--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00007Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:15am \/To: KANE GUY (Read 1 times) Subj: Adhd KG> JK> I'd love to chat on about some other things, however that wouldn't be KG> JK> nice at all. KG>[Puzzled look ON] ????? We are supposed to stay on topic in this conference, alternative medicine. KG> JK> What I will ask about are the folk medicine practices that KG> JK> may still be going on in your part of the world. Are there any KG> JK> herbalists left, for instance, or others who have some of the ancient KG> JK> Celtic knowledge? KG>There are a fair few herbalists around, even some of my family are into KG>AltMed. One of my cousins is a Hypnotist, one of my aunts practices KG>Reflexology, her x-husband is a 'Healer' and most of us use some herbal KG>remedies and 'Old Fashioned' cures. KG>I would also imagine there are a few still practising the Old Celtic Way but KG>I don't know of any personally. It would appear that the knowledge has been passed down to the present generation. That is great. KG> All the best! KG> Kane Guy E-mail: kaneguy@cableinet.co.uk KG>--- Terminate 4.00 KG> * Origin: The NEW Terminate will -=> FAX <=- almost anything! (2:440/601.16 * SLMR 2.1a * Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00008Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:21am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Adhd AF> Our main bone of contention with each other Jane (that is why I AF> snipped the rest) is that you still believe that an allergy is AF> an ailment..i.e. rather than a symptom. Using your logic, AF> everybody should have hayfeaver etc.. Using hayfeaver as an AF> (extremely common) example, how long have these species of pollen AF> been around Jane (I have asked you this before I believe)? Alan, this simply belies your contention that it allergies are not a disease. If something has been around for a long time, then some folks have developed an immunity to it and others have developed a sensitivity to it. Use alcohol and cocaine as glaring examples....the Chinese had both heroin and alcohol long before the rest of the world and are not as affected as other races are. The native American had alcohol for around 300 years and is devestated by it. Cocaine comes from South America where the cola leaves were used to offset a lack of protein in the food. The natives have a very high incidence of hypoglycemia with a high rate of murder and other mayhem. That was in a book by a criminologist, Alexander Strauss, that someone fell in love with and "borrowed" from me. It did not come back. This is one of the reasons why your vegetarian crap falls on deaf ears as I know what happens to humans when animal meats are with held from the diet and sufficient protein is not available. To put it mildly, they tend to be a wee bit odd. * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear disk you can seek forever - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00009Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:22am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: Adhd SK>JK>Mark, this contradicts what you said above and is essentially the SK>JK>same damn thing that the researcher at Swedish Hospital told me SK>JK>several years ago! That new virus(es?) (i?) (what is the correct SK>JK>plural of the critters?) are hard to find. SK>Considering that new virii are found nearly every year with new flu SK>strains I find that laughable. The "new" ones are a form of those that are known. The virus will mutate rapidly. The researchers have a pretty good idea of what they are looking for. Those such as Ebola are something else again. * SLMR 2.1a * I think therefore I am not a REpublican. - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00010Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:23am \/To: DAVID WILSON (Read 1 times) Subj: Adhd DW>>ago! That new virus(es?) (i?) (what is the correct plural of the DW>>critters?) are hard to find. DW>"viruses" if you are speaking English, "viri", if Latin. Didn't like Latin, will stick to the English. Thanks. * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline is umop apisdn - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00011Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:25am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Alcoholics I wrote this and I am tired of putting my initials into your posts: AF> > I'm also very convinced there is a genetic link to schizophrenia (that AF> > one was found in England after the psychiatrists there got tired of our AF> > diagnoses over here in folks with the same heritage), the Bipolar AF> > disorder, and those who are convinced that England won the American AF> > Revolution :). AF> You evaded the issue entirely here Jane. ;-) Nope. You are trying to tell me that there is no genetic link to any mental health disease and I am telling you that I know damn well there is. There is plenty of research in Europe on this and other subjects which you refuse to look into because of your attitude. That is the reason the British Empire is as small as it is today. The natives got sick and tired of the attitude. * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00012Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:20am \/To: GAYLE LICARI (Read 1 times) Subj: Bee Venom GL>I have heard it is good for arthritis too. gayle If you are speaking of bee venom, there is some concern about this one as those who have a marked allergy can go into anaphalectic shock and die rapidly if not near an emergency room. There are those who keep a syringe of adrenalin on them at all times when playing golf or engaged in other outdoor activities in order to live through an insect sting. * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00013Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:21am \/To: WAYNE YOUNG (Read 1 times) Subj: Bee Venom WY> GL> I have heard it is good for arthritis too. gayle WY>Yes, apparently bee venom is made up of protein. WY>Some other good stuffs for arthritis are fish and fiber. WY>On the other hand, a good way to neutralize the sting is to rub a WY>wet aspirin on the bite, provided the victim is NOT allergic or WY>sensitive to aspirin. That won't be fast enough if someone goes into anaphylectic shock from the venom. The marked allergy to bee venom can lead to death in a short time if not near an emergency room. * SLMR 2.1a * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00014Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:36am \/To: TY MEISSNER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Bill White TM> I don't think there are any magical wonder drugs or herbs or rystals TM> that will let the blind see, the lame walk, and the dying find new TM> life. I think many of the illnesses from which we suffer are the TM> results of human activity and man made substances pervading our TM> environment. I think modern food production methods are profoundly TM> unhealthy. We, collectively are poisoning ourselves and though we TM> know what we are doing, and what the ultimate cost of our actions, e TM> just don't care to change our ways. Just got a download today from Peter Montague: peter@rachel.clark.net about toxic substances in the enviornment. This is from the Enviornmental Research Foundation in Anapolis. TOXINS and VIOLENT CRIME "Pollution causes people to commit violent crimes--homicide, aggravated assual, sexual assault and robbery--according to new research by Roger D. Msters and co-workers at Dartmouth College. " This article is well worth the subscription to his newsletter and agrees with what Alexander Strauss, a criminologist who used to be in Tacoma years ago, published in his book. I had it at one time, it is out of print now, and someone borrowed it without returning it. I guard my books today and won't let them out of the house. * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00015Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:36am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Bill White TM> I don't think there are any magical wonder drugs or herbs or rystals TM> that will let the blind see, the lame walk, and the dying find new TM> life. I think many of the illnesses from which we suffer are the TM> results of human activity and man made substances pervading our TM> environment. I think modern food production methods are profoundly TM> unhealthy. We, collectively are poisoning ourselves and though we TM> know what we are doing, and what the ultimate cost of our actions, e TM> just don't care to change our ways. Just got a download today from Peter Montague: peter@rachel.clark.net about toxic substances in the enviornment. This is from the Enviornmental Research Foundation in Anapolis. TOXINS and VIOLENT CRIME "Pollution causes people to commit violent crimes--homicide, aggravated assual, sexual assault and robbery--according to new research by Roger D. Msters and co-workers at Dartmouth College. " This article is well worth the subscription to his newsletter and agrees with what Alexander Strauss, a criminologist who used to be in Tacoma years ago, published in his book. I had it at one time, it is out of print now, and someone borrowed it without returning it. I guard my books today and won't let them out of the house. * SLMR 2.1a * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAY00016Date: 06/17/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 01:30am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Cancer AF> Don't know why you replied to me rather than the gentleman who wrote AF> in the first place. I am not interested in psychiatry and certainly AF> not in any form of diagnostic medicine. I am interested in health AF> and thus in prevention and bodily cure. IOW I am not interested in AF> "broken brains" but how they got "broken" in the first place and AF> how to prevent this happening. Neither am I interested in the AF> treatment (but maybe in the prevention) of genetic defects. IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO READ WHAT ANDREASEN and other authors are into these days, you would learn that they see the brain as a well designed machine without all of the mumbo jumbo that goes along with standard psychiatry. * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1)