--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00002Date: 06/28/97 From: JASON HUFF Time: 07:32pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: A Drink Or 2 A Day JK> JH>BM> JK> you would know that there is some genetic protection against alc JK> JH>BM> JK> that the Native Americans have had it only for the past 2-300 ye JK> JH>JK> WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!! The reason that there JK> JH>JK> such a high rate of alcoholism among the Native Americans is that th JK> JH>JK> whites introduced alcohol to them along with smallpox and cavalry JK> JH>JK> bullets. JK> JK> JH>that first part you say there is some genetic protection for native JK> JH>americans, JK> JH>but they currently do, and always have had a problem with alcohol. and JK> JH>don't understand your rebuttal to Bob's comment at all. how does the wh JK> JH>introducing alcohol have anything at all to do with their supposed genet JK> JH>protection? JK> JK> I took out some of the verbage and left the salient points. If a group JK> has only had alcohol in its culture for the past 2-300 years, it hasn't JK> had time to build up any racial immunity to it. For example, we have no JK> racial immunity to cocaine or heroin, two drugs which are being used to JK> bring our nation down. JK> JK> The white race has had alcohol for less time than the orientals who have JK> had it for thousands of years. That is why they tend to have the most JK> immunity TO THEIR OWN FORMS OF THE STUFF! If they get into alcohol made JK> from grains they are not used to, then they also get into trouble. JK> JK> The Jews have had alcohol for many years also and most are immune to the JK> disease. They also use it moderately. JK> JK> JH>i'll look forward to reading your reply, and clearing things up for e. JK> JK> If this doesn't work, let me know. correct me if i am wrong, but didn't you say in earlier posts, that the ative americans have a genetic protction against alcoholism? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: DiGiTaL OnLiNe MaGaZiNe - [409]8Ext-237 (1:3811/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00003Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Acupuncture MP>JK>MP>AF> > And once again, Alan, I do hope that you never ever prove me MP>JK>MP>AF> > right by contacting tertiary syphillis. MP>JK>MP>Jane, no one can contract tertiary syphilis. MP>JK>According to Alan, he would not know if he ever contacted the disease MP>JK>in the first place. So for him, having a case of tertiary syphillis MP>JK>would be something coming out of the blue. And according to him, MP>JK>impossible because he is so physically healthy. MP>JK>So what would you call that? MP>A VERY BIG surprise? At least. And one that the victim might never, ever realize * SLMR 2.1a * All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00004Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: WAYNE YOUNG (Read 1 times) Subj: Add Etc. WY>Rezoning may take away your sanctuary, Jane, but it may increase WY>your property value many folds. If your 10 acres is subdivided WY>into city lots 50 by 100 feet as my cottage in Bellingham is, WY>you're sitting on a gold mine. However, money will not buy peace WY>and serenity, although you maybe able to buy a small island. I live inside a river canyon, and, I am going to get very, very wet if this insane development goes through. The real estate developers around here came up from CA where there was desert land. They insist upon building the same kind of buildings on very wet soil. They insist upon keeping the water from going back into the acquifer with asphalt and concrete where trees and grass once grew. That means we have surface water flooding along with a decrease in the level of water in our wells. Which leads to the burning question: "Where do the idiots who don't understand all of this plan on getting their water in the next century?" * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00005Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Adhd MP>JK>Thanks for proving what I said in this one essentially true: MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>JK>Finding a virus is just about an impossible job. They are MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>JK>very, very tiny when compared to other microbes. I had a MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>JK>researcher as a patient one time at Swedish who told me MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>JK>what had to be done. It is worse than looking for a MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>JK>needle in a haystack! At least the needle can be seen. MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>Jane, I deal with a virus every day. Your information is MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>woefully out of date. The use of various types of electron MP>JK>MP>JK>MP>microscopes, etc. has made the job quite easy. MP>JK>MP>JK>I was told that the virus itself isn't seen, the "shadow" it MP>JK>MP>JK>makes is. If this is now untrue, what is? And why does it still MP>JK>MP>JK>take a long time to find any "new" virus? MP>JK>MP>It is an electron image. Sort of like a "shadow". MP>JK>The virus itself is not seen, which is what I was told. MP>JK>MP>As for finding a new virus, I have no solid experience. My bugs MP>JK>MP>are well known, and really are easy to find. They are quite MP>JK>MP>plentiful. MP>JK>MP>However, to find a new virus, you first have to find a location MP>JK>MP>where they might be. The area scanned by a e-scope is so small it MP>JK>MP>makes anything, even the area scanned, hard to find. MP>JK>In short, they are hard to find, which is also what I was told. MP>JK>So why is my information so out of date? MP>Because it is YOUR information, gathered from sitting on hard chairs in MP>hard science courses in the 1940's. Nope. It was gained from a man who did this sort of work in the 1970's, late 1970's. And it has since been validated by a man who is doing this kind of work today and has posted in this conference. Just because you have lived a dull and rather uninteresting life and remained in one place doesn't mean that others stay put and do not encounter new people, new ideas, and new experiences. * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00006Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Alcoholics MP>JK>MP>JK>According to the paper I laboriously typed in for you, Dr. MP>JK>MP>JK>Charles Bates, in Olympia WA would say this is due to food MP>JK>MP>JK>allergies. Any history of that in the kid's family tree? MP>JK>MP>But ADHD has been shown not to be caused by food allergies. In MP>JK>MP>fact, the diagnostic method promulgated by ADHD experts, and MP>JK>MP>sanctioned by DSM III specifically require that any other possible MP>JK>MP>cause of the behavior be ruled out. IOW, a kid with ADHD has MP>JK>MP>already been shown not to have allergies. ADHD is what is MP>JK>MP>"leftover" when everything else is ruled out. So you will only believe those who agree with you? What a narrow, dull life you must lead. * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear disk you can seek forever --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00007Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Bee Venom MP>JK>If you are speaking of bee venom, there is some concern about this MP>JK>one as those who have a marked allergy can go into anaphalectic shock MP>JK>and die rapidly if not near an emergency room. MP>JK>There are those who keep a syringe of adrenalin on them at all times MP>JK>when playing golf or engaged in other outdoor activities in order to MP>JK>live through an insect sting. MP>What you are referring to is an epi-pen. It also works quite well for VX MP>and GB. But you have to be quick. Very, very quick, which is why it is in a syringe and ready to go instantly. * SLMR 2.1a * I think therefore I am not a REpublican. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00008Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: JOE DASHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Cancer Virus JD>I know that feline leukemia is a contagious virus so maybe some human cancer JD>are also! My cat just got the vaccine for feline leukemia! Very good point. * SLMR 2.1a * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00009Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Fda Acts MP>JK>And did YOU know that in the case of the BCG vaccine for TB that one MP>JK>bad batch got through? This resulted in the vaccine not being used MP>JK>by many doctors. It is used in other countries and by our BIA MP>JK>clinics. MP>I am not too familiar with the BCG vaccine. I know my friend Eric was MP>leaving for med school in Grenoble many moons ago and had to take a TB MP>shot in his axilla. It hurt him for two weeks afterwards. And he did not MP>like my jokes about one-armed French doctors. The Native Americans have had this vaccine for years in their clinics. MP>JK>Trytophan is produced in other places besides China. I have always MP>JK>thought it very strange that the same president who pardoned North MP>JK>for bringing in drugs would ban the one thing that was claimed to MP>JK>work a miracle in detoxing patients from that same drug. MP>I met Ollie's unit in RVN many moons ago. He had gotten them into MP>trouble with a regiment of NVA regulars. I guess some things never MP>change. What upset me about him was that he showed that he did not have MP>one ounce of loyalty to his CinC in his body. He is supposedly a fundamental Christian with loyalty only to his church's idea of religion. God save us from such in high places again. * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00010Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana AV>This is not a rational argument for precluding research into the AV>medical benefits of marijuana. The "research into the medical benefits of marijuana" is touted by those who are determined to find an excuse for the drug of their choice in all too many posts I see. AV>Moreover, this contains two misleading implications: the idea that AV>anyone is advocating the recreational use of marijuana or any other AV>drug for children, and the myth that marijuana use causes people to want AV>other drugs more than if they had not tried marijuana. Neither of these AV>is correct. Then YOU explain WHY many of those who start out using alcohol and marijuna switch to amphetamines and cocaine or other drugs and end up in a psych ward by the time they are 20? * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00011Date: 06/29/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:19am \/To: SARAH DURIS (Read 1 times) Subj: Middle Ear Fluids SD>I am currently eliminating all known allergens, then I will begin testing SD>for unknown...I have some allergies, but I don't know if he has them. SD>I'm eliminating them just in case. He has been described as atopic, which SD>means high risk for allergies and asthma (and also ADD). This runs in my SD>family. So far, asthma symptoms only show up when he has had cow's milk. There is a wealth of information out there on the Rotation Diet. It can be done in various ways and it works. If you cannot find anything, let me know. I've been using something for years which was developed by a nutritionist named Sally Rockwell in Seattle. SD> JK> He can also have a blood test which will pick up some of them, but ot SD> JK> all of the food allergies. SD>I've been told to wait on the blood test, since he is so young, still. SD>Also, not to bother testing for food allergens, just environmental ones. SD>It is preferable to test through the diet...eliminate the suspect for SD>certain period of time, then reintroduce and watch for reaction. He is young enough that a good Rotation Diet will take care of the marginal problems. The glaring ones, such as wheat or milk, you can get rid of. SD>We're not heavy with sugar and sweets. When we lived with either of my SD>parents, they each would sneak him pop and garbage behind my back (do the SD>grandparent thing). I don't bring any of this stuff into my house, but SD>if he sees it elsewhere...So he may be a closet sugar-addict. I've recently SD>pulled him out of daycare, so I'll be able to more closely monitor his SD>food. Good. Then you can find out for yourself what he eats. SD> JK> All of this and more is the first step towards figuring out for SD> JK> yourself what you can do to elimiate the fluid problem and much of it SD> JK> is not known to all doctors. SD>When we first started this 2 years ago, I quickly learned that doctors are SD>more interested in treating the symptoms than eliminating the cause. All SD>they wanted to do was prescribe antibiotics and alupent (asthma medication). Yup. And its your fault if that doesn't work. * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline is umop apisdn --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255)