--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00003Date: 08/14/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:10am \/To: GARY PETZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana as medicine 1/ GP>I wonder from when comes your authority for making broad-based claims bout GP>ill effects of Mariju AS I see it, the substance is very understudied, becau GP>of the abuse histeria. We would be doing ourselves a serve as a society o GP>able to put it to study and real find out what affects it has. As I have se GP>it used, I doubt what you say, but anecdotal is all any of us have to make o GP>claims. Bull. I have in hand a copy of "Pot Safari" by Peggy Mann, daughter of Margaret Mann, first female member of Alocoholics Anonymous. It documents with fact after fact, conversation after conversation her trip of 4 months to the top marijuana researchers in this nation and Canada. It has Library of Congress no. 82-91050. Since that time, the stuff has gotten stronger. Any book done today in the same fashion would simply find more chemicals in marijuana than the 2,000 referred to in this book. Toxic chemicals. The properties of this noxious weed haven't changed for the better in the 15 years since the original research was done. And anyone who insists that it has is defending a substance they are under the influence of, one way or another. Another book on my shelves that I cannot see readily was published by the union for the corrections officers in Seattle who worked in the King County Jail. They saw first hand what happened to kids who were under the influence of this weed and wrote a manual on it for parents. It didn't glorify the use of a drug that has killed many youngsters in King County. Not one damn bit. And I suggest that anyone who is ignorant of the truth about this drug is either defending the right to use it or is under its influence in one way or another. There is no right inherent in using a mind altering drug and endangering one's own life or the life of anyone else. None. * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00004Date: 08/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 07:14am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Paik Should have been "Pain". I've been taking Glucosamine and Chondrotin for over 3 months and the pain from arthritis is a lot less. However, now I notice a burning pain in both legs, just below the knees. Latest M.D. says this may be neurological in nature, try a topical cream and call him in two weeks. The cream he recommends is made from peppers and I am highly allergic to all of the nightshade family of foods. I used it on the right leg and good old Bengay on the left leg. Result was that I was kept awake one night with pain in the right leg. The right leg hurts more. I can recommend the Glucosamine and Chondroitin. They have made life bearable for me. Anyone know about the burning pain? It seems to be "left over" from the arthritis and isn't the same kind of pain. * SPITFIRE v3.5 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00005Date: 08/15/97 From: ALEX VASAUSKAS Time: 06:17am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana as medicine 1/ Jane Kelley wrote in a message to Gary Petz: GP>I wonder from when comes your authority for making broad-based GP>claims about ill effects of Marijuana... JK> Gary, wake up. I have quoted books that can be found today which JK> are both factual and contain extensive material indicating that JK> marijuana is actually much worse for the human body than nicotine JK> ever thought of being. Jane, this response is either an intentional lie or a symptom of Alzheimer's disease. You have never quoted any such book here. You have never even cited any such book. In fact, there is no such book based upon scientifically credible information. On the other hand, I have provided you with cites and full-body texts demonstrating that your assertions are false and that Gary is right, and all you have ever done is arbitrarily gainsay the information. --- * Origin: 61 deg. 25' N / 149 deg. 40' W (1:17/75) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00006Date: 08/16/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:19am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Pain -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to All <=- JK> Should have been "Pain". I've been taking Glucosamine and Chondrotin JK> for over 3 months and the pain from arthritis is a lot less. However, JK> now I notice a burning pain in both legs, just below the knees. JK> Latest M.D. says this may be neurological in nature, try a topical JK> cream and call him in two weeks. The cream he recommends is made from JK> peppers and I am highly allergic to all of the nightshade family of Jane -- Along with your use of glucosamine and chondrotin, are you taking aloe vera? Aloe vera is good for removing toxins from the body. Also, taking grape seed extract may loosen up the whole body. And of course making sure one's vitamin/mineral supplement has the mineral boron in it. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00007Date: 08/16/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:19am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Marijuana as medicine 1/ -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Gary Petz <=- JK> Bull. I have in hand a copy of "Pot Safari" by Peggy Mann, daughter JK> It has Library of Congress no. 82-91050. Since that time, the stuff JK> has gotten stronger. Any book done today in the same fashion would JK> simply find more chemicals in marijuana than the 2,000 referred to in JK> this book. Toxic chemicals. Jane -- If the marijuana seed could be altered so the seed would then contain little or no THC {which produces the "high"}, I wonder if marijuana smokers would still desire to smoke it? ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00008Date: 08/16/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:19am \/To: BRIAN SHAW (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Japanese Health Tech -=> Quoting Brian Shaw to Mark Probert <=- BS> MARK PROBERT as usual had nothing better to do than to police the BS> internet: MP>BRIAN SHAW was thinking about JAPANESE HEALTH TECH and keyed MP>into cyberspace: Brian --> Some moderators of FIDO conferences desire pre-approval of any ad material. I do not know how Dia, the moderator of this ALTMED echo feels about ads posted here. I do notice that Internet USENET news groups conferences such as alt.health have plenty of network marketing ads posted there. I do not know how or whether I-net news groups have moderators to police them. Regarding the use of magnets as an alternative medicine, some people seem to benefit from the use of them. While other people do not see any benefit. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00009Date: 08/16/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:19am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: FOOD SUPPLEMENTS IN DANGE * Crossposted from: AHEALTH Message about FDA regulation of supplements: -=> Quoting Pilothigh to <=- Pi> From: PilotHigh@heaven.com (PilotHigh) Pi> Subject: FOOD SUPPLEMENTS IN DANGER! Pi> Newsgroups: alt.health Pi> Organization: None Pi> Message-ID: Pi> Codex Alimentarius and What It Means To You Pi> By Jackie Buchanan Pi> "Unless we put medical freedom into the constitution, the Pi> time will come when medicine will organize itself into an Pi> undercover dictatorship . . . denying equal privileges. All Pi> such laws are un- American and despotic . . . Pi> -Benjamin Rush, Physician Signer, Declaration of Pi> Independence Pi> Codex Alimentarius, in simple terms, is a code of law for Pi> food. What it actually means to each and everyone of us is a Pi> threat to our health and the health of every human being on Pi> this planet. Pi> The future availability and legal status of herbs, vitamins, Pi> amino acids, minerals and all other supplements in the U.S. Pi> and throughout the world, may be determined by a committee Pi> made up of 146 nations called the Codex Alimentarius Pi> Commission, which operates in conjunction with the United Pi> Nations and the World Health Organization (WHO). Pi> It is under the guise of protecting public safety through Pi> the standardization of food and botanical codes that the Pi> commission may be a tool of the international pharmaceutical Pi> industry that is intent on making ALL SUPPLEMENTS -herbal or Pi> otherwise- available by prescription only. Pi> Established in 1962 for the purpose of setting international Pi> standards and codes for foods, the Codex Commission is over- Pi> whelmingly composed of German and International Pi> Pharmaceutical Corporations. Over 90% of the international Pi> organizations ALLOWED to send delegates to the meetings Pi> represent giant multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Pi> The only consumer organization is the International Pi> Organization of Consumer Unions. Pi> NEITHER THE NATURAL HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY NOR THE GENERAL Pi> PUBLIC HAS ANY REPRESENTATION AT THE CODEX MEETINGS. Pi> Spearheaded by the German pharmaceutical corporations, this Pi> Codex Commission plans to ban -on a worldwide basis- any Pi> health statement in relation to any non-prescription Pi> supplement, preventive, therapeutic, or otherwise. Moreover, Pi> any formulas which would still be available would have to Pi> meet the arbitrary restrictions of the Codex Commission. Pi> Those nations that do not comply with these restrictions are Pi> faced with economic sanctions. Pi> While researching this article, I came across a letter Pi> written in 1995 from Matthias Rath, MD to Chancellor Kohl Pi> and Members of the German Bundersag, prior to the Codex Pi> meeting in Bonn Germany in 1996. Pi> "As a physician and scientist who led the breakthrough in Pi> vitamin research which can eradicate heart disease, I feel Pi> it is incumbent upon me to address this important matter . . Pi> .. as I see it, the attack of the Codex Commission is a Pi> desperate act by the pharmaceutical companies to protect Pi> their world wide drug market against naturally effective and Pi> much more affordable supplements. Particularly disturbing is Pi> the role of the German pharmaceutical and chemical Pi> corporations within the Codex Commission. Once before in Pi> this century, a German pharmaceutical and chemical Pi> corporation, I.G. Farben, became responsible for the deaths Pi> of millions of people and consequently was dismantled in Pi> 1946 by the Nuremberg Tribunal and split into Bayer, BASF, Pi> and Hoechst. With the current plans of the German Pi> pharmaceutical companies, the predictable dimension of the Pi> unnecessary and premature death of millions of people is Pi> unavoidable. If the Codex Commission is allowed to obstruct Pi> the eradication of heart disease by restricting access to Pi> nutritional supplements, more than 12 million people Pi> world-wide will continue to die every year from premature Pi> heart attacks and strokes. Within the next generation alone, Pi> this would result in over 300 million premature deaths, more Pi> than in all the wars of mankind together . . ." Pi> When I first read this, I took it with a grain of salt - Pi> until I came across an article in Issue 14 of the Pi> Alternative Medicine Digest, a reprint of an article that Pi> originally appeared in the Wall Street Journal on April 25, Pi> 1996. The headline read "They're Scientific When It Suits Pi> Them, But a $1.4-Billion Deal is Better than Science." The Pi> article opened by saying that if a study which was Pi> peer-reviewed by 5 independent medical experts had been Pi> published in the Journal of the American Medical Association Pi> in January 1995 as planned, American consumers with thyroid Pi> problems would have saved $356 million a year in drug costs. Pi> However, the publication of this article would have wrecked Pi> a $1.4-billion deal for its manufacturer, Boots Company, the Pi> British pharmaceuticals and drugstore chain. The study Pi> documented how Synthroid, which controls 84% of the US Pi> thyroid medication market and is used by 8 million Pi> Americans, works no better than 3 other lower priced drugs. Pi> The makers of Synthroid - first introduced in 1958 as a Pi> synthetic version of thyroid hormone - had never been Pi> required by the FDA to submit proper clinical trial data, Pi> like other drugs. An unpatented drug for underactive Pi> thyroids, Synthroid's vigorous U.S. sales have been Pi> protected by something as good as a patent: the presumption Pi> that the competing, lower-priced drugs are not Pi> bioequivalent, which means that they are not absorbed and Pi> assimilated as fast and as well as Synthroid. Pi> The JAMA study proved this presumption wrong and it was Pi> about to call an end to Synthroid's free market run. Even Pi> worse, the study would have jeopardized Boots' $1.4 billion Pi> buy-out by Germany's BASF-AG. How did the study's sponsor, Pi> which has invested $250,000 to finance the research feel Pi> about it? It was the sponsor itself -- none other than Boots Pi> that did everything to discredit the study and block its Pi> publication. Quite clearly, scientific evidence takes a Pi> backseat to preserving the competitive edge. Pi> Another more recent web-site written from a Canadian point Pi> of view about how Codex will affect Canada goes on to state: Pi> In October, 1996, Codex met in Bonn, Germany to make radical Pi> changes in the rules governing dietary supplements for Pi> member nations. The proposals of greatest concern were those Pi> made by the German delegation (see the proposed Draft Pi> Guidelines for Dietary Supplements) and is being sponsored Pi> by Hoechst, Bayer and BASF. These are the three drug Pi> companies formed when the Nuremberg War Trials disbanded IG Pi> Farben, manufacturer of the poison gas used in Nazi Pi> concentration camps. This is not the first time that the UN Pi> has been linked closely with Nazi war criminals. Ostensibly, Pi> their purpose is " . . .to create a set of international Pi> standards to guide the world's growing food industry and to Pi> protect the health of consumers. Pi> Can reports from 4 different, totally unrelated sources, be Pi> ignored? I think not! Pi> The pharmaceutical company backed proposals call for the Pi> following: Pi> 1. No vitamin, mineral, herb, etc., can be sold for Pi> prophylactic (preventative) or therapeutic reasons. Pi> 2. Natural remedies can be sold as food but they must not Pi> exceed the potency (dosage) levels set by the commission. Pi> This means that consumer access to dietary supplements will Pi> be limited to the RDA dosage as a maximum limit for vitamins Pi> (Vitamin C - 60 mg. Vitamin E - 15 mg., etc.) Supplements Pi> without an RDA (e.g. coenzyme Q10) would be illegal to sell Pi> because they would all become drugs. Pi> 3. Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become Pi> binding, eliminating the escape clause within the General Pi> Agreement of Tariffs and Trade (GATT) that allows a nation Pi> to set its own standards. This applies to all member Pi> countries of the UN. Any nation that does not accept these Pi> new standards will be heavily fined by the World Trade Pi> Organization (WTO) creating the potential for crippling Pi> entire sectors of that nation's economy. Pi> 4. All new supplements would be banned unless they go Pi> through the Codex approval process. Five steps have already Pi> been taken in the Codex process over the past few years. Pi> Remember Canadian Bill C-7 which was passed eventually in Pi> Canada as C-8? The similarity of the process, the secrecy, Pi> and the wording between the Codex proposals and the Canadian Pi> laws is uncanny. Voting in favor of adopting the German Pi> proposals has been overwhelming (16 for 2 against in the Pi> most recent vote). The Codex process is now at Step Five - Pi> formalization and debate concerning the specific features. Pi> In two years, Codex could jump from Step 5 to Step 8 to Pi> finalize these restrictions. Pi> In the U.S., the FDA has already tried to use guerrilla Pi> tactics to stop the use of these supplements. The first time Pi> I became totally aware of their horrendous practices was in Pi> the case of ESSIAC, the herbal formula that had been Pi> researched since the 1920's with excellent results in Pi> curing, yes I said curing, cancer. Fortunately, once their Pi> tactics came to light, a nation-wide non-violent revolution Pi> took place resulting in millions who were appalled at the Pi> tactics, writing letters and calling their congressmen and Pi> the FDA. The end result, ESSIAC is now widely available in Pi> many forms. Even Respirin, the drug company in Canada who Pi> owned the rights to the formula has started producing it and Pi> selling it via magazine ads and in health food stores. All Pi> of this took place in 1989-1990. Pi> In 1992, the FDA raided the Tahoma Clinic in Kent, Pi> Washington. The FDA alleged that Dr. Wright, MD was engaged Pi> in the commerce of foreign labeled injectable "drugs" (which Pi> were actually vitamins). This action interfaced with FDA Pi> raids of 17 health food stores in Texas and others in Pi> Oklahoma, supplement manufacturing facilities in California, Pi> Oregon, and Washington, and other nutritionally-oriented Pi> medical doctors across the US. Again, there was a national Pi> call to action of everyone interested in preserving their Pi> rights to make their own choices in health care. Letters Pi> were mailed and faxed to the White House by the millions and Pi> once again, the FDA was forced to back off. At this same Pi> time Bill H.R. 3642/S2135 was in committee and being Pi> reviewed prior to voting it into law. This bill would have Pi> given the FDA the power to put the health food and dietary Pi> supplement industry out of business. It would have also Pi> given them the power to legally conduct warrantless Pi> searches, seize and embargo products and levy heavy fines Pi> ($250,000 on individuals and $1,000,000 on companies) Pi> without a trial. Again, the people of the United States took Pi> action and through a powerful campaign whereby they voiced Pi> their opinions, another small battle was won for freedom of Pi> choice! Pi> In 1995, the FDA attempted to quietly but quickly do away Pi> with the use of any type of electronic instrumentation (not Pi> already approved) for use in diagnosing, tracking, or Pi> treating illness. This would have affected many doctors, Pi> dentists, osteopathic physicians, chiropractors, etc. Pi> Fortunately, they banded together, got their scientific Pi> studies and documentation together and, after a long hard Pi> struggle, managed to hold their ground and prevent the FDA Pi> and other interested parties (pharmaceutical companies and Pi> medical practitioners who felt that only the usual methods Pi> of treatment, i.e., surgery and drugs should be allowed) Pi> from getting their way. Pi> Now, here we are in 1997 and BY ALL APPEARANCES, the FDA has Pi> ceased their efforts to take away our rights to make our own Pi> choices about healthcare. Their policy with regard to the Pi> Codex standards is stated in the Federal Register of October Pi> 11, 1995 - FDA Policy on Standards, which states: Pi> "It is the intent of this policy to enable the FDA to Pi> continue to participate in international standards Pi> activities that assist it in implementing statutory Pi> provisions . . . Pi> and Pi> "The development of an international standard that achieves Pi> the agency's public objectives is generally, but not always, Pi> given a higher priority than the development of a domestic Pi> standard . . . Pi> and Pi> "Where a relevant international standard exists, or Pi> completion is imminent, it will generally be used in Pi> preference to a domestic standard . . . Pi> In considering the above statements about their intentions Pi> coupled with their past tactics as well as their continuing Pi> policy of ignoring the public's wishes in protecting health Pi> freedom, a public outcry against the Codex is again called Pi> for. I urge you to educate yourselves to what is really Pi> going on here. Most of the information can be found on the Pi> Web. In the past 4 months, I have found only one small Pi> article about this issue, tucked away in the back pages of Pi> Issue 18 of the Alternative Medicine Digest which is on the Pi> newsstands now. Pi> If the German and Canadian proposals are passed, it would Pi> constitute an effective end run by the pharmaceutical Pi> companies around the medical rights of Americans. They Pi> wouldn't dare attempt to do this in the U.S. because there Pi> would be such a public uproar Pi> it would never pass through congress. However, by taking the Pi> stance that they have, the FDA WILL ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS BY Pi> LETTING CODEX DO ITS UNACCEPTABLE DIRTY WORK. The Pi> pharmaceutical companies are planning a global takeover of Pi> the vitamin-herb industry and within a few short years, they Pi> will have succeeded by pushing competitors out of the field. Pi> They are planning to do it very quietly and carefully Pi> through GATT and the Codex Commission. They will succeed if Pi> they are not exposed and their plan is not given national Pi> headlines. Pi> This is the last wake-up call that may be given before it is Pi> too late. It is of the utmost importance that everyone Pi> become aware and voice their displeasure with the leaders of Pi> their respective governmental agencies. In the U.S., it is Pi> imperative that everyone call and write to their local Pi> congressmen. Phone the White House. Call the FDA. Tell Pi> everyone you know to do the same. Call your local newspaper Pi> and alert them to what is really going on here. If we don't Pi> take action now, our freedom to choose will be taken away Pi> without most of us even being aware that it had happened! Pi> President Bill Clinton, Pi> The White House, Washington, DC 20500 Pi> Phone: 202-205-5372 Fax: 202-260-8957 Pi> E-mail: president@Whitehouse.gov Pi> Dr. Elizabeth Yetley, Director Pi> Office of SpecialNutritionals, HFS-45 Pi> US Food and Drug Administration Pi> 200 C Street S.W. Washington, DC 20204, USA Pi> 202-205-4168 FAX: 202-205-5295 Pi> E-mail: eyetley@bangate.fda.gov Pi> * * * * * * * * * * About the author * * * * * * * * * * * Pi> Jackie Buchanan has 26 years experience in the medical and Pi> textbook publishing field. She may be reached at Buchanan Pi> Publishing, P.O. Box 732 Collinsville, Illinois 62234 Email Pi> address: gypsy@MO.NET Pi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * End of message ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECK00010Date: 08/16/97 From: GEORGE LAGERGREN Time: 11:19am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Codex Highlights * Crossposted from: AHEALTH Message about CODEX treaty on supplements (shortened version) Cross-posted from the Internet USENET news group: alt.health -=> Quoting Pilothigh to <=- Pi> The future availability and legal status of herbs, vitamins, Pi> amino acids, minerals and all other supplements in the U.S. Pi> and throughout the world, may be determined by a committee Pi> made up of 146 nations called the Codex Alimentarius Pi> Commission, which operates in conjunction with the United Pi> Nations and the World Health Organization (WHO). Pi> Established in 1962 for the purpose of setting international Pi> standards and codes for foods, the Codex Commission is over- Pi> whelmingly composed of German and International Pi> Pharmaceutical Corporations. Over 90% of the international Pi> organizations ALLOWED to send delegates to the meetings Pi> represent giant multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Pi> The only consumer organization is the International Pi> Organization of Consumer Unions. Pi> In October, 1996, Codex met in Bonn, Germany to make radical Pi> changes in the rules governing dietary supplements for Pi> member nations. The proposals of greatest concern were those Pi> made by the German delegation (see the proposed Draft Pi> Guidelines for Dietary Supplements) and is being sponsored Pi> by Hoechst, Bayer and BASF. These are the three drug Pi> companies formed when the Nuremberg War Trials disbanded IG Pi> Farben, manufacturer of the poison gas used in Nazi Pi> concentration camps. This is not the first time that the UN Pi> has been linked closely with Nazi war criminals. Ostensibly, Pi> their purpose is " . . .to create a set of international Pi> standards to guide the world's growing food industry and to Pi> protect the health of consumers. Pi> The pharmaceutical company backed proposals call for the Pi> following: Pi> 1. No vitamin, mineral, herb, etc., can be sold for Pi> prophylactic (preventative) or therapeutic reasons. Pi> 2. Natural remedies can be sold as food but they must not Pi> exceed the potency (dosage) levels set by the commission. Pi> This means that consumer access to dietary supplements will Pi> be limited to the RDA dosage as a maximum limit for vitamins Pi> (Vitamin C - 60 mg. Vitamin E - 15 mg., etc.) Supplements Pi> without an RDA (e.g. coenzyme Q10) would be illegal to sell Pi> because they would all become drugs. Pi> 3. Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become Pi> binding, eliminating the escape clause within the General Pi> Agreement of Tariffs and Trade (GATT) that allows a nation Pi> to set its own standards. This applies to all member Pi> countries of the UN. Any nation that does not accept these Pi> new standards will be heavily fined by the World Trade Pi> Organization (WTO) creating the potential for crippling Pi> entire sectors of that nation's economy. Pi> 4. All new supplements would be banned unless they go Pi> through the Codex approval process. Five steps have already Pi> been taken in the Codex process over the past few years. Pi> Remember Canadian Bill C-7 which was passed eventually in Pi> Canada as C-8? The similarity of the process, the secrecy, Pi> and the wording between the Codex proposals and the Canadian Pi> laws is uncanny. Voting in favor of adopting the German Pi> proposals has been overwhelming (16 for 2 against in the Pi> most recent vote). The Codex process is now at Step Five - Pi> formalization and debate concerning the specific features. Pi> In two years, Codex could jump from Step 5 to Step 8 to Pi> finalize these restrictions. Pi> it would never pass through congress. However, by taking the Pi> stance that they have, the FDA WILL ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS BY Pi> LETTING CODEX DO ITS UNACCEPTABLE DIRTY WORK. The Pi> pharmaceutical companies are planning a global takeover of Pi> the vitamin-herb industry and within a few short years, they Pi> will have succeeded by pushing competitors out of the field. Pi> They are planning to do it very quietly and carefully Pi> through GATT and the Codex Commission. They will succeed if Pi> they are not exposed and their plan is not given national Pi> headlines. Pi> This is the last wake-up call that may be given before it is Pi> too late. It is of the utmost importance that everyone Pi> become aware and voice their displeasure with the leaders of Pi> their respective governmental agencies. In the U.S., it is Pi> imperative that everyone call and write to their local Pi> congressmen. Phone the White House. Call the FDA. Tell Pi> everyone you know to do the same. Call your local newspaper Pi> and alert them to what is really going on here. If we don't Pi> take action now, our freedom to choose will be taken away Pi> without most of us even being aware that it had happened! Pi> President Bill Clinton, Pi> The White House, Washington, DC 20500 Pi> Phone: 202-205-5372 Fax: 202-260-8957 Pi> E-mail: president@Whitehouse.gov Pi> Dr. Elizabeth Yetley, Director Pi> Office of SpecialNutritionals, HFS-45 Pi> US Food and Drug Administration Pi> 200 C Street S.W. Washington, DC 20204, USA Pi> 202-205-4168 FAX: 202-205-5295 Pi> E-mail: eyetley@bangate.fda.gov Pi> * * * * * * * * * * About the author * * * * * * * * * * * Pi> Jackie Buchanan has 26 years experience in the medical and Pi> textbook publishing field. She may be reached at Buchanan Pi> Publishing, P.O. Box 732 Collinsville, Illinois 62234 Email Pi> address: gypsy@MO.NET Pi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * End of message ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Amie v0.98 * Origin: The Edge BBS * Severn, MD * (410)551-2586 (1:261/1454) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECL00000Date: 08/16/97 From: GARY PETZ Time: 03:06pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 3 times) Subj: marijuana I am pleased that you have given some rerences that one can check out. I am open-minded, not a user or a advocate of irrisponsible use. Perhaps it's a just a difference in terminology, but I almost never use the term right any more. I've learned the hard way, that all "rights" are relative. I do argue for one thing, a rationale, sensible, sane drug policy that accomplishes broadly head social goals of promting healthl, reducing crime and helping or at least not stading in the way of people's fullfillment in their lives. Our current drug policy is goinog no where except to greater lawlessness, more people in jail and more crime. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: The Health Center (1:106/6355) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECL00001Date: 08/17/97 From: GARY PETZ Time: 12:45am \/To: AL FEYEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Lazy & Stupid For once I agree with Jane that we lack rituals in our society. We have throun them to the wind. TAke for example the transition from adolescence to adulthood. Many societies have formal rituals. WE laclk these. Another problem with our present society is that we have gotten separated from the land. We no longer work within the family at teh same enterprise as farm families did. We no longer have appreciaion for the land and teh environment. I don't think I'm far afield from the question of drug addiction either. A large part of societies dependence on drugs, whether legal or illegal is because of lack of structure through rituals and lack of relatedness through breakdown of the family, a basic societal institution. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: The Health Center (1:106/6355)