--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC400000Date: 07/21/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 07:50am \/To: SUE SMITH (Read 1 times) Subj: A.d.d SS>Thank you so much for the references. I will get busy and see what I SS>can find that works. Thanks and keep your fingers crossed for me! Those are just some of what is on the net. Keep looking with different words and see how much turns up. Don't forget Medline and Medscape also which can provide some useful information at times. Then you can also access some of the medical journals, or at least an abstract of the articles and go look them up in the library. I wish you the best of luck. * SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC400001Date: 07/21/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 07:48am \/To: ADOLFO MEDINA (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana & Addicti [1/3 AM>AM>JK HI Jane!! I currently work in a residential drug and alcohol AM>treatment facility and concur on everything you've commented on. I'm AM>somewhat familiar with the DSM-IV. I have just passed the written AM>requirement for the MFCC license. I was wondering re: pot masking the sx AM>of alcohol... where is the research come from? I could certainly use it AM>with the population that I work with...thanks in advance... AM> JK>If you AM>also consider that the use of pot masks the worst symptoms of AM>JK>alcoholism in the early and middle stages of the disease then drops AM>the JK>person abruptly into the chronic phase with a very severe AM>physical JK>reaction, then I can also relate to that. That is from my own observation of teenagers when I worked for Pierce County and in other jobs. I'm finally retired after the last judge sent someone to anger management who needed chemical dependency treatment. Before that, I worked in the field or was associated with folks in recovery for over 25 years. The young things today take multiple drugs........to hide the symptoms of use such as the lethargy from the pot.......this will be offset by either cocaine or an amphetamine to get them up in the morning and going. For someone who has been hard hit by the booze and the pot, the use of either or both will soon send the patient to an emergency room with an O.D. Not all of them manage to get into this state, just the ones who are hard hit. And the only way to find out seems to be to use the drugs. We also have the occassional hard hit kid such as the Quinlan girl who went into a comma after a party. Hard to know just which drugs were available that night. Kids sometimes know what they are buying from pushers and at other times, do not. That makes the cases hard to treat. We had a film where I used to work showing the adults who became completely paralyzed from one drug made in illegal labs.......... someone was trying to make a batch of synthetic narcotic. We can predict which families will have a tendency towards alcoholism. We cannot predict which families will have a tendency to have severe reactions from other drugs. * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500000Date: 08/03/97 From: JAMIE PUNNET Time: 08:16pm \/To: ANDREW GRIMSBY (Read 1 times) Subj: THE PUNNET PACKAGE! * Crossposted from: PUBLIC Messages on the BBS You have recieved: THE PUNNET PACKAGE! ͻ This package is brought to you with the blessings of Jamie Punnet (i am a twat). * This is for all of my friends out there who took the time to welcome me and then went mean :( To Andss: I dont like you or your BBS dont talk to me again! To FloweR: thank you for your chat and telling me about youre sister. I'm going to ask my mummy if i can go to that nice school next year. p.s. I DO NOT RAPE SHEEP! To raymond: Thank you for helping me to write this and helping me to get online. To my friends: Thank you for reading this. and raymond says that you should all be nice to him, because he is a really nice person but noone lets him express himself. THANK YOU ALL!!! THANK YOU ALL!!! THANK YOU ALL!!! ͼ p.s if anyone wants to chat you may call me on : 01482-861-102 (especially flowrers sister, sorry I'm supposed to say daVID) raymond says not to write his phone number yet. --- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: METRIC BBS * 01705 871471 * Multi Line * V34 28k8 * (2:251/21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500001Date: 08/04/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:05am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: ?Zen > "WE" can only transend the physical if "WE" fit into certain > perimeters > to begin with. There are some of "US" who are incapable of > doing this. > Dont' think it's incapable...just don't believe in the possiblity of. > Some of "US" also have no idea of the things that are not > seen, don't > want to, and have managed to nobly resist any attempts to That's true BUT that doesn't make the rest invalid..just something not interested in. > "Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain" or "Diary of a > Witch" and both were pretty good. > But only if our brains basically are capable of honing into > the > electromagnetic energy around us. It's all sorta like a big receiving station..like a radio..there are frequencies and radio waves all around us filled with music, talk and who knows what else but unless we have the receiving instrument (radio) tuned to it we won't hear it. It's like that with our minds..it's not hard or even impossible to tune into other kinds of frequencies..we do it all the time and don't realize it..the hard part is doing it when you want to. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500002Date: 08/04/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:02am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Question > > There is some free stuff that is factual and not selling > anything but > good health. There's lots of good stuff that's really useful..sometimes overwhelming so..I was lucky to have tripped over what I did and the different browsers have different listings..it gets confusing sometimes. Lemme know ifyou found anything, especially about chemical properties and nutritive values of food. Thanks.. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500003Date: 07/20/97 From: ANGEL SEVEN Time: 09:32pm \/To: WAYNE YOUNG (Read 1 times) Subj: acupuncture I am not sure why this was posted by you instead of Luke Thomas WY>Accupuncture has captured our imagination for a long time here. WY>The following message amy be of interest to some of you: WY> * Originally By: Luke Thomas WY> * Originally To: Kurt Ullman WY> * Originally Re: acupuncture WY> * Original Area: Ask_A_Nurse WY> * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.12 WY>Hi Kurt! WY>After one treatment the pain was gone for one day, then it came back the WY>next, but the following day it felt as though I had a cortisone I have inflamatory arthritis caused by Hemochromatosis. The arthritis has progressed very rapidly. Being bled a pint of blood every two weeks for over a year left me so weak I was hardly moving ... which made my arthritis worse. The blood letting now has the toxic iron level that was in my vital organs close enough to normal for me to be bled only once every three months. So my strength is starting to come back. With Hemochromatosis if the toxic level of iron happens to be put in the bones it is rare that the bleeding leaches this out ... well fed organs like the heart tend to get rid of the iron more reliably. Hemochromatosis is a genetic disease that you only get if both parents are carriers. Although I had sysmptoms for years I only got diagnosed in March of '96. Gregory Watts. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X Without Time, everything would happen at once. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Metamorphosis II BBS (1:153/801) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500004Date: 07/20/97 From: ANGEL SEVEN Time: 10:19pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: New to this echo I am new to this echo .... wishing to learn pointers in dealing with the inflamatory arthritis and the genetic disease hemochromatosis that brought on this disease. I am finding it difficult going through 500 messages looking for material that might help because the subject posted is often not the subject that is covered in the body of the post. In some posts it seems like I am entering a room where an argument has been going on for five hours before I arrived and it is hard to catch on to the real issues. I certaily appreciate hearing various points of view on a treatment ... which could help a reader toward drawing an informed decision. So I am not suggesting that everything should be without disention .... it is just that as I am searching the 500 posts I have downloaded I am getting more and more confused. I hope you do not mind me sharing my first reactions. I have had two malignent melenoma's and ended up spending a huge portion of my income on alternative medicine to make it less likely for me to get Cancer again. Before I got diagnosed with hemochromatosis a year ago I had so many varying diagnosis .... and followed the advice of each guru for more than a fair time alotment to see if they could help. On a personal note I recoil from argument too quickly and over-react to disention having had a background of being a victim and only coming to myself late in life --- So for now that is just the way I am. I think Jane (Kelly ?)'s ideas are terrific 99% of the time but really get thrown when things get confrontational. Gregory Watts. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X One World, One Family ... Please! (Mankind = One Family) --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Metamorphosis II BBS (1:153/801) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EC500005Date: 07/20/97 From: ANGEL SEVEN Time: 10:22pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sexually explicit messag If a newbie to this echo may make a request - please post the real topic of the post under the appropriate spot where it says "Subject" I wonder how many people this misleading subject post caught to read this message. Gregory Watts. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X Many wish to serve God, but only in an advisory capacity. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Metamorphosis II BBS (1:153/801) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECA00000Date: 08/04/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 05:52am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: A.d.d JANE KELLEY was thinking about A.d.d and keyed into cyberspace: JK>SS>Thank you so much for the references. I will get busy and see JK>SS>what I can find that works. Thanks and keep your fingers crossed JK>SS>for me! JK>Those are just some of what is on the net. Keep looking with JK>different words and see how much turns up. Don't forget Medline and JK>Medscape also which can provide some useful information at times. Medline and Medscape? That's where I get my information from. JK>Then you can also access some of the medical journals, or at least an JK>abstract of the articles and go look them up in the library. That's where I get my information from. She can also find ERIC for information on ADHD and education. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: ECB00000Date: 08/04/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 07:05am \/To: JASON HUFF (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: expert witness JH>JK> by my own agency due to an intern getting sloppy. She inserted one word JH>bet that made your boss real happy My ultimate superior was the man who ran the juvenile court, and no, he wasn't at all happy with this outcome. I think that played a part in him selling the agency to another firm which eventually ran it into the ground. * SLMR 2.1a * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1)