--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00038Date: 07/06/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 10:13am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Alcohol As An Alternative AF> > What is the average salary? AF> Nobody really knows as not many (except civil servants and tariff AF> workers) know how much their collegues earn. One has to sell oneself AF> for what one thinks one is worth over here. Then I expect one also has to do something a bit shady in order to make ends meet at times? * SLMR 2.1a * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00039Date: 07/06/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 10:21am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Alcoholism AF> Hi Jane, AF> > Alan, ever wonder just how many genetic alcoholics have some form of si AF> > power? AF> > The answer is.......many. AF> Now explain to us what psi power is and how it is measured. ;-) That got done beautifully by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder in their books. The first, "Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain" was first published in May of 1970 by Prentice-Hall, Inc. I have a pocket book published by Bantam Books. It outlines the Russian experiments along these lines, including telepathy, Kirlian Photography to document the aura, ESP used as espionage, parasychology.....among others. Their second book is "Handbook of Psychic Discoveries" published in 1974, Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number: 73-88532. This book attempts to teach the reader how to duplicate the experiments the two authors witnessed previously. Read them for yourself and find out why our dipolmats in Russia got headaches from the "microwaves" they were bombarded with at one time. * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00040Date: 07/06/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 10:22am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Arthritis AF> I was not talking about the detox of addictive drugs and the inevitable AF> acompanying withdrawal symptoms but the detoxification of the body from AF> unwanted substances taken in with food and air and often stored AF> for safekeeping in fat if they can not be released shortly afterwards. AF> You don't seem to understand English at all when I repeatedly tell AF> you that I do not wish to discuss alcohol or drug addiction (i.e. AF> purposely self-inflicted injuries). Detox is detox. And the same principles apply to what you are talking about as do from unwanted effects from drugs and foods. * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00041Date: 07/06/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 10:24am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Asthma' Contrib [1/2] AF> Where is your comprehension of English? Did I say up there that nervous AF> problems are said to be the ONLY cause. If you do some meaningful research in areas that keep decent statistics, you are going to learn that allegies go hand in hand with both mental illness and addiction. And show up in those patients when they are properly tested. That is, if you are really interested in learning something. AF> Actually Bruker is considered one of the leading experts on AF> nutrition-based ailments in Germany and the study of his literature AF> is demanded by every university which teaches nutrition. The ailment is there before the nutrition becomes faulty. The nutrition can make it better or worse. * SLMR 2.1a * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00042Date: 07/02/97 From: OLIVIA STANFORD Time: 11:57am \/To: ROYCE SHARP (Read 1 times) Subj: acupuncture Re: acupuncture > > able to eliminate pain and suffering through a "non-traditional" > > method, The acupuncture topic caught my attention as I have been experiencing constant pain since jan 97 in my hands,arms,and shoulders from a car accident that no one can explain why.The bone scans detect hot spots in all these areas,but orthopedic doctors haven't been able to determine why,a nerve test from elbows to wrist shows no nerve damage,blood test didn't pick up any signs of possible arthritis,steroids did little but make me very irritable,inflammatory drugs have done nothing,Phyiscal therapy made it worse,and here I sit in pain,taking one pain medication after another 5-8 times a day.The pain I endure depends on what I do through-out the day. as in phyiscally.If I do nothing but type I have pain on a scale of 1-10 about a 6.Laundry=10+. Would accupuncture help me.Although I wasn't able to determine the cause of your knee pain,I'm hoping someone can lead me in some direction as medical doctors are just costing me money. Olivia --- VFIDO 6.20.00 Gamma Candidate 10 * Origin: A Horse of a Different Color (1:112/64) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00043Date: 06/29/97 From: OWEN DARE Time: 07:33pm \/To: STEVE LANCASTER (Read 1 times) Subj: River City BBS Drop by my new BBS Running on PowerBBS, a windows GUI system also accepts ansi/ascii callers ... Hi, my name is Annie Key. Please don't hit me! --- Ezycom V1.48g0 03fa00cf * Origin: Pathfinder BBS, Home of POWERPLAY!!!! (3:640/249) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00044Date: 07/01/97 From: KAREN LONG Time: 10:12am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Lost Feed Hi Jane! JK> I'm trying to. The Glucosamine and Chonroitin is working, I think. What are these medications? I've not heard of them before! JK> I have a lot less pain these days, am now weak and exercising in ord JK> to get some of the strength back I had before the arthritis or JK> fibromyalgia really got bad. I've got fibromyalgia as well...the summer months aren't as bad on my body, but the cold months are and I find myself many times simply unable to move the pain gets so bad. The one thing that really bothers with this Fibro other than the pain, is that when I bath or perspire, I break out in hives. I'm constantly itching on my back and shoulders. Being in the sun more has also caused a terrible rash on my face and I can't seem to get rid of it! I usually try to only be outside before noon, or after 6 in the evening, but none-the-less, the sun doesn't agree with me! I also have arthritis and a pinched sciatic nerve, along with diabetes. I do the best I can...I have too! I have two small children, and my youngest (7) has Epilepsy, plus I'm home schooling her and keeping them about as busy during the summer months as they are me! To catch you up on my brother-in-law...the one addicted to prescription medication...it appears all hell broke loose at the house and he went into a rage for days, abusing my husband's sister and her girls. The girls consequently decided they couldn't take anymore, and packed all their clothes in a trash bag and ran away. My mother-in-law found them (thank God) walking alongside the road several miles from the house. They are now living with their real dad who also abused them (we believe sexually), and they want to live with him. Guess they figure they are more able to deal with a non-addicted pervert than they are a drug addict. Their mother won't leave this guy for her girls...She's in total denial of the problem and blames the problems on stress and on everyone else...it's a sad thing to want to be with ANY man that bad that you are willing to give up your children, especially if he's abusive. This type of thing seems to run in my husband's family, at least with the women. His other sister also left and for 2 weeks lied to the family saying she was in a battered women's shelter. By the fourth day, I was sure she was lying because no one came to get the children from the home. She lived at home with her Mom and Dad, her abusive husband, and her two children. She too met a guy, and just left! I tried telling them she was NOT in a shelter, but lying about it, and that more than likely she was at a friends house or her boyfriends house, but my husband's mother didn't think she would lie about something like that. Well...you know Jane, when you go into a Battered Women's Shelter, and no one from Social Services comes to get your children, and you get a phone call saying you need a suitcase packed for ya because the Shelter doesn't provide clothes, red flags and bells go off all over the place. Thus far, she's had no contact with her children. Their father, whom abuses them as well and they have a great amount of fear of him, as does the entire Long Clan, is now quite easily getting custody of the children. When both the children were born, he wouldn't allow their mother to put his last name on the birth certificate, so they have their mother's last name "Long". He's never contributed one dime to the household in the 20 years he's lived there, but my husband's father and mother never kicked him out due to fear. Now he decides to go to the courthouse and file for custody of the children, and get their last name changed to his. He's in the courthouse and the clerk tells him he has to have his wife sign the papers in order for them to proceed. He asks "How can I do that when I don't even know where she's at? She's been gone a month." Just then a judge comes around the corner and asks what the problem is. Rusty (the kids father) proceeds to explain the situation to him, the judge takes the paper, walks over to a typewriter, and fills out this paper. He tells Rusty that he needs to put a statement in the paper stating that his wife needs to return home, or he will gain full custody of the children, and that she needs to sign this paper. If she fails to show in 30 days, the children are automatically his. Can you believe this? Neither of them are fit to be parents and I find it deplorable that Rusty will not have to be found a fit father in order to gain custody of these two children. He's a drug addict, an alcholic, he hasn't a job, he's verbally, emotionally, and most of all, physically abusive to the children, and the grandparents. Here's a man who is so evil, he could pass as the devil himself. His wife isn't evil, she's just so brain dead from smoking pot like it's going out of style (about $100.00 every two days worth), that she's neglectful. She thinks by buying the kids material objects that will keep them happy. My mother-in-law has put up with verbal and emotional abuse for 45 years, they've sat in the livingroom and listened to Rusty beating the children and his wife...and did nothing. :( Too bad there isn't an alternative drug to shape people up who don't know any better! --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #246 * Origin: The Other Side * Massillon, OH * 330-832-0565 (1:2216/77.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00045Date: 07/02/97 From: MARK PROBERT Time: 08:24am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Thanks ALEX VASAUSKAS was thinking about marijuana/men breast canc and keyed into cyberspace: Just a note to say thanks for some well researched and documented posts. A refreshing change. However, methinks a fruitless effort. But, thanks just the same. ===>The Voice of Reason<=== mark.probert@juno.com --- * CMPQwk #1.4 * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: PC BBS : Massapequa, NY : (516)795-5874 (1:2619/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00046Date: 07/02/97 From: LAURA THOMAS Time: 09:09pm \/To: MELISSA LEVITT (Read 1 times) Subj: sores Glad I could help. I always like to pass along good information. I stop people in eckerds and tell them about it. That is if I see them buying Canker medicine. Anyhow....Happy 4th of July Laura --- PCBoard/2 15.30 * Origin: The 128th Parallel Seminole,Fl 28.8k 813/397-1339 (1:3603/210) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EBC00047Date: 06/30/97 From: ALAN FLETCHER Time: 04:22pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: A Fact Or Two.... Hi Jane, > AF> > Got an American military base handy? See if the medical folks there > can > AF> > be persuaded to show you the list of common diseases that our Air > Force > AF> > medics at McChord must be aware of when receiving injured or ill folks > AF> > from other nations. > AF> I know all about that Jane as I was on a joint U.K./U.S. Air > AF> Force base (Wildenrath in Germany) back in the late 60s. You have > That information is growing moss. You need an update into what is going > on now, decades after penicillin and the other wonder antibiotics have > screwed things up royally. Neither the diseases not the countries where they come from have changed much since then. > You keep insisting that only sick people get sick and I know that this > is just not true. I keep insisting that mostly UNHEALTHY people get sick, i.e. get sick rather than being sick from the word go due to some hereditary ailment. And I keep insisting that the majority of illnesses are basically due to disturbed bacterial flora in the intestines (these flora represent the largest part of our immune system and are just as (some claim even more) important than the lymphocytes and killer cells etc. in the bloodstream. Alan --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Bear's Cave (2:2461/161.5)