--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EBY00000 Date: 07/27/97 From: JAMES HOUGHTON Time: 12:07pm \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: GAMES uh, no its a computer game you fruit! --- FMailX 1.02 * Origin: Ground Effects BBS, Vancouver B.C., 604-589-0505 (1:153/9112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EBZ00000 Date: 07/29/97 From: BOB HIRSCHFELD Time: 08:16am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: Genoa Jib I finally got out on the McGregor 26 last weekend on the Northern Sea of Cortez (Gulf of California) to try out the newly acquired (used) Genoa Jib. I've owned the boat for about two years, but only had a regular jib. At Puerto Penasco, Sonora, Mexico, the wind tends to be too light in the summer, and I have on previous sails down there had to run the outboard engine to get around on too-light days. Hence the acquisition of the Genoa Jib. Saturday, strangely, the winds got so high that the port authority closed the port and didn't allow anyone to launch. If I had been al;lowed out, I would have had to use the standard Jib. But Sunday, the wind went down to minimal whitecaps, (still unseasonably strong) and I ventured out. The medium-wind performance was radically improved, but when puffs of wind came up, I had to really work at the tiller to maintain my direction. I was generally pleased with the "Jenny". I forgot to wear a cap, and got severely sunburned (blistered) where my hair thins in the back. It was about 90 degrees F and humid; I consumed eight Diet Cokes (and one Dos Equis beer) in five hours out on the water, and still felt dehydrated. Ah, well. Great sailing day, though! --- DB 1.58/004910 * Origin: The Sea and the Desert (1:114/74.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EBZ00001 Date: 07/29/97 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 09:52pm \/To: JAMES HOUGHTON (Read 1 times) Subj: GAMES -> On 27 Jul 97 08:07:00, James Houghton got back to Dan Ceppa JH> uh, no its a computer game you fruit! What can I say? I haven't seen many/any messages in here in a while and I was bored! ... I sail, therefore I am. --- OMX/Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: From the Northwest Corner of Nowhere (1:123/67.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EBZ00002 Date: 07/28/97 From: JOHN WEISS Time: 07:21pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sea Pearl 21 I'm seriously considering buying a Sea Pearl 21 cat ketch. The biggest problem is there are none in Seattle I can even look at, much less sail. Does anyone know anyone with a Sea Pearl within a couple hundred miles of Seattle? Does anyone know anyone [previously] with a Sea Pearl who would care to comment about it? Please respond here or e-mail to jrweiss@seanet.com * RM 1.31 2116 * SAAB: Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Grey Matter * Seattle, WA * 1:343/210 * (206) 528-1941 (1:343/210) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EB^00000 Date: 07/30/97 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 03:02pm \/To: BOB HIRSCHFELD (Read 1 times) Subj: Genoa Jib -> On 29 Jul 97 04:16:00, Bob Hirschfeld got back to Dan Ceppa BH> But Sunday, the wind went down to minimal whitecaps, (still BH> unseasonably strong) and I ventured out. The medium-wind performance BH> was radically improved, but when puffs of wind came up, I had to BH> really work at the tiller to maintain my direction. I was generally BH> pleased with the "Jenny". Do you have a traveller on the boat? If so, try dropping that in the puffs. If not, let out the main sheet. It should help you maintain better control on the tiller. BH> I forgot to wear a cap, and got severely sunburned (blistered) where BH> my hair thins in the back. It was about 90 degrees F and humid; I Ouch! BH> consumed eight Diet Cokes (and one Dos Equis beer) in five hours out BH> on the water, and still felt dehydrated. Ah, well. Great sailing day, BH> though! I'm hoping to be out on the water this afternoon in the little boat. However, I've got to get around to re-glassing my rudder. Lost a large chunck of it last time out. It may have been when Linda took us off the rocks in the marina last week. Can't blame her, though, as I gave her the tiller and was instructing her. Besides, she too cute of a crew member to get angry with. :) ... The best sailboat is the one you got to sail today... --- OMX/Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: From the Northwest Corner of Nowhere (1:123/67.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EC100000 Date: 07/31/97 From: BOB HIRSCHFELD Time: 09:19am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Genoa Jib > -> On 29 Jul 97 04:16:00, Bob Hirschfeld got back to Dan Ceppa > BH> But Sunday, the wind went down to minimal whitecaps, (still > BH> unseasonably strong) and I ventured out. The medium-wind performance > BH> was radically improved, but when puffs of wind came up, I had to > BH> really work at the tiller to maintain my direction. I was generally > BH> pleased with the "Jenny". > Do you have a traveller on the boat? If so, try dropping that in > the puffs. If not, let out the main sheet. It should help you > maintain better control on the tiller. The mainsheet and its pulleys connect to a single, centered point on the MacGregor 26, just aft of the hatch. There is no traveler as standard equipment, perhaps it's not practical because the spacious open cockpit extends pretty far forward. Actually, I did let out the main later, and it reduced my effort at directional control, but, of course we went a bit slower. :-) > BH> I forgot to wear a cap, and got severely sunburned (blistered) where > BH> my hair thins in the back. It was about 90 degrees F and humid; I > Ouch! > BH> consumed eight Diet Cokes (and one Dos Equis beer) in five hours out > BH> on the water, and still felt dehydrated. Ah, well. Great sailing day, > BH> though! > I'm hoping to be out on the water this afternoon in the little boat. > However, I've got to get around to re-glassing my rudder. Lost a > large chunck of it last time out. It may have been when Linda took > us off the rocks in the marina last week. When using the long-shaft Johnson 9.9 outboard to drive the MacGregor onto its trailer at gradual launching ramps, one has to loosen and elevate the pivoting rudder so that it sticks out to the back somewhat, rather than straight down, so as to avoid digging the rudder into the mud or rocks below. In that position, if it swings too far towards the outboard motor side under power, it gets chewed a bit by the propellor. The fiberglass rudder has multiple scars from such events, but it is necesary not to lift the rudder entirely out of the water while approaching the trailer, in order to maintain sufficient directional control. The outboard motor well is narrow, so that controlling direction entirely by pivoting the motor from side to side is less effective than making the final approach with me standing (for visibility of the trailer), operating the swing-up tiller bar. I launch and retrieve the boat at a narrow channel leading from the sea to the shrimp boat marina at Puerto Penasco, which has radical tides (23 feet variation at full moon, ninth highest in the world). Thus, at low tide, the channel is significantly narrower than at high tide, and maneuvering onto the trailer (at right-angle to the channel) more critical, especially in any cross-wind. --- DB 1.58/004910 * Origin: The Sea and the Desert (1:114/74.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EC200000 Date: 07/31/97 From: BRIAN TAYLOR Time: 10:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sail Boat Names Can someone send a list of names of sailboats in a size range from 25 to 60 feet in length? List: name, feet, # of sails, and other characteristics they may have. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: DelaMarPenn MicroNet -+- Newark, Delaware (1:150/115) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EC300000 Date: 08/02/97 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 12:37am \/To: BOB HIRSCHFELD (Read 1 times) Subj: Genoa Jib -> On 31 Jul 97 05:19:00, Bob Hirschfeld got back to Dan Ceppa > Do you have a traveller on the boat? If so, try dropping that in > the puffs. If not, let out the main sheet. It should help you BH> open cockpit extends pretty far forward. Actually, I did let out the BH> main later, and it reduced my effort at directional control, but, of BH> course we went a bit slower. :-) Are you sure about that? Without a knot meter, you may have thought that you were going slower. Riding on the rail seems fast, but more upright is still faster. However, if that's the case, try letting out on the jib instead. But, from what you say about the helm, the boat seems to be primarily driven by the main. > large chunk of it last time out. It may have been when Linda took > us off the rocks in the marina last week. BH> onto its trailer at gradual launching ramps, one has to loosen and BH> elevate the pivoting rudder so that it sticks out to the back BH> somewhat, rather than straight down, so as to avoid digging the rudder BH> into the mud or rocks below. Big Grin! She drove us _into_ the rocks, not over them on the way to the dock. BTW, don't tell her I told you that, nor the other readers of this international echo. She'd kill me! BH> towards the outboard motor side under power, it gets chewed a bit by BH> the propellor. The fiberglass rudder has multiple scars from such I think I may be able to launch with the rudder in place, but I haven't tried. It would be nice to have a pivoting rudder, just in case. I know that the center board will drag before I get the boat on the trailer. BH> tides (23 feet variation at full moon, ninth highest in the world). BH> Thus, at low tide, the channel is significantly narrower than at high BH> tide, and maneuvering onto the trailer (at right-angle to the channel) That sounds like "lot's of fun!" The tidal range here isn't too bad, though the entrance to the bay itself can move quite strongly on the main flow or ebb. ... You can always tell when your on the right course- it's upwind! --- OMX/Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: From the Northwest Corner of Nowhere (1:123/67.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EC300001 Date: 08/02/97 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 12:43am \/To: BOB HIRSCHFELD (Read 1 times) Subj: Genoa Jib -> On 31 Jul 97 05:19:00, Bob Hirschfeld got back to Dan Ceppa > large chunck of it last time out. It may have been when Linda took > us off the rocks in the marina last week. BH> is less effective than making the final approach with me standing (for BH> visibility of the trailer), operating the swing-up tiller bar. Well, the main reason that we went off of the rocks was the Linda is used to a wheel that steers like a car! She simply pushed it the wrong way. Now, don't ever tell her that I told you this and half the world about it in this echo. She'd kill me! Anyhow, my daughter finally decided to talk to me. We went sailing on Joe's big boat for the Duck Dodge race. It was nice to have her back with me on the water. Anyhow, after the race, she got to steer. Yep, with a wheel. And, she started turning it the wrong way! I took a turn at it and didn't do too badly. That is, however, until a gust came up and I turned it the wrong way myself. Yes, I'll tell that story to Linda! ... A well trimmed boat looks best with a pretty figurehead --- OMX/Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: From the Northwest Corner of Nowhere (1:123/67.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: EC500000 Date: 08/01/97 From: ROBERT POGSON Time: 11:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sailing in N. Manitoba I will be teaching this winter in Lac Brochet (59N,101W), a community by a lake that is a widening of the Cochrane river running down into Reindeer Lake. As a pastime in the long winter nights, I intend to build a small sailboat for fishing and pleasure in the spring and fall. Has anyone sailed down that patch of river? Are there rapids or rocks to worry about? The topo maps are sparse in detail. I suspect the only problem would be that it would be a one-way trip if the current exceeds sailing speed. Mine will be the only sailboat on Lac Brochet as far as I know, but sailing seems to be very practical as the lake is fairly calm and gasoline is exhorbitant and can be trucked in only in winter over ice. By sailing onto Reindeer Lake I will be able to reach the end-of-the-road and truck my beauty out if I should terminate employment. On the other hand, if she sails well, the market value in the remote location may pay me adequately for my labour ;-). Are there any suggestions? ... nfx v2.8 [C0000] Money: What you work for in order to get something else. ... nfx v2.8 [C0000] Life is short; send more e-mail. --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0105 * Origin: 1:348/206 Muddy Waters 204-231-4507 (1:348/206)