--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 256 RYBBS Ref: D5K00003 Date: 05/14/96 From: BILL HUTCHISON Time: 05:00pm \/To: CONNIE ANNE (Read 10 times) Subj: Re: FileHelp CA>You may want to try Bill Mitchell, he hangs out here. CA>--- Telegard v2.99.g4 CA> * Origin: Connie's Corner Support 919-223-3393 (1:3629/350) Connie I have log onto Bill Mitchell BBS he has aetup a nice looking system. I would like to know are you going put RyBBS back up? What do you like more about Telegard over RyBBS? Also do you know if someone will pick RyBBS up. and come out with a new ver of RyBBS Its bad to see a nice system like RyBBS go down hill. All I see is sysop going over to other systems. As for me I will not give up on RyBBS as yet... Have a nice day...... Thank You: Bill Hutchison --- S. Arizona Stick Lizard Country * Origin: The Home Remote Comm Sys, Tucson, AZ USA 1-520-292-0997 (1:300/25) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 256 RYBBS Ref: D5P00000 Date: 05/09/96 From: BILL MITCHELL Time: 08:33pm \/To: ALL (Read 10 times) Subj: HELP!!!! Good Grief! I did something, and I cannot figure out what it is that I did. HOWEVER, RyBBS will no longer accept a QWK upload. Everything was working right, I edited one of the areas and WHAM! Nothing I have tried will fix this. I am now re-trying to use a previous ryboards.bbs. ARGH! --- RyPacker v2.5a * Origin: The Right Place V.34+ DS RyBBS Ft.Lee,NJ 201-947-8231 1:2604/539) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 256 RYBBS Ref: D5P00001 Date: 05/09/96 From: BILL MITCHELL Time: 09:50pm \/To: ALL (Read 17 times) Subj: HELP!!!! If there is anyone still out there, 4DOS 5.52 will cause QWK uploads to fail. Solution is to run MS DOS's command.com. --- RyPacker v2.5a * Origin: The Right Place V.34+ DS RyBBS Ft.Lee,NJ 201-947-8231 1:2604/539) --------------- Next conference: FIDO Message Area Next topic: 257 Altern. Medicine FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00023Date: 06/13/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 11:51pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: acupuncture Accupuncture has captured our imagination for a long time here. The following message amy be of interest to some of you: * Originally By: Luke Thomas * Originally To: Kurt Ullman * Originally Re: acupuncture * Original Area: Ask_A_Nurse * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.12 Hi Kurt! -> There are some interesting things in accupuncture (actually -> acupressure, but I don't know if the difference is visible to most Actually there is a BIG difference--nothing can replace the needles in terms of delivering therapeutic benefit, especially when also combined with electrical stimulation. Once upon a time I had a bad knee problem that I was unable to walk without some kind of knee support. I've been to doctor to doctor, and they prescribed me so much anti-inflammatories (which did not work) that made my blood thin, terrible photosensitivty, (all due to side effects of the drugs) and injections of cortisone which only gave relief for three days. They were starting to talk about invasive arthroscopy. I asked my doctor about acupuncture and he said it won't work. I said well what you are doing is not working so what do I have to lose. After one treatment the pain was gone for one day, then it came back the next, but the following day it felt as though I had a cortisone shot--WHICH LASTED SIX MONTHS. I did not have to walk with any kind of knee support. The pain came back after six months--so I went back and had another acupuncture treatment. The pain never came back and to this day I have normal range of motion, I can run up and down stairs and just do what I want to do. Anyway I went back to my doctor and he says my knee is okay (which was pretty obvious). Orthodox medicine should NEVER dismiss traditional medicine and should permit the patient OPTIONS to use *in conjunction* with standard treatment. I read articles it was used for many other conditions with encouraging results. And the World Health Organization officially recognizes it as an official treatment for hundreds of medical conditions. I cannot tell you how wonderful it worked for me, and to walk and run or do what I want without pain is something I truly appreciate, because I know how it feels to lose that privlege. Luke ___-----end------------------------------------------ I hope you enjoyed reading it, Wayne ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00024Date: 06/14/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 12:52am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 3 times) Subj: Acupuncture -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Alan Fletcher <=- JK> @TID: IMAIL-386 1.85+ PK29 JK> @MSGID: 1:138/255@FIDONET 39fc129a JK> @PID: JCQWK 2.02 Rev A AF> > This is out of another post from someone else who also is trying to et AF> > you to look in another "data base" or wherever you find this sort of AF> > misleading and incorrect information. AF> Seems strange that a leading pharmaceutical company should have AF> such misleading information. Perhaps you could quit blowing off AF> Jane and give me some reliable quotes. Which I know for a fact AF> you won't. JK> Alan, I don't know what company you work for, but the more you write JK> about what they know there and it fails to add up to what I have known JK> for 50 years or more, the more I want to examine closely any JK> pharmaceutical I ever have prescribed for my own personal consumption! But that's not as damaging as the huge data base he claimed the Company has which he uses! :) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00025Date: 06/14/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 01:11am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Acupuncture -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Wayne Young <=- WY>You're right, accupuncture is now widely accepted as standard WY>practice. WY> JK> We are including that which we can smell and feel and hear in what e WY> JK> call alternative medicine. WY>The "suction cups" that are sometimes used in conjunction with WY>accupuncture are like that - you can smell, feel and hear. JK> Thought they just stuck one with pins. That's the main dish. Heat, electric current, and suction cups are the "garnishing" dishes... just like the Chinese banquet, the total is much greater than the sum of the parts. WY> JK> Some of what I can hear when I am tired or need to concentrate on some WY> JK> task such as working on a budget for a grant proposal is jazz. It WY>Aaah, yes, Louis Armstrong and his band playing softly in the WY>background? JK> Or others. I haven't gotten them out for some time now......I guess JK> that using the computer tends to get rid of some of my negative energy JK> and allow me to function at a high level when necessary in other JK> things. Yes, there are more emotional involvement in BBSing than listening to music, unless you sing along with Karaok. WY> JK> I think folks who live without music in their lives miss a lot. WY>Oh yes, like one half of it? Maybe one third for men? WY>Men have the historic 3-Gs! :)) JK> Women like music also. They are capable of making it. Yes, but I think men made more money in it? But I like female vocalists more. Wayne ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00026Date: 06/14/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 01:46am \/To: JANE KELLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: Add Etc. -=> Quoting Jane Kelley to Wayne Young <=- JK> @TID: IMAIL-386 1.85+ PK29 JK> @MSGID: 1:138/255@FIDONET 39fc12bf JK> @PID: JCQWK 2.02 Rev A WY> JK> You didn't get the point which is that if I cannot tolerate standing WY> JK> for any length of time, I can't do these things. I found someone ho WY> JK> will help with the heavier housework, thank heaven. WY>Thank heavens you helped me to understand this message! :) JK> That person left. HOwever we had a bake sale yesterday and a lady JK> came in who has help from some county agency. She knows where to call JK> for the information on someone to help with chores. We have a few Agencies in Vancouver that you can call for any help one needed, and some are ran by voluteers. WY> WY> JK> I have a combination of Glucosamine and WY> WY> Chondrotin on back order an WY> WY> JK> will get it next month. That is really supposed to work. WY> WY>I hope so too... just keep track of the dosage and reactions if WY> WY>any? JK> Got the stuff, easy to keep track of it. I am taking one 1000 mg. of JK> timed release Glucosamine in the morning, one pill with the JK> combination at night. We will see if that provides more pain relief or JK> not soon. 1000 mg sounded like a lot for a new medicine. How did you determine on such dosage, Jane? JK> Then I have to make a list of the oils I need and go find them or JK> write or call for them. I was chatting with a Gentleman who used to work for CBC. He said he took "tons" of fish oil daily. Salmon oil, I think. Did you try this oil? JK> I am not eating salads as I used to do and not getting oils that way. What kind of salad gives you oil? Olives? I add very little dressing on my salads. The first thing I hit when we go for smorgasbord is the salad bar! JK> And since I found out that gluten is not for me, I am not eating much JK> bread, either. Well, potatoes, rice, or yams will give you the needed carbohydrates? JK> Incidently, turkey with rice bread stuffing isn't as good as that made JK> with wheat bread. I think it is more a traditional hangup than taste, because it was always the bread crumbs that are used for stuffing turkeys? JK> Found that out this week, also. Did it reacted negatively or you don't like the taste, Jane? Wayne ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00027Date: 06/14/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 02:02am \/To: DAVID WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Bee Venom -=> Quoting David Wilson to All <=- DW> @MSGID: 1:326/438 cb1739ed DW> @TID: InterEcho 1.18 6E011211 DW> Talk about your Alternative Medicine! Tonight's network DW> evening news featured a piece on bee-sting therapy for DW> multiple sclerosis victims. DW> DW> I'd never heard of it, but apparently thousands of MS DW> patients have found relief. No joke! They actually allow DW> themselves to be stung by bees and wasps. The subject has DW> apparently gained enough attention among the DW> traditionalists so that genuine clinical research has begun DW> at the ivory tower level. DW> DW> Does anyone know something on this matter that Tom Brokaw DW> and Dan Rather don't know? I guess the bee sting hurts like hell, anything else is forgotten? The venom may "mask" the MS where it hurted? DW> If bee venom becomes a valuable DW> commodity, we might see a lot more honey in the stores! It may well be the other way around - the bees die after stinging. Wayne ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 257 ALTERN. MEDICINE Ref: EAJ00028Date: 06/14/97 From: WAYNE YOUNG Time: 02:12am \/To: MARK RUHLAND (Read 2 times) Subj: Breech Birth -=> Quoting Mark Ruhland to Wayne Young <=- MR> Yer confusing the two... The shunt is for hydrocephalus WY> Yes, sorry about that! MR> Not a prob... I make mistakes all the time;-) Thanks! You're so forgiving! :) WY> I thought the water on the brain was caused by the accident, that MR> Well, in a way the "accident" of birth (VBG) caused the MR> hydrocephalus (water on the brain) which needed the MR> shunt... The bus accident OTOH, ONLY injured the spinal MR> cord... In other words, IMHO, it coulda been alot worse!!! Yes, we have to count our blessings in the face of calamity... The undying spirit! WY> was why I asked if you have neck injury, damaging the drain duct WY> there. MR> I understand ya know;-) Thanks!!! That's great! I'm the most misunderstood man on earth! :) WY> I also have some bad days! Some days are even worse than bad! :) MR> That sounds like me;-) Well, WE will inherit the Earth yet! :)) WY> Aahh, yes, good drinks all around! Pass THAT one, please! :) MR> ;-) WY> Now, you can have it back! :) MR> Thanks!!! Take it EZ!!! Yes, but don't take it all!! :) Wayne ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715)