--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDM00002 Date: 09/16/96 From: GENO DELLAMATTIA Time: 04:40pm \/To: GARY CHAMBERS (Read 2 times) Subj: Ken Bax GC>Hello, Geno... Long time, no chat!!! How've you been? I've moved-up to Ma GC>(stationed at NAS Brunswick). This is a spectacular part of the country. Things are good. Just bought a new boat a couple of months ago and have been spending alot of time getting to know her intricately (read cleaning the whole damned thing with a toothbrush and dental pick...). Where's NAS Brunswick? As for spectacular, you should get up here sometime.... :) GC>I certainly will!! There was another frequent poster to the echo (he was GC>SysOp), but I can't remember his name. Charlie sticks in my head, but I can GC>be certain. They were both from the Boston, MA (metropolitan) area. Ken wa GC>living in Lynn last I heard. He and I had briefly traded sun sight umbers GC>when I was on deployment to see if we could successfully reduce them to each GC>other's position. We've lost many of the old-timer's over the years. I guess the Internet hype caught them. GC>Take care of yourself!! If Ugly Al is hanging around, tell him I said hello GC>too!! Who's Ugly Al? --- WM v3.11/93-0359 * Origin: Ship to Shore, Vancouver,BC [604]540-9596 (1:153/7064) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDM00003 Date: 09/16/96 From: LAURENCE CHARLOT Time: 09:33pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: First launching! Progress report: Catalina 25 hull #1205 It has been a couple of months since I bought the boat, and after 7 weekends in a row of repair and upgrades, we put the boat in the water for the first time this weekend. I have added a lot to this boat: here's an abridged list: 1. Upgraded spreader base fittings from cast aluminum originals to all-stainless-steel welded sockets (there have been some failures reported and the aluminum ones were discontinued on boats built after 1986, I think). 2. Upgraded lower shroud chainplate eye bolts from 3/8" diameter originals to 1/2", and replaced backing plates with aluminum angles. This combination has more than double the safe load limit of the original hardware. 3. Added an anchor light and combination bow/deck light to the mast (Aqua Signal 25's). 4. Installed a VHF radio and antenna. The radio is on a swing mount in the companionway, so I don't have to leave the cockpit to use the radio as on my last boat. 5. Installed a stern pulpit, 6 stanchions, and lifelines. (This was a horrible job-hope I never have to install a stern pupit again!) 6. Installed new bow and stern running lights, and new wiring to them. 7. Installed new galley sink pumps and all new fresh water hoses-the original ones were full of algae (yeeecchhh!) 8. Replaced coolant pump impeller on the outboard. 9. New halyards for main and jib, new boom vang, and hardware to lead the lines aft to the cockpit. Installed Spinlock double rope clutch for the halyards. 10. A 5 step transom ladder is on order, and I will be adding roller furling in a couple months, after my Visa card recovers a little . Will probably go with the Cruising Design FF6 unit. The FF4 on my Cat 22 served well for many years and the company was great about warantee service and replacement parts. 11. I have added rails to the settee and dinette, that support an extra cushion that turns the dinette into a full queen-size bed. One of the cockpit cushions just fills this gap, between the dinette table and starboard settee. This lets me sleep athwartship so the boat doesn't list as it does when sleeping in the quarterberth. 12. I bought a pop-top cover and will start installing the snaps next weekend. This came with the snaps in a little baggie, and it looks like there are at least 20 of them, so another all-day job! Whew!! This has been a lot of work but will be worth it. As for the first launching, the boat didn't sink, so I guess it is OK, at least no holes in the bottom!! After breaking the mast step fitting the previous weekend, I was in a state of high anxiety about mast raising, but it went smoothly enough with Lynn helping. Unfortunately, there is something wrong with the wiring... there re 3 lights mounted on the mast (2 navigation lights and a deck floodlight), and 2 of these circuits have dead shorts in them-blew the fuses instantly the first time I tried them. Hopefully, the shorts are in the deck plug and not in the mast itself. The worst case scenario is that when I rebuilt the mast rigging last month, I cut into these wires with a bolt or sheet metal screw; there are several of each at various places on the mast, used to attach hardware, rigging wires, and the aforementioned light fixtures. If this is the case, we will have to lower the mast again (groan!), and I will have to run new wires to the lights. If it is a short caused by incorect wiring at the deck connector, I can fix that in less than an hour. Next weekend I plan on boat-camping overnight, assuming I can work out this latest glitch in the wiring. Also, The outboard motor mount turns out to be the wrong kind, designed for an outboard of 5 hp or 50 pounds weight maximum; the motor that came with the boat is a Honda 10hp which weighs nearly 90 pounds. The motor mount wobbles terribly from side to side-it is worn out from age and too much weight-and the counterbalance springs are totally nadequate, making it nearly impossible to raise the motor from inside the boat. West Marine supply here in town has a mount designed for outboards up to 20hp/110 pounds at a reasonable price, so my next project is to replace the old mount with the new one. This Honda 10 outboard would cost $2200 to replace if it fell off the boat, so $130 for the correct mount seems cheap insurance. I would guess that this undersized motor mount was maybe the only one in stock in the store the day it was purchased. The boat was purchased stripped, and neither of the two previous owners added anything: When I bought it, there was no boom vang, no anchor light, no stern pulpit or lifelines, no electronics whatsoever, and the ground tackle consisted of two 5 pound slip ring anchors with no chain, and 75' of 3/8" polyethelene rope-the orange and black kind that floats and is usually purchased at Home Depot to tie down furniture in the back of a pickup truck when someone is moving. The mooring lines were also cut from this stuff, and years of sunlight had degraded it so much I wouldn't have trusted it as a dog leash, let alone to hold a 5000 pound boat. The only reason I bought it was cheap asking price, and the general condition of the hull, outboard, and trailer is actually pretty good for being 17 years old. Well, That's all for now, will keep you updated as the boat nears completion. -Larry ... --- Fresh water is for drinking, Salt water is for SAILING! --- --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: Omni - (916) 388-0905, longest running Sac BBS (1:203/3333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDM00004 Date: 09/17/96 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 04:48pm \/To: RYAN CARSON (Read 2 times) Subj: SAILING -> On 09-16-96 11:48, Ryan Carson got back to All RC> For a Sailing Echo I would of expected more chat. I am Surprised not RC> to see all but one message. I just installed this Echo on my BBS out Well, the mail of late in FIDO has been a bit erratic, to say the least... I hope you see this, as my BBS has been having problems getting the mail out though it's been coming in. :( ... If draft > ping then knots = 0 ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0GI * Origin: Ten Forward on the Olympic Peninsula, where rain reigns! (1:350/401) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00000 Date: 09/18/96 From: RICHARD WHEET Time: 12:40am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 2 times) Subj: Race Rules > If you are talking about the catamaran vs the monster mono-hull, > that was quite embarassing, to say the least. Then, too, most > of the Cup history has been in forming lopsided rules. It's nice > to see things being playing on a more even playing field. Actually, if one takes in the ENTIRE picture.... up to that point in time, challenges were on a REGULAR basis.... when the Aussies challenged for the Cup on an off year, Connors didn't have the couple of years to develop a new boat as the Aussies had over the last couple of years... so Connors came up with the fastest he could produces in such a short notice.... When you think about it, it was BOTH sides fault.... --- * Origin: Starboard ... STARBOARD! (crunch) (1:388/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00001 Date: 09/18/96 From: RICHARD WHEET Time: 12:41am \/To: RYAN CARSON (Read 2 times) Subj: SAILING > For a Sailing Echo I would of expected more chat. I am Surprised not to > see all but one message. I just installed this Echo on my BBS out of > interest. Is there more to this? Any Way Happy Sailing to ALL!!!! It's fall... we'll all sailing .... --- * Origin: Starboard ... STARBOARD! (crunch) (1:388/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00002 Date: 09/17/96 From: SANDY WHETHERHOLT Time: 10:35pm \/To: GENO DELLAMATTIA (Read 2 times) Subj: Martec Props Hello Geno! 11 Sep 96 06:34, Geno Dellamattia of doubtful wisdom scribbled to All: GD> I've found a used Martec folding prop and am looking for GD> opinions. I've called Martec and even after rebuilding it the GD> price is quite reasonable. _Cruising World_ had a good section on props a few months ago. Martec did quite well in their tests. Their explanation of the pros and cons of each type of prop was very good. I wouldn't go to a folding prop unless I raced a lot. Later........Sandy --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615+ * Origin: BLUFF CITY BBS - OS/2 - Memphis, TN (1:123/70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00003 Date: 09/18/96 From: SANDY WHETHERHOLT Time: 07:57am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 2 times) Subj: Race Rules Hello DAN! 05 Sep 96 08:48, DAN CEPPA of doubtful wisdom scribbled to JACKSON HARDING: JH>> Then again we all know that Americans went to any lengths, JH>> in or out of the rules, to keep the America's Cup. DC> If you are talking about the catamaran vs the monster mono-hull, DC> that was quite embarassing, to say the least. If Fay hadn't been such a horses ass and challenged in the usual way, there wouldn't have been such a defense. Fay knew that we couldn't come up with a comparable boat in the time frame of his challenge, so turn around is fair play. For those who think otherwise, they're probably just jealous of DC and his success with the AC. Later........Sandy --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615+ * Origin: BLUFF CITY BBS - OS/2 - Memphis, TN (1:123/70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00004 Date: 09/18/96 From: GENO DELLAMATTIA Time: 04:36pm \/To: JEAN PARROT (Read 2 times) Subj: Martec Props JP> Don't get it. Look for a Maxprop. You can ajust a Maxprop to JP>your ship, in pitch. Not the Martec. I installed a Maxprop on my last C&C. I agree they're great, but cost is a factor for the short term. Used Martec = $ 100.00 + Max $ 150.00 to rebuild, Maxprop is $ 1500.00 (we're talking Canadian quasi-dollars). Eventually I will install a Maxprop.... --- WM v3.11/93-0359 * Origin: Ship to Shore, Vancouver,BC [604]540-9596 (1:153/7064) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00005 Date: 09/18/96 From: GENO DELLAMATTIA Time: 04:50pm \/To: RYAN CARSON (Read 2 times) Subj: SAILING RC>For a Sailing Echo I would of expected more chat. I am Surprised not to ee RC>all but one message. I just installed this Echo on my BBS out of interest. I RC>there more to this? Any Way Happy Sailing to ALL!!!! What kind of sailing are you into? I sail here in Vancouver and in the northern end of Washington State. I do some cruising and a fair amount of racing. --- WM v3.11/93-0359 * Origin: Ship to Shore, Vancouver,BC [604]540-9596 (1:153/7064) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DDN00006 Date: 09/18/96 From: GENO DELLAMATTIA Time: 05:49pm \/To: LAURENCE CHARLOT (Read 2 times) Subj: First launching! LC>Well, That's all for now, will keep you updated as the boat nears LC>completion. -Larry Wow! Thanks for the update Larry. Looks like you've been doing alot more to your boat than I have...... --- WM v3.11/93-0359 * Origin: Ship to Shore, Vancouver,BC [604]540-9596 (1:153/7064)