--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECS00011Date: 08/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:48am \/To: GEORGE LAGERGREN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Pharmacutical company GL> Mark --> The FDA and the international pharmacutical companies GL> want to regulate vitamins and herbs so a doctor's okay would GL> be necessary to obtain them. They are also trying to use GL> international treaties as a means to accomplish this. GL> This regulation effort will be in the news more as time passes. That means we stockpile them again just as our ancestors once did. And little old ladies beware those who want their money and land. * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECS00012Date: 08/22/97 From: CRAIG LOEWEN Time: 11:23pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Ancient wisdom lost JK>I've got chamomile growing wild around here. Is there any danger in JK>picking and saving this plant? ** I'm a new subscriber here in the Gettysburg, PA area and a hardcore herb freak. I'd say if you've made a positive ID and it isn't growing too close to a road, go for it. JK>Just got some sage and rosemary to put in with some other low shrubs. JK>I am going to keep looking for herbs for that area. You got rosemary to grow? I love that herb, using it often in cooking with vegetables, but I have no success in getting it to grow. You'll have to tell me your secret. JK>I planted an oak tree next to my two holly trees. I think there is JK>something way back trying to say something:) Now if you get yourself an ash tree, you'll have quite a, shall we say, druidic collection? I do try to grow a lot of herbs, but my favorite is the mint family. I just got true peppermint this year to go along with the apple mint, pineapple mint, orange mint and chocolate mint. There is a greenhouse north of me in Grantham, PA called Ashcombes and they are celebrating their herb festival tomorrow with all their herbs on sale for $.99. Hopefully, I'll be able to complete my mint collection. Craig A. Loewen @ Gettysburg, PA ><> cloewen@juno.com TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00000Date: 08/22/97 From: DAN KALISHMAN Time: 10:59pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: 5 Discourses on The End Times!!! Send Orders Reveled by GOD to his son Daniel. ACNOS-EPU with payment Foreward to discourse. 4738 Golden Valley Dr. Cash\M.O. ---------------------------------------> Imperial, MO. 63052 To: 5 Discourses on PROTECTED SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT and GROWTH in the END TIMES. 1. The NUMBERS thier SYMBOLOGY and MEANINGS. $1.00 2. PRINCIPLES of SUCCESS and ACCOMPLISHMENT in LIFE. $2.00 3. PRINCIPLES of GROWTH and ENLIGHTENMENT in the SPIRIT. $3.00 4. 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Holly is a tradional "guard" plant, and oak of course is one JE> of our most ancient and revered trees. Sounds beautiful! I have four holly trees, two I bought in a nursery and two that survived being transplanted from an ex-husband's home. He liked them but my daughter doesn't. She bought the place after he died. I also want to get at least one noble fir somewhere on this acre of mine. --- SLMR 2.1a On a clear disk you can seek forever * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00002Date: 08/23/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:41am \/To: GARY PETZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Lazy & Stupid GP>For once I agree with Jane that we lack rituals in our society. We have GP>throun them to the wind. TAke for example the transition from adolescence t GP>adulthood. Many societies have formal rituals. WE laclk these. Our society is so damn sick that it takes a beautiful child like the Ramsey girl, exploits her in "beauty pagents" and then kills her in a very brutal fashion. We need rituals for transition from childhood to adolescence and others for reaching adulthood. And we need to crack down on those who would exploit small children for any kind of sexual gratification, no matter how innocent these look on the surface. We also need to take DNA samples from convicted child molesters and killers in order to know why these people commit these crimes and stop trying to make outdated witchcraft work. --- SLMR 2.1a This tagline stolen by Silly Little Mail Reader! * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00003Date: 08/23/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:41am \/To: GARY PETZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana GP>I am pleased that you have given some rerences that one can check out. I am GP>open-minded, not a user or a advocate of irrisponsible use. Perhaps it's GP>just a difference in terminology, but I almost never use the term right ny GP>more. I've learned the hard way, that all "rights" are relative. I do argu GP>for one thing, a rationale, sensible, sane drug policy that accomplishes GP>broadly head social goals of promting healthl, reducing crime and helping or GP>at least not stading in the way of people's fullfillment in their lives. Ou GP>current drug policy is goinog no where except to greater lawlessness, more GP>people in jail and more crime. BEFORE the CIA got in control via George Bush, we had a sane drug policy. It was called treatment. One of the first things that the Reagan/Bush era did was to slash treatment funds and give the money to corrections instead, initiating a vicious modern day witchhunt in the process. The ancestors of these men tried to cure alcoholism in New England by putting addicts in stocks on public display; they tried to cure drug addiction AND alcoholism by locking up addicts without any treatment for their disease! That didn't work. And slashing the former funds for prevention with children, eliminating one treatment program for children after another has produced the results we have today. This cry for marijuana to be legalized is the final result.....something like turning the henhouses over to the foxes to solve the problem of theft in the night. I've been in our local courts lately.....at least 90% of those who stand in front of the judge in jail jumpers are there as a result of their chemical dependency problems. I tried to get treatment for them and found out that the local judges don't have the faintest idea of what to do or where to send them. We have a large mess on our hands, the result of deliberate misinformation from first the federal government under the Reagan/Bush era, and second from addicts defending their right to use. This Christian Coalition sure has some very strange bedfellows indeed. --- SLMR 2.1a This tagline is umop apisdn * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00004Date: 08/23/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:41am \/To: GARY PETZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana & Addicti [1/3 GP>I don't know where I'm coming into this discussion, but I want to point ut GP>that we have very little hard research on marijuana because of the GP>irrationale, GP>hysterical vendetta against it, putting it in the same class with other GP>"hard" GP>drugs. I wonder if the strong policy that puts us almost in a policy tate GP>with regard to drugs, might have been lent a lot of support by the war in GP>Viet GP>Nam. GP>I want to to point out that hard evidence is not going to an AA meeting nd GP>asking. GP>--- WM v3.10/92-0423 GP> * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) --- SLMR 2.1a Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00005Date: 08/23/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:41am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana & Addicti [1/3 SK>JK>Sorry, sonny. It is the result of doing intakes on chemically SK>JK>dependent patients for some 25 years. SK>I'm not your son...your calling me same just illustrates your lack of SK>ability to debate with true evidence. Nope. It indicates that this 69 year old female is getting sick and tired of the crap coming from a drug affected source and sounding more and more sick each time she encounters it. The research indicates that the frontal lobe of the brain is permanently damaged by drug use, that higher mental processes such as the ability to plan are heavily damaged by drug use. The research also indicates that the use of any drug will severely impact emotional growth of those who use it. So the term means that I consider the source in your case. --- SLMR 2.1a My reality check just bounced. * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECT00006Date: 08/23/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:41am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana As Medicine MP>GL> JK> Bull. I have in hand a copy of "Pot Safari" by Peggy Mann, MP>GL> JK> daughter It has Library of Congress no. 82-91050. Since that MP>GL> JK> time, the stuff has gotten stronger. Any book done today in the MP>GL> JK> same fashion would simply find more chemicals in marijuana than MP>GL> JK> the 2,000 referred to in this book. Toxic chemicals. MP>GL> Jane -- If the marijuana seed could be altered so the MP>GL> seed would then contain little or no THC {which produces MP>GL> the "high"}, I wonder if marijuana smokers would still MP>GL> desire to smoke it? MP>While I do not use marijuana, I could see no point to eating MP>chocolateless chocolate. EXACTLY! We have also had the Rand report which attempted to justify the use of alcohol by everyone. That lingered around and killed a few alcoholics before it got shot out of the media. This latest effort on the part of addicts to justify their use will also be exposed, eventually, for exactly what it is. --- SLMR 2.1a It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255)