--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAN00057Date: 06/19/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:42am \/To: PAUL MICHAELSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Ssri PM> JK> Those with schizophrenia can tolerate a drug such as Prozac which is PM> JK> designed to LOWER the amount of serotonin, those with the Bipolar PM> JK> disorder and/or alcoholism with a lower than normal supply AT BIRTH f PM> JK> these crucial neurotransmitters, cannot. PM>I thought Prozac was designed to increase the amount of serotonin in the PM>brain, by lowering the rate that it is reabsorbed there after it is PM>made. Isn't Prozac a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI)? From what I have seen, it lowers it. And, I never, ever want to be in my Mazda pickup again with a Bipolar alcoholic who is wigged out on the stuff. * SLMR 2.1a * On a clear disk you can seek forever --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAN00058Date: 06/19/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:42am \/To: SARAH DURIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Surgery SD> JK> Pardon me for asking, but if his hearing is impaired, why are you SD> JK> delaying the surgery? SD>His hearing is impaired in only one ear--the one filled with fluid. I SD>prefer to avoid surgery, since putting in tubes can also affect long- SD>term hearing. If both ears were filled and affecting his hearing or SD>he was in pain, I would do the surgery because it would be a lesser SD>of evils. As it stands now, the hearing (or lack of it) doesn't seem SD>to be affecting him overly much. Besides, the Ear, Nose and Throat SD>Specialist recommended waiting until winter. He doesn't put tubes SD>in unless the child is in pain, or the child can't hear at all. If he looses the hearing in one ear, and then gets fluid in the other ear, then what? * SLMR 2.1a * Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAN00059Date: 06/19/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 09:42am \/To: TERRY RICKS (Read 2 times) Subj: Virus TR> > Thank you for this post. I'm going to print it out and save it as it s TR> > the best short version of this subject I have seen to date. TR> > TR> > Jane Kelley TR>You're quite welcome, Jane. I hope that I can be of help in the future I hope you jump in again if there are future posts on the virus and how it can or cannot be detected. Most of us do not have electron microscopes around the house or at work and we don't know the first thing about them. * SLMR 2.1a * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAP00000Date: 06/19/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:07am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Genetic Religion??!!!! I'm not tolerating the whole thread. None of this is alternative medicine. I have asked, begged, pleaded and reasoned with all of you over and over again and still it seems that it can't get into some heads this is NOT the place to talk about racial, sexual, religious preferences etc. This echo is about ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE...PERIOD. There is a great invention called the internet and email that is readily available to everyone and people can spend all the time they want writing copious messages about whatever they wish to rant and rave about. I suggest people start using that media. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAP00001Date: 06/19/97 From: DIA SPRIGGS Time: 08:03am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: lucy Where is the Altmed thread here? Is there any Jewish, Russian or any other mention of such alternative medicine? If you want to talk about non altmed things, please use email. --- D'Bridge 1.30/002111 * Origin: THE SOURCE BBS Miami, Fla 305-624-2190 135/68 (1:135/68) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAP00002Date: 06/07/97 From: LAURENT DE FONTENAY Time: 06:42pm \/To: GAYLE LICARI (Read 2 times) Subj: marijuana/men breast cancer Hi Gayle! On 05-Jun-97, 19:48:32, Gayle Licari wrote to All: GL> breast cancer. Don't smoke marjuana it is harmful for your lungs GL> and your health. Cooking it is not good either It is illegal too. Sure, I'd certainly go with all of that... But cooking the stuff! Why would one want to do that? Stay well! Laurent .!. Why yes, they are Bugle Boy beans. --- Terminate 4.00 * Origin: Laurie's Realm, Cape Town, South Africa (5:7102/111.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAQ00000Date: 06/20/97 From: MEG UMANS Time: 09:14am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: FDA Acts -> dead in the L-tryptophan fiasco and that there have been 18 deaths -> and Fiasco is a good description: it was a one-time event. The batch of tryptophan that caused damage and death was manufactured in a facility (in Japan) whose machinery was contaminated during the manufacture of that batch. The people harmed by taking it (my sister was one of them) who survived, and some of the survivors of the dead, wrote to the FDA to protest the removal of tryptophan from the open market. It wasn't tryptophan that did the damage: it was contamination. --- PCBoard (R) v15.23 (OS/2) 5 * Origin: Exeter's Place * Gilbert, AZ * (1:114/449) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAQ00001Date: 06/19/97 From: SARAH DURIS Time: 08:28am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 2 times) Subj: Milk allergies -=> Quoting Alan Fletcher to Sarah Duris <=- AF> Hi Sarah, AF> One of the main causes of secretory otitis media in young children AF> is the consumption of cow's milk and dairy products derived from it. We found this out a couple years ago and we stopped cow's milk right away. While it stopped the ear infections, Jonathan still had problems with a speach delay. As far as milk went, I continued to breastfeed him until he was 3, and then started him on goat's milk which hasn't given him an ear infection, yet. Recently, I started him on cow's milk because our source for goat's milk sold their goats! Sure enough, we are both suffering the consequences. I have found another source for goat's milk so we are switching again. I don't think milk is necessary to survival, but it sure is nice. We like our yogurt and ice-cream (homemade of course). BTW, my mother gave me *only* goat's milk, since my family raised raised goats, until I was 5 or 6. I still had a speach delay and slight hearing impairment. Hearing impairments run in my family, so I wonder how much of my son's is really caused by fluid. AF> the production of excess mucous. Ear, nose and throat infections AF> in children as a result are certainly not natural as many seem to We certainly found this out 2 years ago. As soon as I stopped the milk the infections cleared up. This is after 6 months of one ear infection after another, bronchitis, asthma, etc. At one point, we even counted the white blood cells to make sure we weren't dealing with a more serious cause of these infections (ie, leukemia). This six months coincided with the introduction of cow's milk. AF> but good for the profits of the medical profession) having his AF> or her tonsils removed. The tonsils are lymph nodes (guardians Didn't know about this connection. I wonder if tubes are also pretty much the same thing. AF> Hopi candles are mumbo-jumbo in my opinion...they may bring slight AF> relief (as does warm oil in the ear) but they are certainly not a AF> cure for the complaint. I'm pretty skeptical, too, just thought I'd look into it. I don't think I'll go this route. AF> "cause"....after all..you can not take antibiotics forever). No, but some doctors like to think you can :( AF> Best regards (and let us know how your son fares), Hey, thanks for the response. Later. ... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] --- Maximus 3.00 * Origin: Dragon's Lair BBS (1:3404/143) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAQ00002Date: 06/20/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:18am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: A Drink Or 2 A Day MP>JK>IF, you would take the time to attend classes in addiction studies, MP>JK>you would know that there is some genetic protection against alcohol, MP>JK>that the Native Americans have had it only for the past 2-300 years, MP>JK>the Chinese have had it around for a few thousand. Guess who has the MP>JK>better genetic protection against alcohol? If you cannot figure it MP>JK>out, write to James Milam, Ph.D. at Milam Recovery Program, 12845 MP>JK>Ambaum Blvd. SW, Seattle WA 98146, phone (206) 241-0890. Dr. Milam's MP>JK>expertise is well recongized in our Northwestern States and in other MP>JK>circles as well. MP>Which circles? Crop? The Russians demonstrated more common sense than that after some of our alcoholics in recovery went over there on a mission they began and paid for in order to introduce treatment to the Soviet Union. That, incidently, began during the Cold War era and probably contributed as much to the Berlin Wall coming down as anyother action at the time. That effort was begun and sponsored by Betty Ford. And I can assure you, having listened to two of the first 50 Americans who went over there, that they were heard. They were also respected, placed inside the Kremlin itself and housed there for their own protection at the time that we bombed Kadifi in Africa. The Russian scientists were assembled in an ampitheater seating at least 500 to listen to a panel of the American alcoholics at one time. The best of their medical people were there that evening, listening to a bunch of drunks explain just how they had managed to quit drinking. They were chased down in their hotel room in Moscow by Heroin addicts who wanted some help for their addiction. They ended up leaving both A.A. and N.A. in Russia. I have since met and talked with some members of A.A. who lived in Moscow before they came over here on a wooden sailing ship to entertain us with their folk dancing and music. Some of them were stuck in Seattle for weeks when the government changed in Russia. They played at one daughter's wedding and we taught them how to become entreprenuers. We told them to leave an open violin case at one point, and mine was the first bill that went inside. They have a short learning curve and were able to support themselves afterwards by performing in the Pike Place Market in Seattle. They also found local A.A. groups and new friends there, some from the White Russian contingent in Seattle. And just what has your organization done lately toward world peace and goodwill toward its fellow men? * SLMR 2.1a * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAQ00003Date: 06/20/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:18am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: A Fact Or Two.... MP>JK>MP>Well, the CDC has mentioned that they see the possibility of MP>JK>MP>eliminating environmentally caused polio in the US in the next MP>JK>MP>5-10 years. Sixty years to eradicate such a disease. MP>JK>I would encourage parents to find out what that means and also what MP>JK>procedures are used in their own doctor's offices. Who checks the MP>JK>frig to make certain it is clean and the temperature is correct? How MP>JK>often? MP>JK>And who checks for the expiration date of the vaccine itself? MP>JK>These aren't alternative medicine but they are in the area of MP>JK>assuming personal responsiblity for health care which should go along MP>JK>with any discussion about any kind of medicine. MP>Well, Jane, it is nice to find an area where we agree. I am a pretty MP>good judge of temperature, usually off by a degree or two at most. So, MP>when my kids received their vaccinations, I did the checking. MP>Their pediatrician did not mind, and, in fact, encourages it. He shows MP>the vial to the parents just to let them know that he takes pride in his MP>work. You have a doctor that is doing his best. And such is rare today. * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255)