--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00005Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: BOB MOYLAN (Read 2 times) Subj: A Drink Or 2 A Day BM> JK>BM> Do you mean to say then that just as you avidly claim there is BM> JK>BM> such a thing as genetic alcoholism there is genetic BM> JK>BM> teetotalerism? BM> JK> you would know that there is some genetic protection against alcohol, BM> JK> that the Native Americans have had it only for the past 2-300 years, BM> How then do you explain, or don't you make the attempt, the rampant BM> alcoholism among the native Americans for the past 100 - 150 years BM> or longer? WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!! The reason that there is such a high rate of alcoholism among the Native Americans is that the whites introduced alcohol to them along with smallpox and cavalry bullets. BM> JK> the Chinese have had it around for a few thousand. Guess who has the BM> JK> better genetic protection against alcohol? BM> If I attempted to answer that it would be the same thing as BM> acknowledging the existence of genetic alcoholism or genetic BM> protection against same, that I decline to do. That's your first mistake. I refer you to Dr. James Milam in Seattle who has been accepted as an expert in alcoholism on a world wide basis. Dr. James Milam, PhD Milam Recovery Program 12845 Ambaum Blvd. SW Seattle WA 98146 (206) 241-0890 I found another interesting site on the Internet today, this one supported by Janssen Pharmaceutica, Inc. It is at: http://www:mentalwellness.com The article about Schizophrenia is at: www.mentalwellness.com/9200.htm and states in part: "Years of research have shown that schizophrenia is a biologically based brain disease. The most recent advances in brain imaging have confirmed imbalances of two brain chemicals--dopamine and serotonin--in those who suffer from schizophrenia. Dopamine is responsible for emotions and motivation; serotonin acts as a messanger and stimulates muscle movement, switching nerves on and off. The brains of people with schizophrenia have elevated dopamine ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ serotonin activity. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Despite these findings, many still believe that schizophrenia is caused by poor parenting or weak will power." As I have said before, I am not responsible for your lack of knowledge in this area. It is blighting the lives of thousands upon thousands of people who are parents of, or who treat people who have brain imbalances. Those with schizophrenia can tolerate a drug such as Prozac which is designed to LOWER the amount of serotonin, those with the Bipolar disorder and/or alcoholism with a lower than normal supply AT BIRTH of these crucial neurotransmitters, cannot. According to medscape today, in the article entitled "Scientists Identify Brain Mechanisms of Cocaine's Euphoric Effects" cocaine works by blocking the dopamine transporter in the brain resulting in reduced dopamine responses to the drug in the striatum, a region of the brain linked to motivation control and reward. At the same time, they found an abnormal increase in the level of dopamine response in the thalamus, a region of the brain that communicates sensory information." You, and anyone else who stil choses to ignore the alternative methods of diagnosis and treatment of mental illness are in the dark ages of medicine. What was written above is the direct result of the knowledge gained by brain imaging instead of the witchcraft we have been saddled with in the entire mental area for too long. And, it is a very short step from brain imaging to remedial diet. * SLMR 2.1a * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00006Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 2 times) Subj: Marijuana & Health AV>AV>is why states have passed laws permitting medicinal marijuana use. AV>AV>Moreover, using marijuana is not a significant health hazard. AV>AV>Here is a synopsis by the Norml Foundation of a study AV>AV>entitled "Marijuana Use and Mortality". The report of the study AV>AV>appeared in the April 1997 issue of the _American Journal of AV>AV>Public Health_: AV> JK> And I can find more information to the contrary. AV>Assuming that you can, I would be surprised if it's competent: Can't get any more competent in this nation than the DSM IV. Just when was the last time you looked in it? * SLMR 2.1a * I think therefore I am not a REpublican. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00007Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 2 times) Subj: A Fact Or Two.... AF> opinion and I have not yet heard of one instance where someone AF> has regretted it. IOW..the trend downwards is certainly (as all AF> statistics show quite dramatically) not the result of innoculation AF> but IN SPITE OF IT. To put it another way, diseases like polio AF> are disappearing in modern countries because of one (or more) AF> other factors. Got an American military base handy? See if the medical folks there can be persuaded to show you the list of common diseases that our Air Force medics at McChord must be aware of when receiving injured or ill folks from other nations. * SLMR 2.1a * Photons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00008Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: TY MEISSNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Back To Eden (Kloss) TM> AF> > AF> > Back To Eden was originally TM> AF> > AF> > published in 1939. A paperback edition came out in the TM> AF> seventies, TM> Please pardon my impertinence, for commenting on a book that I TM> haven't read. My comment is directed towards what its title TM> suggests. The book is on alternative methods of health care and the title is somewhat misleading. It does tend, however, to attract those who end up being interested in its contents. * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline is umop apisdn --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00009Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: ALAN FLETCHER (Read 2 times) Subj: Blackouts; Peter Duseberg =========================================================================== BBS: My Desk Date: 06-12-97 (00:49) Number: 108 From: ALAN FLETCHER Refer#: NONE To: MARK PROBERT Recvd: NO Subj: Blackouts; Peter Duseberg Conf: (422) Alternativ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF> Hi Mark, AF> > I have met Dr. Duesberg. I was with a doctor friend of mine who is head AF> > of AIDS research and treatment at a large teaching hospital near my AF> > home. Duesberg had several of his "patients" with him. They claimed to AF> > be AIDS free. He agreed. AF> > There was no question that he is either a lieing bastard or totally AF> > blind. These people had numerous skin lesions which are virtually AF> > pathoneumonic for AIDS. They showed advanced body wasting and had AF> > virtually no body fat. AF> The question is...when did Duesberg start treating them? It has already AF> been demonstrated (also in your country) that AIDS sufferers who AF> merely believe that AIDS is not fatal actually live longer than those AF> treated with medication (and some are still alive I believe). AF> > I am certain that Duesberg is murdering these people. AF> If this guy (or anybody) manages to prolong the lives of AIDS AF> sufferers longer than current medicine then they can not be called AF> murderers. Even the pharma industry which still is not so successful AF> can not be called murderers. How can you call anyone who is trying to AF> do something against an otherwise fatal disease a murderer? The AF> murderers are those who choose to pump more money into applied AF> research (OK for the pharma industry but not for a government) AF> rather than basic research on the actual causes. AF> > As for his"research" it has been totally debunked. You just have to ook AF> > for the documents and understand how he is playing with your mind. Do a AF> > web search on Duesberg. Read everything. I did. AF> So did I..and it has not yet been debunked. By whom? AF> > The shame of it is that he is brilliant and had a very promising career AF> > where he could have been helping people. Now he is a murderer. AF> > ===>The Voice of Reason<=== AF> Cool it Mark....and think about what you are saying here. Duesberg AF> could have gone along with the crowd and earned a hell of a lot AF> more. He chose to follow his beliefs and swim against the tide AF> (sounds familiar don't you think). Whether he is right or wrong AF> has still to be determined (AIDS victims can survive 10 or so AF> years). AF> Best regards, AF> Alan AF>--- GEcho 1.00 AF> * Origin: The Bear's Cave (2:2461/161.5) * SLMR 2.1a * All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00010Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: SARAH DURIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Ear Candling SD>Hi. I am looking for information regarding ear candling. SD>My son has fluid build up in his left middle ear. Will ear candling SD>be good for this? SD>I wish to avoid surgery/tubes. This is affecting his hearing. Pardon me for asking, but if his hearing is impaired, why are you delaying the surgery? * SLMR 2.1a * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00011Date: 06/15/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 08:23am \/To: MEG UMANS (Read 2 times) Subj: Fda Acts MU>-> The FDA will be imposing restrictions on the sale of products MU>-> containing ephedrine as the uncontrolled consumption of this potent MU>-> drug has resulted in 18 deaths and over 800 serious injuries MU>-> requiring MU>-> hospitalization. You wrote: MU>Yup, and cutting into the phen-fen etc. market, just like tryptophan had MU>to go when "they" realized it was cutting into sales of some MU>psychotropic meds. In another year or two, St. John's Wort may be MU>declared too dangerous for us to consume. Then someone will have to MU>figure out how to make Rescue Remedy sound potentially letha. I can get around the lack of refined tryptophan by eating turkey (it worked only too well in cocaine withdrawal, and if I remember correctly, wasn't it during the Reagan/Bush era that tryptophan was banned?) Yet North and his pals were allowed to flood the nation with cocaine and pardoned by Reagan after being convicted. Does start to make one wonder, doesn't it? * SLMR 2.1a * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! --- JCQWK * Origin: My Desk, Puyallup, WA (253) 845-2418 (1:138/255) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00012Date: 06/08/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:10am \/To: MARK PROBERT (Read 2 times) Subj: Ultimate Jane-ism! MP>JK>MP>Document this, Janey, document this. MP>JK>Cannot document what is learned in empiracle medicine, Mark. You MP>JK>should know that by now. MP>I know that. I just wanted you to admit that you have no real proof. And speaking of documentation, one of the other subjects I comment on is diet. I have so much around this room piled up that I literally don't know where some of it is today. I ran across this just a few minutes ago when looking for a legal size file folder from a newsletter dated October 1986, published by the WELL MIND ASSOCIATON that once was in Seattle. It was most probably written by Sally Rockwell, the nutritionist associated with that group: ANTISOCIAL BEHAVOR & NUTRITION Four theories of nutrition's efffect upon behavior and brain function deal with (1) neurotransmitters, (2) malnutrition, (3) hypoglycemia, and (4) food additives and preservatives. These theories and research to support them were reviewed at the 2nd International Nutritional Medicine Conference in San Francisco, February 1968, by Walter E. Doraz, Ph.D., and Stephen J. Schoentahler, Ph.D, and coordinator, Criminal Justice, California State University. According to the neurotransmitter theory, in order for the brain to work properly, electrical signals sent to the ends of the nerve must pass over a gap to the next nerve, and they are transmitted by a chemical or neurotransmitter stored at the end of the nerve. Sufficient release of the neurotransmitter is necessary for the signal to go from one nerve to another. If there are sufficient simple sugars in the system producing the amino acid tryptophane, the neurotransmitter serotonin will be released allowing messages to pass over the gap from one nerve to the other, calming or slowing down the body. Without sufficient nutrients the neurons do not fire properly and the functioning of the brain is impaired. Consequently behavior is affected. The malnutrition theory contends that a person's diet needs to contain the proper micronutrients to recharge the nerve after it has transmitted a signal. This is done by the body's converting glucose into energy and involves large amounts of vitamins and minerals. The hypoglycemia theory states that a specific nutrient deficiency of lack of glucose in the brain brought about by a poor diet may cause behavioral problems. The last theory suggests that food additives and preservatives may retard absorption of essential nutrients or bind with these nutrients making them unusable. Three research studies back up the malnutrition theory. Research with 60,000 juvenile delinquents in ten institutions indicated that a modified diet produced 47% - 54% lower rate of antisocial behavior. In several studies researchers found they could correctly predict behavior by charting the levels of fat, magnesium, zinc and iron. High anger best correlated with institutional antisocial behavior. Tension, depression, fatigue and confusion also inversely correlated with nutrient levels. When kids in this study were given multiple vitamin/minerals at the RDA level, the malnourished kids with problems changed and did as well as the well nourished ones. Among those individuals with high antisocial behavior, magnesium levels were one third lower than what they should have been--down 60% from the RDAs. In a study of 803 public schools, an increase in national percentile rank of academic performance on the California achievement test was noted after significant diet changes. Those schools which inproved the most had the highest percentage of students buying school lunches. When the study started, there were 120,000 enrolled as learning disabled children. After improvement in school meals that number dropped to 49,000. Sources for research of above report: 1. Diet and crime studies in Vol 5 #2, "Biosocial Research; 2. Analysis of Diet and Crime studies in May/June "Nutrition Today" and rebuttal to appear Dec. 1986; 3. "Nutrition and Brain Function", Plenum Press, December 1986. THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA "Evidence has been offered by Meduna and his associates to show that schizophrenia is, in certain cases at least, related to a disturbance of carbohydrate metabolism....No one would make bold to say that manic depressive insanity is the result of nutritional failure, yet I have seen remarkable improvement in the poise of a patient, who for 30 years had been so handicapped, when her gross dietary faults were corrected and a balanced diet was adopted." "Nutrition and Diet in Health and Disease" by James S. McLester, M.D., Prof. of Medicine, U of Alabama. This text book was published in 1943. CHEERS TO HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL "At the (Harvard) Medical School, doctors are questioning whether the old ways of teaching medicine fit today's more demanding patients. Many people want to be more responsible for their personal health and participate more directly in choices of treatment' says Harvard's Dr. Gordon Moore. Harvard's answser: An experimental curriculum aimed at teaching students to see patients less like numbers on a chart and more like people." (Too bad this experiment wasn't contined.) * SLMR 2.1a * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E-- - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAK00013Date: 06/08/97 From: JANE KELLEY Time: 02:10am \/To: BOB MOYLAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Ultimate Jane-ism! MP>JK>MP>Document this, Janey, document this. MP>JK>Cannot document what is learned in empiracle medicine, Mark. You MP>JK>should know that by now. MP>I know that. I just wanted you to admit that you have no real proof. And speaking of documentation, one of the other subjects I comment on is diet. I have so much around this room piled up that I literally don't know where some of it is today. I ran across this just a few minutes ago when looking for a legal size file folder from a newsletter dated October 1986, published by the WELL MIND ASSOCIATON that once was in Seattle. It was most probably written by Sally Rockwell, the nutritionist associated with that group: ANTISOCIAL BEHAVOR & NUTRITION Four theories of nutrition's efffect upon behavior and brain function deal with (1) neurotransmitters, (2) malnutrition, (3) hypoglycemia, and (4) food additives and preservatives. These theories and research to support them were reviewed at the 2nd International Nutritional Medicine Conference in San Francisco, February 1968, by Walter E. Doraz, Ph.D., and Stephen J. Schoentahler, Ph.D, and coordinator, Criminal Justice, California State University. According to the neurotransmitter theory, in order for the brain to work properly, electrical signals sent to the ends of the nerve must pass over a gap to the next nerve, and they are transmitted by a chemical or neurotransmitter stored at the end of the nerve. Sufficient release of the neurotransmitter is necessary for the signal to go from one nerve to another. If there are sufficient simple sugars in the system producing the amino acid tryptophane, the neurotransmitter serotonin will be released allowing messages to pass over the gap from one nerve to the other, calming or slowing down the body. Without sufficient nutrients the neurons do not fire properly and the functioning of the brain is impaired. Consequently behavior is affected. The malnutrition theory contends that a person's diet needs to contain the proper micronutrients to recharge the nerve after it has transmitted a signal. This is done by the body's converting glucose into energy and involves large amounts of vitamins and minerals. The hypoglycemia theory states that a specific nutrient deficiency of lack of glucose in the brain brought about by a poor diet may cause behavioral problems. The last theory suggests that food additives and preservatives may retard absorption of essential nutrients or bind with these nutrients making them unusable. Three research studies back up the malnutrition theory. Research with 60,000 juvenile delinquents in ten institutions indicated that a modified diet produced 47% - 54% lower rate of antisocial behavior. In several studies researchers found they could correctly predict behavior by charting the levels of fat, magnesium, zinc and iron. High anger best correlated with institutional antisocial behavior. Tension, depression, fatigue and confusion also inversely correlated with nutrient levels. When kids in this study were given multiple vitamin/minerals at the RDA level, the malnourished kids with problems changed and did as well as the well nourished ones. Among those individuals with high antisocial behavior, magnesium levels were one third lower than what they should have been--down 60% from the RDAs. In a study of 803 public schools, an increase in national percentile rank of academic performance on the California achievement test was noted after significant diet changes. Those schools which inproved the most had the highest percentage of students buying school lunches. When the study started, there were 120,000 enrolled as learning disabled children. After improvement in school meals that number dropped to 49,000. Sources for research of above report: 1. Diet and crime studies in Vol 5 #2, "Biosocial Research; 2. Analysis of Diet and Crime studies in May/June "Nutrition Today" and rebuttal to appear Dec. 1986; 3. "Nutrition and Brain Function", Plenum Press, December 1986. THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA "Evidence has been offered by Meduna and his associates to show that schizophrenia is, in certain cases at least, related to a disturbance of carbohydrate metabolism....No one would make bold to say that manic depressive insanity is the result of nutritional failure, yet I have seen remarkable improvement in the poise of a patient, who for 30 years had been so handicapped, when her gross dietary faults were corrected and a balanced diet was adopted." "Nutrition and Diet in Health and Disease" by James S. McLester, M.D., Prof. of Medicine, U of Alabama. This text book was published in 1943. CHEERS TO HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL "At the (Harvard) Medical School, doctors are questioning whether the old ways of teaching medicine fit today's more demanding patients. Many people want to be more responsible for their personal health and participate more directly in choices of treatment' says Harvard's Dr. Gordon Moore. Harvard's answser: An experimental curriculum aimed at teaching students to see patients less like numbers on a chart and more like people." (Too bad this experiment wasn't contined.) * SLMR 2.1a * --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E-- - JetMail v1.20*6 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: PEACHY KEENO INN BBS * Tacoma,Wa * (206)539-0804 (1:138/190.1)