--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00068Date: 07/03/97 From: JOE DASHER Time: 09:16pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: SSRI MP> PAUL MICHAELSON was thinking about SSRI and keyed into cyberspace: PM>JANE, PM> PM> JK> Those with schizophrenia can tolerate a drug such as Prozac PM> JK> which is designed to LOWER the amount of serotonin, those with PM> JK> the Bipolar disorder and/or alcoholism with a lower than normal PM> JK> supply AT BIRTH of these crucial neurotransmitters, cannot. PM> PM>I thought Prozac was designed to increase the amount of serotonin in PM>the brain, by lowering the rate that it is reabsorbed there after it PM>is made. Isn't Prozac a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor PM>(SSRI)? MP> Jane flunks another reality test.... MP> ===>The Voice of Reason<=== MP> mark.probert@juno.com I agree!!!!!!! (tm) --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Nerve Center - Where the spine is misaligned! (1:261/1000) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00069Date: 07/02/97 From: STEVE KEMP Time: 02:49pm \/To: TY MEISSNER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: lucy TM> Its standard Fidonet practice that moderators make and TM> administer conference rules. I know that. She DID NOT identify herself as being the moderator until AFTER I responded to her. TM> Fidonet is NOT intended to be TM> democratic in any way sape or form. If you are suffering from TM> that misapprehension, be disabused of it right now. I have no problem with that at all. But, it IS often a place for discussions and debate. The VERY FIRST post I saw from Dia was "STOP IT! I'm not taking this anymore!" or something to that effect. NO IDENTIFICATION as being the moderator...and from her tone it seemed doubtful that she was the moderator. So, I responded. THEN I was informed that she was the moderator. Nuff said? TM> That said, I have to say as 20 BBS user, that Dia Sprigs is one TM> of the most tolerant and easygoing conference hosts I've EVER TM> seen and your comments are completely out of line. Nope, she is hardly easygoing OR tolerant. Neither are you. Maybe that's why you like her so. And YOUR comments are out of line. TM> I think you owe her an apology. Nope, she owes the people she was yelling at an apology. She, also, needs to learn how to properly moderate. I've been over this before....when a moderator doesn't stick that little Dia Spriggs, AltMedFido tag at the end of a MODERATION...she is then to be considered another PERSON to be debated with or talked to or whatever. You see, when a MODERATION happens it is usually against the rules to debate it. Thus, I did nothing wrong. I responded to a PERSON that was not identified as the MODERATOR. What part of this don't you get? Are you new to the world of rules of procedure? TM> And forget those silly ideas about democracy rambling around TM> your skull. Where do YOU come of brow-beating me? You show that you obviously don't know the point that I was making. PROPER and STANDARD moderation standards was the point. TM>This is America. Really I thought it was the woodshed and you were dropping my pants for a spanking. Well, YOU AIN'T my daddy. And the last time my daddy tried to beat me (some 30 years ago) I turned around and gave him a bloody nose. So, go away...mind your own business...get a life...SHOOO! --- * CMPQwk #1.42* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: CENTRAL PARK WEST - FOLSOM CA - 916.351.1476 PPI 33.6! (1:203/1476) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00070Date: 07/03/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 08:13am \/To: BOB MOYLAN (Read 1 times) Subj: A Drink Or 2 A Day BOB MOYLAN was thinking about A Drink Or 2 A Day and keyed into cyberspace: BM>Jason Huff (On 28 Jun 97) was overheard expounding to Jane Kelley BM> JH> correct me if i am wrong, but didn't you say in earlier posts, BM> JH> that the native americans have a genetic protction against BM> JH> alcoholism? BM> You are not, she did. BM> As you've noticed Jane has a tendency to not respond often to direct BM> questions with direct answers. She's very good at obfuscation. Finally, something that Jane is really good at. Chuckle. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00071Date: 07/04/97 From: CLIFF MORRISON Time: 09:46am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Bell's Palsy Hello All! I am currently undergoing a MULTITUDE of tests to confirm or rule out the above. The left side of my face is now completely paralyzed. Does ANYONE know ANYTHING about this disease? If so I would be MOST grateful for ANY info you could supply. Even a point in the right direction would be MOST appreciated! I'm located in Ontario Canada BTW if that makes a difference to the direction I would be pointed to. Can it get worse? Can I regain the use of my face? Can I play the piano, which would be a trick as I couldn't before. I hope all will excuse my humour but it's how I am currently coping with this. I'm only 40 and this has hit me pretty hard. I have enjoyed riding a Harley since I was 16. I am now unable to ride due to my left eye drying out in the wind as I can't blink. They tell me if I let it dry out too much it could crack and I stand the chance of losing it. Any suggestions as to how to deal with this? To Moderator, this is the correct echo for this is it not? If not please let me know and accept my apologies in advance. If it is, great, please ignore the previous sentence. Thanks in advance for ANY help offered or forth coming, Cliff InterNet: Bear@Superaje.com Cliff.Morrison@Bear.Gryn.Org ... Everybody should believe in something: I believe I'll have another rink. --- BearMail+ TAG 2.7 & OS/2 Warp * Origin: The Bear's Den V34/VFC Tag Beta Site TAGFLIST Home (1:256/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00072Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 12:20am \/To: JASON HUFF (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: A Drink Or 2 A Day JH>correct me if i am wrong, but didn't you say in earlier posts, that the nati JH>americans have a genetic protction against alcoholism? NO! And that came out of a long post telling you why. * SLMR 2.1a * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00073Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 12:52am \/To: TY MEISSNER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Bill White TM> JK> "Pollution causes people to commit violent crimes--homicide, TM> JK> aggravated assual, sexual assault and robbery--according to new TM> JK> research by Roger D. Msters and co-workers at Dartmouth College. " TM> The ONE already identified toxin that has caused more brain damage TM> including the kind that leads to social pathology and criminal TM> behavior isn't even a high tech toxin; it's LEAD. THAT I knew about....which is why paints changed and so did our gasoline to exclude lead. I am certain that there are high levels in some folks if we would only test for them. TM> Our petrochemical industry has done just as much to increase our TM> crime and violence as all the opium and cocaine druglords in history TM> put together. You mean to say that our love affair with the automobile is turning out to be dangerous and injurious to our health :)? The automobile engine was originally, according to a friend of some years back who researched this out, designed to run on ALCOHOL. Then someone discovered oil. We could revitalize the entire agricultural industry, send folks back to the farms, and ensure both enough water and food in the next century if we would only run our autos on alcohol. TM> But since these mass murderers (many of whom also sit on the boards TM> of international tobacco companies) are all rich white men, we don't TM> talk about it. Long since past time we did. And, some of them are rich, white women. * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00074Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 12:21am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: cancer virus SK>JK>JD>I know that feline leukemia is a contagious virus so maybe some SK>JK>JD>human cancer are also! My cat just got the vaccine for feline SK>JK>JD>leukemia! SK>JK>We have a habit of treating our pets very well in this SK>JK>nation,sometimes better than we do our children. That also goes for SK>JK>feeding. SK>Well then parents should treat their kids better, and beat their dogs SK>more. What does your post have to do with feline leukemia? Or, human SK>cancer? Do we have a vaccine to prevent leukemia in children? * SLMR 2.1a * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00075Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 12:24am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana SK>Your postulation that many that start with alcohol and them move on to SK>harder drugs is not factual. MOST people that drink alcohol DON'T do any SK>other drug....well except nicotine. Sonny, I don't know what mountain top you live on behind high walls with barbed wire enclosures that isolates you from reality. The blunt truth is that a "pure" alcoholic is almost unknown today. Most addicts are using at least two drugs besides alcohol and I am not limiting this to caffeine and nictotine. SK>Many end up in Psych wards by the time they are 20? I don't know what SK>planet you are living on but drug treatment is rather expensive and NOT SK>available to most drug users....AND drug use by and large does not make SK>people totally insane. Drug treatment is almost impossible to obtain for those without funds. Which is why we have such a high rate in this nation. And I am very certain that you have never done intakes or listened to those in the nearest A.A. or N.A. meeting. I have. * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00076Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 12:26am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: marijuana SK>Marijuana IS NOT addictive, it is (or can be) a habituant. According to those who have used it and are in recovery, marijuana is highly addictive. SK>An addiction is defined partly by the presence of PHYICAL withdrawal SK>symptoms as well as psychological withdrawal symptoms. Habituant SK>withdrawal is marked only by the latter. Bull. What do you call being unable to stand light in a room or not being able to get out of bed in the morning? What do you call changes in appetite? * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00077Date: 07/03/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:03am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: marijuana & addicti [1/3 AV>You accept the self-serving diagnosis of people who earnestly want AV>to believe that they are victims of external forces and are looking AV>for any excuse to blame their problems on something other than AV>themselves? It is very easy to tell that you haven't the faintest clue as to what A.A. or N.A. are all about. And with the attitude you present here, you are not likely to do so. Physiological research, including what I have presented AV>to you here previously and that you have chosen to ignore, has I've got too many books that are full of physiological research. The trend today is to ignore this and keep our jails and prisons full. That is precisely what your blasted mental health does for addicts.....keeps them in jail and other places. * SLMR 2.1a * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1)