--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00006 Date: 11/09/96 From: JONATHAN DE BOYNE POLLARD Time: 02:40pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: OS2DOS Rules OK ! 10th November 1996 ======================================================== The rules of the International FIDONET OS2DOS echo . ======================================================== This conference is for the discussion of running DOS and Windows programs under the OS/2 operating system, and for any other issues relating to OS/2 Virtual DOS Machines. This is not a commercial conference. It is not supported by any organisation or corporation that promotes programs that operate under Microsoft or PC DOS or the OS/2 operating system. When posting to this conference, please use common sense. Sysops and users have to pay out of their own pockets for the messages transported all around the world in the OS2DOS echo. Please do not overquote. Please do not post long text files (make them available for File Request instead, and post a note giving the filename and FIDONET address). Please do not post advertising. Many questions are covered by the OS2DOS Frequently Given Answers list, which should be available on any good site that carries the OS2DOS echo, and is available for FREQ as FGA-OS2D.ZIP from 2:440/4.0. Check the FGA to see that you are not wasting everyone's time and telephone bill before posting a question. Similarly, if you see a question that is covered by the FGA, please respond by pointing the questioner in the direction of the FGA rather than repeating the answer. Please do not post nor respond to "test" messages (except via netmail). The sole right to respond to test messages via echomail is reserved, by the moderator, to the moderator ALONE. Especially please do not use long signatures. 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(-: / JdeBP -- Moderator, International FIDONET (and RBBS) OS2DOS echo . --- Blue Wave/OS2 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-725167) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00007 Date: 11/09/96 From: JONATHAN DE BOYNE POLLARD Time: 02:40pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Frequently Given Answers of the OS2DOS e14:40:4911/09/96 10th November 1996 A pointer to the OS2DOS Frequently Given Answers Please read the OS2DOS Frequently Given Answers before posting, so that you don't waste everyone's time and money unnecessarily. If your sysop does not have the OS2DOS FGA available for users to read already, then please encourage him to make it so. The FGA is for both your and his benefit. You can File Request FGA-OS2D.ZIP, the archive form of the FGA, from 2:440/4.0, 1:202/1207.0, 1:104/725.0, 1:387/800.0, 3:800/402.0, or any site on the Fernwood file distribution backbone. Here are the Frequently Given Answers that are currently included : ~ What the OS2DOS echo is. ~ What sorts of DOS and DOS+Windows applications should be expected to work under OS/2. ~ What sorts of DOS and DOS+Windows applications should be expected not to work under OS/2. ~ Windows VxDs and OS/2. ~ Using AutoCAD for DOS under OS/2. ~ Using Microsoft Visual C++ for DOS under OS/2. ~ Using DOS applications written by Borland under OS/2 including Borland C++ for DOS. ~ Using 32-bit Borland C++ for DOS under OS/2. ~ How to stop the "reload file from disk?" prompt from appearing when working with the IDE for Borland C++ for DOS. ~ Installing Borland DOS applications into Workplace Shell. ~ Using DOOM for DOS under OS/2. ~ Using DOS games softwares under OS/2. ~ Errors in DOS comms softwares under OS/2. ~ Improving performance of DOS comms softwares under OS/2. ~ How to prevent the modem from hanging up when users invoke a door. ~ How to start another session from within a Virtual DOS Machine. ~ How to convert DesqView aware applications to OS/2 aware applications. ~ Using OS2SPEED and 4DOS together. ~ How to defragment and repair SuperFAT partitions in OS/2. ~ What 4DOS and 4OS2 are. ~ Why you don't need the Windows permanent swapfile, 386SPART.PAR. ~ What WINDOS.COM is. ~ How DOS and DOS+Windows applications can run from and use HPFS. ~ Using a SoundBlaster from Windows under OS/2. ~ Using (or rather, not using) MSCDEX under OS/2. ~ How to detect a Virtual DOS Machine from a DOS program. ~ How to release timeslices to OS/2 from a DOS program. ~ OS/2 system calls available to DOS programs running under OS/2. ~ How OS/2 supports DOS and DOS+Windows applications. ~ How virtual memory affects Virtual DOS Machines. ~ What VDMs and VMBs are. ~ Why one would need a VMB instead of a VDM, and how to create one. ~ What the VMM and what VDDs are. ~ Where the default settings used in the VDM settings dialogue come from. / JdeBP -- Moderator, International FIDONET (and RBBS) OS2DOS echo . --- Blue Wave/OS2 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-725167) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00008 Date: 11/09/96 From: MR. HOMIE Time: 09:26am \/To: GREGORY URBAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Laplink 2.01 problem GU> Within the last month I finally took the plunge and rejected the GU> herd mentality by switching to OS/2 Warp 3.0. Unfortunately I am having GU> a compatibility problem with LapLink version NU-2.01, it refuses to GU> communicate with my serial ports! That's right. LapLink won't work under OS/2 (unless you have a native version). Why? Because OS/2 doesn't allow programs to controller the hardware ports...that's precisely how LapLink does it's business. I've even had problems with LapLink in Win95 in a DOS box...it runs for a while then craps out. WinNT would have the same limitation. Why does OS/2 not let programs control hardware ports? Crash Protection. If a program has completely control over a hardware port and it hangs on a call...it's locked the machine because it'll continue hammering that IRQ and nothing else will get service. OS/2 intervenes in this case and tries to eliminate this problem. Now this may not be exact to the numbers, but it's the general idea. If you're system can dual-boot to DOS or something to that effect, that would be one way to get around it. Brian Hertziger Mr. Homies' Computex Mr. Homies' Neighborhood BBS (414) 325-7986 (BBS #1/Fax) (414) 325-7987 (BBS #2) [Team OS/2] Member RAR Reg. Site ProBoard Beta Site Allfix/2 Beta Site ___TheEdit v2.10 "- = eta Testing an attitude with this one . . . = -" OS/2: Bill Gates' worst nightmare! --- [Mr. Homies' Computex] * Origin: [Team OS/2] Mr. Homies' (414) 764-7659 (1:154/645) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00009 Date: 11/09/96 From: DAVID SMITH Time: 11:33am \/To: CLAY FISHER (Read 4 times) Subj: Defrag Hi Clay, CF> Error making them, or error using them? Error making them actually? Don't know why it would not create them, but i got a sys error or something last time i tried to make the utility disks. CF> I had a hell of a time creating install disks for warp 3, each disk CF> was pop in CF> and pray (actually, plug and pray, did M$ write the code?) that it CF> worked. Yeah, so did i, i went through about 20 disks, and 1 hour later to make the disks. I would get to the third disk, and the damned disk would go bad, so i had to start all over again! Dave ... Help! I can't find the "ANY" key. --- Ezycom V1.20 04fa001a * Origin: Fox's Lair BBs Bris Aus +61-7-38036821 V34+ Node 1 (3:640/238) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00010 Date: 11/11/96 From: JACK WEI Time: 03:04pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Ultima 7/Serpent Isle Hi! Does anyone know if it's possible to run Ultima 7/SI (game has it's own EMS driver) in OS2 3.0 dos? If so how? Thanx! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00011 Date: 11/12/96 From: RICHARD GLIDDEN Time: 04:21pm \/To: PHIL CHIU (Read 4 times) Subj: Taming dos sessions unde On Sun Nov 10 1996 at 09:45, Phil Chiu of 1:134/65 wrote: PC> That's interesting. I am using Tame v3.33 instead of OSTSR v1.2 PC> for time-slicing. My DESQView and OS/2 aware commo app just PC> doesn't seem to release time slices well when set to a DV PC> environment instead of an OS/2 one. Under Warp 4, I've noticed that anything that uses Windows or OS/2 aware settings generally does not release time slices AT ALL, while running a DesqVIEW program and converting the timeslices via OSTSR seems to work moderately well. There IS a bug in Warp 4's timeslice routines (specifically, Int 21h, AX=1680h doesn't release timeslices, as it should). PC> I thought I wasn't use to tweaking a AMD5x86-33/133 since I owned PC> a 386DX-33 just previously. Your idea does suggest something PC> else is going on. Try setting your IDLE SENSITIVITY for the DOS session down to 2 or 3. See if the problem goes away. I found that with programs that don't release timeslices at all (ie: The Draw, or most programs written in Borland TurboPascal without timeslice routines), setting the idle sensitivity to 2 or 3 is the only way to get happy performance. Essentially, this bug has turned most OS/2 aware programs into non-OS/2 aware programs. :( PC> With Tame v3.33, all my DOS apps are 'set' to OS/2 instead of PC> DV awareness. IDLE_SENSITIVITY is set to either 38 or 22. Try OSTSR, for now. It might work around the bug, where Tame might not. (I don't use Tame, so I don't know how it releases timeslices). PC> I can't do that -- OS/2 Warp v4 is too elegant despite some of PC> the bugs (I think they're bugs) I encountered. (shrug) Yes, I agree. I run mostly OS/2 Native programs here anyway, so the DOS compatibility problems aren't a major concern for me... Ciao for now, - Richard --- * Origin: The Imperial Sanctum [TiS] (1:259/500) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00012 Date: 11/10/96 From: EBBE KRISTENSEN Time: 01:59pm \/To: GREGORY URBAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Laplink 2.01 problem Hello Gregory! Replying to a message from Gregory Urban to All: GU> Greetings Folks, GU> Within the last month I finally took the plunge and rejected the GU> herd mentality by switching to OS/2 Warp 3.0. Unfortunately I am GU> having a compatibility problem with LapLink version NU-2.01, it GU> refuses to communicate with my serial ports! GU> [...] GU> Also, parallel connections are not an option me. Anyone have GU> any ideas? Before I got Warp Connect, I used MS InterLink and a serial cable to move files between my portable and my stationary PCs. This program also won't work in an ordinary DOS box. It will however work in a bootable image. Now, I don't know if this will work for LapLink but it might. For more information, do as follows: Open Settings for a DOS program (any DOS program), c Click on Session, Click on DOS Settings Select Other DOS Settings and press OK Select DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE and press Help or F1 Here you will find a description on how to boot a specific DOS version under OS/2. I'd advise you to look at the topic "Starting DOS from an image file", found at the bottom of the help page. Here is describe how to create a file containing a bootable DOS image i.e. you don't need to boot from a diskette. Ebbe! --- FleetStreet 1.18+ * Origin: email: ebbe.kristensen@dkb.dk FIDO: (2:235/134.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00013 Date: 11/12/96 From: MIKE JOHNSON Time: 07:06pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Nascar Hello, Has anyone gotten the Nascar racing game that came on the Matrox CD to run in Os/2-dos? If so could they send me there session settings. Thanks mike ... --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Mike's Point Denver Colorado (1:104/345.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00014 Date: 11/11/96 From: NICHOLAS LAWRUS Time: 06:20am \/To: JONATHAN DE BOYNE POLLAR (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Frequently Given Ans JDBP> Please read the OS2DOS Frequently Given Answers before posting, so Is this file available on the web? Thanks--Nick ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Fernwood - your source for OS/2 files! (1:141/209) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 252 OS2 DOS Ref: DFJ00015 Date: 11/11/96 From: DALE SHIPP Time: 09:32pm \/To: JACK WEI (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Serpent Isle -=> On 11-11-96 09:40, Jack Wei <=- -=> spoke to All about Serpent Isle <=- JW> Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to run Ultima 7 JW> part 2 - Serpent Isle in OS/2. If it is how? My understanding is that it is not possible because of the proprietary memory manager (VOODOO) that Origin uses in the Ultima 7 series. I tried to get U7 part 1 to run from a VDM and a VBM -- but neither would work. Had to make a separate boot disk for it. When I got to U7 part 2 (SI) I did not even try. Just used the same boot disk. dale@mbbs.com (1:261/1137.11) ... Shipwrecked on Hesperus in Columbia, Maryland. 21:34:43 11 Nov 96 ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Owl's Anchor Point (1:261/1137.11)