--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1H00003 Date: 01/05/97 From: MIKE CAMPBELL Time: 12:30pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Paintball Update>CCO.2 * Crossposted from: general Area: 9 Msg#: 5 Date: 04 Jan 97 00:43:00 From: Robert Campbell To: All Subj: Paintball Update>CCO.2 Hello To All, Well, Congratulations!!! The time has come (It was inevitable) for Campbell Co. to pick a BBS that had the capability of handling multiple responsibilities. We had to look at cost factor, user friendliness, future expansion, current planning and location. We have struck up a good working relationship with the SYSOP of the BBS and have been given generous use of the forum that has been produced through a co-op. Is it any wonder we picked: The Engineering Room! Royce Solberg has a good reputation on the local boards, which can be hard to come by in this day and age and is diligent in helping out with technical aspects of our placement on the board. He uses WILDCAT, and that suits our purpose very well. Thanks again for all the hard work Royce, In other matters, We would like to thank all of the many Bulletin Boards that participated with us, and to the ones who didn't, we're sorry we didn't get a chance to explain our intentions more in detail. We will still keep an active presence on your Boards, so-as-to toss mail back and forth and for your unique BBS privilages. We thank you for the opportunity. To our patrons, We are sorry, but we will no longer be answering your posts or discussing the subject of Paintball (And related topics) on any Bulletin Board (Locally) other than the designated Board above. -CHAT MODE EXCLUDED-We will toss your mail from your own personal home board that we are logged on at, to the paintball forum, to be answered there, and then sent back with ER/Paintball tags for advertising purposes. Or you can just check us out at: The Engineering Room (702)825-7715 Conference: # 9 24 hrs/day SPLAT! For the International Conference, may we suggest: LIBCOM @ (702)785-4191 Conference: Paintbll 24 hrs/day Also, for less public aquisition of your messages, try our JUNO account-address located on our tagline. We can send you the soft- ware or you can download it from LIBCOM. >>>>>>>This Message Will Be Cross Posted, Please Bear With Us<<<<<<< ... For Private I-NET E-Mail: PAINTBALL.CCO@JUNO.COM ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] ... For Private I-NET E-Mail: PAINTBALL.CCO@JUNO.COM ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#27) * Origin: Horse Talk BBS - The Place to Be. (1:273/221) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1H00004 Date: 01/09/97 From: JOHN AUGUSTINE Time: 09:12pm \/To: JACK PFISTERER (Read 2 times) Subj: CASE AGAINST WINDOWS Jack, JP>Hi, John - JP> JP>Pleasant surprise to encounter you here. JP> I don't usually come here, but I just wanted to get something off my chest. JP>I'll bet you don't get much argument from this conference. Certainly JP>not from me! JP> I got responses from a number of the Windows Conferences. Most were were cordial. None were Bitter so far. JP>To me, a growing and potentially greater problem is that nearly all new JP>CD-ROM's require Windows to run. For the moment at least, most allow I have a couple of CD Roms, I just have to go to the Rom Drive and "run" the Application. What a PLEASURE. No Install Procedures, etc. I will admit that probably the Biggest Advantage Windows has, it is easier for people to use a Computer, especially those who never used one before. Nice hearing from you again Jack, take care. ___ * UniQWK v4.1 * The Windows Mail Reader --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (610) 376-1819 (1:2607/401.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1H00005 Date: 01/09/97 From: JOHN AUGUSTINE Time: 09:41pm \/To: STEPHANE BESSETTE (Read 2 times) Subj: Case Against Windows Stephane, SB>-=> Quoting John Augustine to All <=- SB> SB>JA> Windows has DISADVANTAGES (All of them are NOT Listed here): SB> SB>JA> 1. Windows is VERY INEFFICIENT ("Gobbles" up TOO MUCH MEMORY). SB> SB>consideration is the fact that Windows allows you to use more SB>than one program at the same time. If all you do is play I agree with you on that. If you are in the habit of opening more that one Application at a time, Windows is the platform. SB> For instance, when I program under OS/2, I have the SB>following programs active: a text editor (EPM), a compiler (Watcom SB>or EMX), a resource editor (Guidelines), as well as a few online SB>books (references to OS/2 API). Sure, I could work in a I program for Dos in Assembly using Masm Assembler. I am not familiar with Watcom or EMX. What Language do you Progam in? BTW, I did not mean to Post that Message in the Windows OS/2 Conference, It was an Accident (Nothing against OS/2). SB>memory configuration. Once you've figured out how to create an SB>environment where all your memory is EMS, all XMS, or half and SB>half, then you can create multiple boot floppies, or program SB>DOS v6.0 in multi-config mode. But getting there is no simple SB>task. I agree. So far, I have not developed anything that needs all that overhead. My biggest Progamming Project was on a Commodore 64 years ago. SB> You may feel that life is easier in DOS, but if you do not SB>use Windows, or any other multitasking environment, you're missing I do use Windows (3.1). There are some Very Good Programs that use the Windows Platform (Only). If I want to use them, I have to use Windows. Thanks for all your Comments ___ * UniQWK v4.1 * The Windows Mail Reader --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (610) 376-1819 (1:2607/401.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1H00006 Date: 01/12/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 06:08pm \/To: HARRY WESEBAUM (Read 2 times) Subj: GAMES FREEZING/PAUSING Harry Wesebaum wrote in a message to Jack Stein: JS> Session_Priority, as I understand it, sets all sessions to 1 by JS> default. Setting a session to 2 will make it the LAST session JS> serviced, when time permits. Doesn't matter at all if you set it to 2 JS> or 32, it's still last. In other words, I don't think session_priority JS> does what you think. My feeling is it should be left alone unless JS> really needed for something. I guess, for example, you might set JS> every session to 2 except your BBS, which you set to 1, making sure JS> that always gets first dibs, but I never had to here. Also if you have JS> a process that you absolutly don't care about speed, you could give it JS> a 2 priority and insure everything else gets serviced first. JS> Generally, OS/2 does fine without touching this setting, left to it's JS> own devices. Again, this is how *I* understand it... HW> *My* understanding of Session_Priority is the exact HW> opposite. The higher number gets priority first and the HW> lower numbers are last on the service list. HW> Which of us is right? I'm not sure. I remember when I first installed WARP and saw the Session_Priority I changed my BBS to a higher priority just to see what would happen, and it the next caller had all kinds of problems. I changed it back to the default (0) and all was well again. Much later I read somewhere that Session_Priority worked as I described above, which made sense based on my experience, but I can't find the source for this, perhaps it was in a dream? I've searched every where I could think for where I got this, but came up blank. Nick posted a reply to me on this, which seemed to indicate I'm wrong on this, but I'm still not sure. The guys that were messing around with this setting seemed to be having problems, as I had problems when I changed it, so I'm a little skeptical about my thoughts being incorrect. I guess it should be easy enough to test, but I'm not in the mood at the moment, and if I'm wrong it'll drive me crazy trying to come up with where I got the info:-) Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1I00000 Date: 01/12/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 02:30pm \/To: JACK PFISTERER (Read 2 times) Subj: CASE AGAINST WINDOWS It's 07 Jan 97 07:34:26, We'll return to Jack Pfisterer and John Augustine's discussion of CASE AGAINST WINDOWS JA> ... but people are "Forced" to use Windows because the Programs >they want to use, UNFORTUNATELY, are Only Windows Based. JP> To me, a growing and potentially greater problem is that nearly all JP> new CD-ROM's require Windows to run. For the moment at least, most JP> allow use of Windows 3.1; but I fear that concession will pass rather JP> quickly. This means that even if you have satisfactory OS/2 software JP> for all your regular applications, you will still have to have some JP> form of Windows to make use CD-ROM resources. JP> Am I the only one that this worries? Hmm, I'm not sure what this drama about CD-ROMs is. When I installed mine, I ouldn't get it working under DOS/Windoze, with the supplied drivers. Anyway, I decided to put it in the "too hard" basket, booted OS/2 and set about doing the usual things. Anyway, to cut a long story short, there was the new CD-ROM proudly staking its claim on the F: drive! It didn't work, but that was only because I had previously commented out the CDFS driver in config.sys. :-) ... Support Bacteria--it's the only culture some people have. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1I00001 Date: 01/12/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 03:27pm \/To: KRIS STEENHAUT (Read 2 times) Subj: Backup Software It's 07 Jan 97 04:55:00, We'll return to Kris Steenhaut and Tony Langdon's discussion of Backup Software KS> Infozip isn't really a mere clone. Infozip does back-up EA's, PKzip KS> doesn't; wich means Pkzip isn't that good for OS/2 at all. I haven't used PKZip for OS/2 myself. I'm too happy with InfoZip to bother. :-) ... Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1J00000 Date: 01/14/97 From: ROSS SIEBER Time: 04:08pm \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Backup Software TL> KS> Infozip isn't really a mere clone. Infozip does back-up EA's, PKzip TL> KS> doesn't; wich means Pkzip isn't that good for OS/2 at all. TL> TL> I haven't used PKZip for OS/2 myself. I'm too happy with InfoZip to TL> bother. :-) The OS/2 version of PKZip does not work very well, it couldn't seem to do anything with archives created by the dos 2.04g version, so I just use the os version instead. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Shattered Mentality: 717-540-0655 (1:270/124) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1J00001 Date: 01/11/97 From: JONATHAN DE BOYNE POLLARD Time: 11:56pm \/To: JOHN AUGUSTINE (Read 1 times) Subj: Case Against Windows JA> > Windows has DISADVANTAGES (All of them are NOT Listed here): JA> It does, but this isn't the echo for provoking an argument about it. Try OS-DEBATE. The OS2DOS echo is a technical support echo for people running DOS or DOS+Windows applications under OS/2. > JdeBP -- Moderator, International FIDONET (and RBBS) OS2DOS echo < ___ X MegaMail 2.10 #0: --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-725167) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1K00000 Date: 01/12/97 From: JOHN THOMPSON Time: 08:24am \/To: KRIS STEENHAUT (Read 2 times) Subj: Backup Software In a message of 01-06-1997, KRIS STEENHAUT wrote re: Backup Software JF> Tell me about Infozip, though. I'm curious.... > It's an excellent PKZip clone. I use it here. :) KS> Infozip isn't really a mere clone. Infozip does back-up EA's, PKzip doesn't; KS> wich means Pkzip isn't that good for OS/2 at all. The widely available PKZIP/2 program was based on PKZIP v1.0 and supports neither extended attributes nor long filenames nor the "new" (c. 1993) v2 compression algorithms. Apparently PKWare currently has a new OS/2 product in beta, but I haven't tried it myself (InfoZip works fine for me). Try http://www.pkware.com if you're interested. * KWQ/2 1.2i * Internet: John.Thompson@ibm.net --- OS/2 Warp\FastEcho\FD\ProBoard * Origin: The Future Generation BBS*(414)739-8242*Supra 2400-33.6k (1:139/655) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: E1K00001 Date: 01/14/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:34am \/To: JOHN AUGUSTINE (Read 2 times) Subj: Case Against Windows It's 10 Jan 97 07:41:00, We'll return to John Augustine and Stephane Bessette's discussion of Case Against Windows JA> I agree with you on that. If you are in the habit of opening more JA> that one Application at a time, Windows is the platform. OS/2, Linux and Windows NT are all far more efficient for this. JA> BTW, I did not mean to Post that Message in the Windows OS/2 JA> Conference, It was an Accident (Nothing against OS/2). Hehe, easily done. :-) JA> I do use Windows (3.1). There are some Very Good Programs that use JA> the Windows Platform (Only). If I want to use them, I have to use JA> Windows. I use a lot of Windows 3.x software too, but in a Win-OS/2 session. :-) ... Line noise? What fh=.hElL is.LinS nfise? --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18)