--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCS00002 Date: 08/21/96 From: DAN CEPPA Time: 07:26pm \/To: RICH LITTLE (Read 2 times) Subj: Race Rules -> On 08-13-96 16:34, Rich Little got back to Richard Wheet >> are dinghies. As I mentioned, the Monday Night Regattas are just >> getting solidified. Besides the the guy that was skipper/crew as RW> Get a list of all those which race.... make a schedule and assign one RW> person from the list per week.... if they refuse to do it... don't let RL> Very good advice. Don't forget the bonus benefits. Everyone RL> learns both ends of the job, and everyone learns what a pain in the RL> patoot folks who are normally nice can turn into when they get into a RL> referee's face. Both ends, and the rules in between, for sure. Each has their own interpretations of a rule. It's the Committee that has the final say, generally. The more the Committee knows, the fairer the resolvement of the altercation. RL> Many of us can profit from the experience. Sell, it does look like my tiller got lost overboard and I should pay back my dues as soon as I can to get it back.... Great advice! ... Never raise a 150% Genny in force 9. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Ten Forward BBS, The Olympic Peninsula. (1:350/401.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCU00000 Date: 08/25/96 From: RICHARD WHEET Time: 01:52am \/To: RICH LITTLE (Read 1 times) Subj: Race Rules > Very good advice. Don't forget the bonus benefits. Everyone learns > both ends of the job, and everyone learns what a pain in the patoot > folks who are normally nice can turn into when they get into a referee's > face. > Many of us can profit from the experience. And they then have to think about what happens when the "others" get to do what you did, when you get committee duty --- * Origin: Starboard ... STARBOARD! (crunch) (1:388/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCX00000 Date: 08/26/96 From: ROBERT COSTA Time: 08:11pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: let's talk If people have as much fun and enjoyment as I do sailing we should have more action here. At the very least there should be some good B.S. Anyone want to hear about my maiden voyage on 'UFORIA'(my cat 22) from Corpus Christi to Port Isable TX? 130+ miles of some of the prettiest and strangest things I've ever seen.... --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library FidoNet (1:397/5258) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCX00001 Date: 08/24/96 From: HAP NEWSOM Time: 07:48am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: On Topic, here! DC>-> On 08-14-96 10:07, Hap Newsom got back to Dan Ceppa DC> HN> During the summer that will make things really nice for ya! Now get DC> HN> out there and Sail!! DC>I'll do that tomorrow, as it's Duck Dodge Night! Hope you cleaned house on 'em! DC> DC>my boat and check out the hiking straps to see if they are DC> DC>safe for my kids... ;) DC> HN> Heck, if they'd hold me they'd hold a whole neighborhood ! DC>Well, maybe a smaller community! Not much smaller than a community! DC> DC>BTW, have you seen any of the news about the Regatta for the DC> DC>National Lido 14 Championship held here last week? There were DC> HN> No, I didn't know the nationals were held up here this year! Too bad DC> HN> you didn't get the chance to go out and defend the home surf ! So DC>I'm trying to arrange that for next year. From what I've heard, DC>the out-of-towners not only enjoyed the days sailing, they DC>enjoyed bing here. We certainly enjoy the area enough that we return often, will be back up that way in a couple of weeks to check on golf clubs across the street from you . DC> HN> now they have your trophy eh? Well next time go and bring it home! DC>Still working hard at that. I've got the "faster" boat, but DC>my finishes aren't reflecting that. Then again, I enjoy every DC>minute on the water. That's even more important than winning! DC>Next time you get out this way, you are more than welcome to DC>help me sink the C-Lark! Heck, to do that all I havta do is climb aboard! chat with you soon! hap * SLMR 2.1a * Gypsy Dwarf escapes jail...small medium at large! --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Outdoor Focus - University Place, WA (206)565-7730 (1:138/123) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCY00000 Date: 08/25/96 From: JACKSON HARDING Time: 12:58pm \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: Race Rules Hello Dan! Wednesday August 21 1996, Dan Ceppa writes to Jackson Harding: ->> On 08-19-96 07:09, Jackson Harding got back to Dan Ceppa ->> Re: Race Rules DC>> Seems like you are maybe using different rules or interpretted DC>> them differently. The penalty turns must be as soon as possible, JH>> Yes, and no latter than the end of the leg on which the infringement JH>> occured. DC> Nope, in the rules, it is a "soon as possible". IOW, you DC> cannot sail on, other than to clear boats behind you and DC> get out of their way to reconcile the infraction. You are quite correct. I've misled myself, I've found the part about same leg in an old sailing instruction in a club yearbook. DC>> On contact, even if the penalty turns are taken, a protest DC>> still, if not must, should be filed. One of the reasons for JH>> If you are going to have a succesful protest, you will need to have JH>> witnesses. If you have witnesses you will have a successful insurance JH>> claim (and possibly a richer lawyer). DC> Perhaps, especially if there is a lot of damage. However, not DC> making the protest gives a lot of room for having the right of DC> way boat to have to pay not only his deductable but perhaps DC> even the entire claim. Then your insurance companies are much less of bastards than ours are. Without (unonvolved) witnesses even a sucessful protest is no guarantee of an insurance payout. Often what's more important is the fine print in your racing risk extention clause. Bye for now, Jackson --- FMail/386 1.02+ * Origin: --> The Cockpit, up front in aviation BBS' <-- (3:800/857) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCY00001 Date: 08/20/96 From: JACKSON HARDING Time: 06:04pm \/To: RICHARD WHEET (Read 1 times) Subj: Race Rules Hello Richard! Thursday August 15 1996, Richard Wheet writes to Jackson Harding: RW> Insurance claims look down on that kinda thing... Insurance claims require witnesses more than anything else. RW> also, it is in our rules.. there have also been a few appeals to the RW> international rules committee and they maintain it SHALL be done.... They can maintain it till their blue in the face, everyone who knows the rules is aware of it but it still does nothing for your popularity amongst your peers. Bye for now, Jackson --- FMail/386 1.02+ * Origin: --> The Cockpit, up front in aviation BBS' <-- (3:800/857) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCZ00000 Date: 08/29/96 From: BRENT HENDRICKS Time: 12:05am \/To: DAN CEPPA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: CAL 34 Owners Manual DC> However, do you know a Nancy O'brion from down there in DC> "Sandy Eggo"? Nope Can't say that I do! --- CNet/3 * Origin: -- The Rats Den BBS San Diego,CA -- (1:202/1402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DCZ00001 Date: 08/29/96 From: RICHARD WHEET Time: 09:00am \/To: JACKSON HARDING (Read 1 times) Subj: Race Rules > They can maintain it till their blue in the face, everyone who knows the > rules is aware of it but it still does nothing for your popularity > amongst your peers. I was taught that in sailboat racing, the rules are to be followed.... it is a self-policing document.... and if one is aware they are violating a rule, then it defeats the entire concept.... if your peers look down on you for following the same rules they have agreed to abide by, it may be time to find a club which respects the rules.... --- * Origin: Starboard ... STARBOARD! (crunch) (1:388/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DC^00000 Date: 08/29/96 From: PAT STIEHM Time: 04:46pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Sailing Club DC Area Dose anyone know of a sailing club in the Washington DC, area? If so please let me know how to contact it. --- * OLX 2.2 TD * MSI - Redefining Telecommunications In '96 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Little Rascals BBS 301-855-9420 (1:109/538.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 254 SAILING Ref: DD100000 Date: 08/31/96 From: RICHARD WHEET Time: 09:17pm \/To: PAT STIEHM (Read 1 times) Subj: Sailing Club DC Area > Dose anyone know of a sailing club in the Washington DC, area? If so > please let me know how to contact it. Look in the phonebook and call a few of the marinas.... they probably will know a few since that area is big on sailing.... --- * Origin: Starboard ... STARBOARD! (crunch) (1:388/13)