--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00107Date: 06/27/97 From: STEVE KEMP Time: 11:14pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana [2/3] [01/15] JK>AV>Right. It is prudent to remain as ignorant as possible so that JK>AV>those who have invested careers and money and reputations in JK>AV>proclaiming the virtues of prohibition can avoid being faced JK>AV>with facts contrary to their emotional, "reefer madness" JK>AV>assertions. As evidenced by the demonstrated harm and failure of JK>AV>Prohibition I with respect to alcohol, we certainly don't want any JK>AV>evidence to weaken Prohibition II. Accurate information might JK>AV>succeed in adversely influencing the mass of people who refuse to JK>AV>learn from the lessons of Prohibition I. JK>Just one little thing wrong with thise theory............kids who JK>start out with pot and alcohol end up in mental units for treatent of JK>cocaine and ampetamine problems at the tender age of 20-22 in many JK>cases. Actually they tend to start with milk, and then move up to cookies. --- * CMPQwk #1.42* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: CENTRAL PARK WEST - FOLSOM CA - 916.351.1476 PPI 33.6! (1:203/1476) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00108Date: 06/27/97 From: STEVE KEMP Time: 11:24pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Marijuana/men Breast Canc JK>Making brownies with the marijuana in it is supposed to be one clever JK>method of circumventing the Federal and state laws against its use. How's that. Brownies with pot in them are still illegal. --- * CMPQwk #1.42* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: CENTRAL PARK WEST - FOLSOM CA - 916.351.1476 PPI 33.6! (1:203/1476) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00109Date: 06/27/97 From: STEVE KEMP Time: 11:31pm \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: marijuana/men breast canc JK>SK>It's not illegal in California if you need it for medical JK>SK>purposes. The small amount needed to ease the ill effects of JK>SK>chemo-therpy when smoked is hardly harmful to the lungs or ones JK>SK>health, either. So, I'd dare say Gayle is all wet on all counts. JK>SK>Well, eating it is O.K. Although the *buzz* is a little long JK>SK>lasting. Thus, why over medicate. This is the same reason that I'm JK>SK>against Marinol. A couple of hits off a joint is preferable to JK>SK>taking a pill because it can be done as needed and give immediate JK>SK>relief of nausea. JK>Are you then saying you are defending your drug of choice? It would be my drug of choice if it weren't so damned expensive. It IS the safest drug ever used for recreational purposes. It's being placed with Heroin, Cocaine, and Meth is as ridiculous and arbitrary placement, and is hypocritical in the that alcohol and tobacco are supported by our government...these "drugs" are far more detrimental to society. But, actually, with this being AltMed and all...I was speaking from personal experience about how smoked Marijuana is a more effective remedy for the nausea that often accompanies Chemo-therapy than Marinol. But you knew that. No need for snide innuendo. --- * CMPQwk #1.42* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: CENTRAL PARK WEST - FOLSOM CA - 916.351.1476 PPI 33.6! (1:203/1476) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00110Date: 06/28/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 10:12am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Acupuncture > I have honored your request regarding those issues, etc. I > will not post > further. Read all of my posts in chronological sequence. > Thank you. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00111Date: 06/18/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:17pm \/To: JOE DASHER (Read 1 times) Subj: cancer virus JD>I know that feline leukemia is a contagious virus so maybe some human cancer JD>are also! My cat just got the vaccine for feline leukemia! We have a habit of treating our pets very well in this nation,sometimes better than we do our children. That also goes for feeding. * SLMR 2.1a * All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00112Date: 06/18/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:22pm \/To: KAREN LONG (Read 1 times) Subj: Lost Feed KL>If you had sent any replies to any of my messages, I apologize for not KL>responding...our net feed was cut unexpectedly, and we were unable to KL>connect to another feed for about two weeks! I just wanted to let you KL>know what had happened, and I'm sorry if I missed your responses...I was KL>truly looking forward to them! :( Lost a bunch myself not too long ago after I tried to install a second hard drive. Those small black things with the tiny holes in them with wires attached just sort of dropped off the mother board and I didn't know exactly where they'd come from............... Did make one huge mess of this thing. However, it is much easier to fix a computer than it is the inside of someone's head. I got the message, loud and clear, that I really don't know all that much about either:). KL>Anyhow...mail is flowing again, at least for awhile! KL>Stay Well! I'm trying to. The Glucosamine and Chonroitin is working, I think. I have a lot less pain these days, am now weak and exercising in order to get some of the strength back I had before the arthritis or fibromyalgia really got bad. * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear disk you can seek forever - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00113Date: 06/18/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:56pm \/To: KENNETH J. RENAUD (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Witches, Druids You are asking about the oldest form of alternative medicine known to mankind in your post.......and there are no easy answers. In this nation, it gets tangled up with parlor displays and Bridie Murphy events, rarely gets to the level of Edgar Casey and his work. Sybil Leek, on page 107 of her book, "Diary of a Witch" has an entire chapter on psychic healing. In this same chapter she describes Black Magic and the damage it does, warning the wise to avoid it at all costs. Sybil Leek was born in England, into a family which has kept the practice of witchcraft alive and well for centuries. The library of congress number: 68-18514, copyrighted in 1968 and first published by Prentice-Hall. My copy is a Signet books pocket book edition published in 1969. KJR> JK> Thank heaven most of England doesn't support that view! The small KJR> JK> office in Whitehall during WWII which dealt with the witches, druids, KJR> JK> and others still practising the ancient religions in the British Isles KJR> JK> would never have been possible in Washington, D.C. Nor would the KJR> JK> alliance between the Masonic Order and those who have kept alive the KJR> JK> ancient knowledge that led Joan of Arc to the Dauphine. Joan of Arc is thought by some with excellent knowledge of psi powers such as astral projection and telepathy to have been led to the Dauphine by humans who were highly adept in their use. Books about the Knights Templar order in Europe might provide further information about that part of history. KJR> JK> The Allies would not have been able to accurately predict every KJR> JK> military move Hitler was about to make and learn to counter him KJR> JK> effectively. Nor would the chain of telepaths have been set up from KJR> JK> England, across the channel, across Europe, and into wherever he s. I had a copy of "Sword of Charlemange" at one time, a documentary written about a man who was raised in Germany, escaped to England, and worked with the folks there to bring Hitler down. According to this book, Hitler was obsessed with a sword that had belonged to Charlemange, believed that anyone who owned it would one day rule the world. We had it briefly at the end of WWII. It came from Austria, I believe, and may have gone back there. Another book I read was a novel with a lot of similar information. Both books mention the ring of telepaths that was set up from England to Germany to relay information. The Knights of the Garter have a distinctive purple color for their garter. It was this that was thrown on the deck of Drake's ship by Queen Elizabeth as a sign that he should convene the same folks in England at that time. He did, and this is credited with the storm that kept the Spanish Armada from English shores. A "cone of power" has been set up around the British Isles twice in recorded history, the second time during WWII. To get this into the alternative medicine realm, "Psychic Powers Behind the Iron Curtain" was written by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder in 1970, published originally by Prentice-Hall, Inc., and later by Bantam Books. It mentions auras, or the colors that some folks can see around the head. These are used for diagnostic purposes by those who first can see them and second by those who have been taught to interpret them. I worked with one LPN who used them effectively to let her know which drugs someone presented themselves to the door at detox with. Their second book, "Handbook of Psychic Discoveries" was copyrighted in 1974, published by Berkley Medallion Book with a Library of Congress number: 73-88532. In the back of that one are several references to sources of information both in this nation and in Europe. Some minds are able to harness and use the electromagnetic fields around us. Others may or may not realize they exist unless they are shamans. KJR> JK> There is much in this world that you cannot see, smell, or taste, KJR> JK> Alan. KJR> JK> Living as you do is like eating all food without spices. KJR> Is there any books docuementing these cases, My Wife is very interested KJR> in learning more about this. Thanks KJR> JK> KJR> JK> -!- JCQWK KJR> JK> ! Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) KJR>... This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10 ~~~ ReneWave v2.00 KJR>--- Renegade v05-11 Exp KJR> * Origin: Soap Suds =STLMO= (314)771-7954 (1:100/250) * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00114Date: 06/28/97 From: STEPHEN BOWYER Time: 11:11am \/To: DIA SPRIGGS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Genetic Religion??!!!! WY> sooner the better! You should stop talking to me now, I can't help DS> I think you both should stop talking to one another...NOW....if DS> you want to continue these name calling childish arguments..take DS> it to email... OK. BTW I sent you an netmail a few weeks ago requesting a copy of the rules, and I've not had a reply to that message... Thanks. Ste the Sysop - Bredbury BBS (0161 4306320) 2:250/133 @ FIDO fax - 0161 666 8058 voice chat anytime/anyone - 0161 666 8057 ... Bredbury BBS is the *BEST* BBS in Bredbury! --- * Origin: Bredbury BBS (0161 430 6320) (2:250/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00000Date: 06/28/97 From: JASON HUFF Time: 07:29pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Soy Products MP> Where did blaming parents come into it? I do not blame my parents. Both MP> of my parents were children of the Holocaust, and the long term readers MP> of this conference know who I feel is accountable. However, I do not MP> wallow in it, and I got on with my life. Like my parents tried to do. if i'm not mistaken, this wasn't even directed at you, in fact, i was just making a statement, i don't know the people here well enough to know who blames what on their childhood and parents. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: DiGiTaL OnLiNe MaGaZiNe - [409]8Ext-237 (1:3811/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAZ00001Date: 06/28/97 From: JASON HUFF Time: 07:31pm \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: A Drink Or 2 A Day MP> Hi Jason. Do not hold your breath. Jane and clarification are mutually MP> exclusive. well, i may be new, but i've sort of caught that. no offense jane, maybe you could prove me (and the rest of them) wrong --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: DiGiTaL OnLiNe MaGaZiNe - [409]8Ext-237 (1:3811/350)