- MP> GEORGE LAGERGREN was thinking about Re: Pharmacutical company and MP> keyed into cyberspace: GL>-=> Quoting Mark Probert to George Lagergren <=- GL> GL> Mark --> The FDA and the international pharmacutical GL> GL> companies want to regulate vitamins and herbs so a GL> GL> doctor's okay would be necessary to obtain them. They are GL> GL> also trying to use international treaties as a means to GL> GL> accomplish this. GL> GL> MP> Don;t worry, there is a Senator that the weeds and pills GL> MP> industry has bought and paid for: Orrin Hatch. He owns part of GL> MP> one of the companies, and votes and lobbies accordingly. GL> Mark --> Good for Senator Hatch (R-UT). Senator Hatch takes GL> dietary supplements. There are several companies which market GL> herbal supplements located in the State of Utah. MP> So, you approve of unethical behavior when it furthers your MP> """principals""". Mark --> The point here, as stated in previous posts, is that people should be aware that big international firms want to use an INTERNATIONAL TREATY to drive smaller companies out of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ business. And if a Senator can prevent that from happening, he should his power to prevent it from happening. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00003Date: 08/27/97 From: BRENDA LEE Time: 09:55pm \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: need help DS--- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) Dia I am sorry to interrupt the thread over here, but don't know where else to post this, I have a friend that lives in Naples, Florida and is has just moved there a few months ago, and she is looking for a board to log on in her area, and noticing that your post is coming from Florida, thought that maybe you could be of help to me......thank you.... ... QMPro 1.52 I'm in bad company...thay's why I'm having fun.... --- Whats NEXT SB&)$N * Origin: The Scrap Bin, Hampton, VA (757)825-9502, 9503 (1:271/320) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00004Date: 08/26/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 04:45pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: 5 Discourses On The End T JANE KELLEY was thinking about 5 Discourses On The End T and keyed into cyberspace: JK>DK>Send Orders Reveled by GOD to his son Daniel. JK>DK>ACNOS-EPU with payment Foreward to discourse. JK>DK>4738 Golden Valley Dr. Cash\M.O. JK>DK>---------------------------------------> Imperial, MO. 63052 JK>DK> To: 5 Discourses on JK>DK> PROTECTED SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT and GROWTH in the END TIMES. JK>I resent tuning into this conference and finding this blatant JK>commercial ad for psuedo religious tripe. Amen, Jane, Amen. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00005Date: 08/26/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 04:46pm \/To: GEORGE LAGERGREN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: FDA/CODEX alert GEORGE LAGERGREN was thinking about Re: FDA/CODEX alert and keyed into cyberspace: GL>-=> Quoting Frank Starr to All <=- GL> FS> WHY S.830 IS SO DANGEROUS: GL> FS> S.830, the FDA Modernization and Accountability Act of 1997 is GL> FS> hazardus to your health and must be stopped, heres why: GL> FS> -S. 830 tells the FDA to HARMONIZE America's food and drug law GL> FS> to the laws of the European Union. (The EU treats vitamins, GL> FS> minerals, and botanicals as DRUGS ans is planning on making its GL> FS> regulatory structure even worse in the future.) So what they are GL> FS> really talking about is making our laws match theirs. The FDA is GL> FS> bad enough. The EU system is even WORSE. GL> FS> -S.830 gives a single manufacturer the right to turn a dietary GL> FS> supplement into a drug. GL> Frank --> Does Senator Hatch (R-UT) know about this bill? GL> What about including Senator Hatch's address info in future GL> warnings? Gotta give him another chance to vote unethically. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00006Date: 08/25/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 08:44pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana & Addicti [1/3 JANE KELLEY was thinking about Marijuana & Addicti [1/3 and keyed into cyberspace: JK>MP>MP>You are coming into this thread well after Jane has shown that JK>MP>MP>she is adamant about researching medicinal use of marijuana. JK>MP>MP>Jane does not want facts, just diatribe. JK>I've got the FACTS and the kind of diatribe I find from those who are JK>defending their right to use this noxious weed and to make it JK>available to kids makes me want to go right through the screen with a JK>machette in hand and lop off whatever is handy. Maybe I should not have invited you for a weekend out on the water... No one has advocated making marijuana available to kids. What many people want is that its medicinal use be researched in controlled studies to see if it does do a better job than what is being used now. If a person is dying, should they not receive the best possible care to make their last days as comfortable and peaceful as possible? Or, are you going to use that machete on them, too? :) ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECY00007Date: 08/26/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 08:33pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana As Medicine JANE KELLEY was thinking about Marijuana As Medicine and keyed into cyberspace: JK>MP>GL> JK> Bull. I have in hand a copy of "Pot Safari" by Peggy JK>MP>GL> JK> Mann, daughter It has Library of Congress no. 82-91050. JK>MP>GL> JK> Since that time, the stuff has gotten stronger. Any book JK>MP>GL> JK> done today in the same fashion would simply find more JK>MP>GL> JK> chemicals in marijuana than the 2,000 referred to in this JK>MP>GL> JK> book. Toxic chemicals. JK>MP>GL> Jane -- If the marijuana seed could be altered so JK>MP>GL> the seed would then contain little or no THC {which JK>MP>GL> produces the "high"}, I wonder if marijuana smokers JK>MP>GL> would still desire to smoke it? JK>MP>While I do not use marijuana, I could see no point to eating JK>MP>chocolateless chocolate. JK>EXACTLY! We have also had the Rand report which attempted to justify JK>the use of alcohol by everyone. That lingered around and killed a JK>few alcoholics before it got shot out of the media. Too bad you did not stop by, we had some great luck and had a few delightful dinners of fresh fish with a glass of a lovely LI white wine. JK>This latest effort on the part of addicts to justify their use will JK>also be exposed, eventually, for exactly what it is. I would not call the group that reported on the testing of marijuana a bunch of addicts. Take a look who was on the panel. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110)