--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5C00012 Date: 05/07/97 From: ROLAND SCHIRADIN Time: 11:28pm \/To: ANDY ROBERTS (Read 0 times) Subj: Adept release v109.28 Hi Andy, BK>> OK, I won't send it out TODAY.........! RS> Thank you :-) What about this week? AR> This is getting ridiculous. Sure. AR> It just goes to show that no matter what the Adept supporters do, AR> you and some others (that don't use Adept) will never be satisfied AR> with any competition. Oh no no no, sure I'm not not a Adept-User and if I'm I'll try to get the support-echo (maybe called Adept or Adept.Ger). AR> But that is no reason to stop development on Adept. Did I ask to stop development on Adept? I only complain about a weekly and duplicate announcement of a new beta/gamma version of Adept. This can be done inside the Adept-echo or by netmail. RS> I quote this complete! Many peole, including me, are very happy RS> about this. AR> ROTFL, I love ironic jokes. This is your mind, not my. AR> echo about them provided they are directly related to OS2BBS and AR> not just some msgs claiming to be the only OS/2 prgms you want to AR> read about. So why do we need special echo? AR> I hope you learn that most users will just press 1 key to jump to Be sure that I have press this key often, before I complain about it. RS> To follow this style. Please remark that a lot of users have RS> register and payed for Adept times ago. AR> Sure, but that's not what you started to complain about. Instead AR> you complained about FREE AdeptXBBS announcements of development. I didn't complain about the announcements I complained about THE HIGH RATE AND DUPLICATE ANNOUNCEMENTS. I never complain about the Announcements of LoraBBS or other products. Roland**2 schiradi@tap.de --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: Register-site FastLst/NEF, all APWORKS and SQED (2:2454/169) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00000 Date: 05/06/97 From: EDDY MATTHEWS Time: 08:27am \/To: MARIO DULISSE (Read 0 times) Subj: Adept v1.09.33 Hello Mario! I have a couple of suggestions for Adept that you may like to consider... 1. Make the date format flexible... We in Europe don't use the American yy/mm/dd format, we use dd/mm/yy. A minor point perhaps, but it's very confusing using something that is not the norm :-( 2. Add a screen blanker into Adept to prevent screen burn-in. 3. Add a terminal mode into the mailer similar to FD, or Maindoor etc... It's a pain having to load up a seperate comms program to log onto another BBS :-) And lastly, I have a small problem that you *may* be able to help with? I want to get rid of language prompts #61, #62 and #63. I have tried removing them from the language file, but Adept still waits for the user to press [Return] before continuing... This means that they have to press return three times (once for each prompt that I've removed). Is there any way I can get Adept to skip past these questions without waiting for user input? Many thanks for doing such a superb job on Adept! Regards Eddy --- * Origin: InfoSoft BBS - +44-1642-873956 (FidoNet 2:256/651) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00001 Date: 05/08/97 From: MARIO DULISSE Time: 09:35am \/To: LAWRENCE LUCIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Adept and Trident TGUI9680XGi > Howdy Mario.............I use a fair amount of Squish related software > (which includes BTW, my mail reader which I do *not* want to give up! > ). A quick search through your docs doesn't mention anything about > Squish (or I might have missed it if it does). If the current situation is > that, in fact that AdeptBBS doesn't support Squish, are there any future > plans for doing so? Played with squish support at one time (read the readme.txt) but found the semi-support that had been started n adept was sorely lacking.. you see adept uses zone:net/node.point@domain in *EVERY* message function, echomail, netmail etc... true 5-d address impelmentation, I found squish is ony 4-d, so I tried all kinds of kludges to get adept to read/write squish bases and still retain adepts 5-d addressing scheme. I got it to work (sorta) but it was not reliable, too many kludges required, so I dropped it as a bad idea. I have no plans to revisit squish support anytime soon... too much other stuff needs doing... > I have looked at/installed various releases of AdeptBBS ever since the days > when it was still a shareware product and find that there definitely are > some features of Adept BBS that I would like to incorporate...........the > biggest drawbacks from making a switch to it though are the absence of > Squish support and to a certain extent being limited to using only the > default front end. The deafult fron end I've had requests for letting adept use something else as it's mailer, but since the mailer and bbs are so tightly integtrated in adept and the mailer drives adepts events subsystem, replacing the mailer with a run what you want option, is not feasible without massive rewritting of the existing code, so again, i have no plans any time soon to allow usage of a third party mailer. I would much rather hear where adepts mailer is lacking in features, and work on adding those features to it. (It's a pretty comprehensive mailer as it is.) > Thanks for you thoughts on the above matters................:-) You're welcome... ... Mario :-) --- AdeptXBBS v1.09.36 (*FREEWare*) * Origin: The DogStar BBS TelNet or FTP To: dogstar.bbs.dyndns.com 1:222/10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00002 Date: 05/07/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 08:58pm \/To: ROGER NELSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Adept keeps comin' Roger Nelson wrote in a message to Jack Stein: JS> Is Adept graphical or text based, is my question? RN> From the File_Id.Diz: RN> multi-threaded, multi-line, PM BBS That leaves me out. I've never seen a PM based app I liked, nor a WINDOWS app I liked. I certainly wouldn't want a graphical BBS, but thats *my* problem, not adepts of course. I hate GUI stuff *almost* entirely. RN> This is an old DIZ, Jack, and I'm sure they have added many RN> more features to it and one I'd like to see is a screen RN> saver. OS/2 has a built in screen saver, why not use that? Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00003 Date: 05/07/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 09:07pm \/To: ROBERT BUTLER (Read 0 times) Subj: LoraBBS Robert Butler wrote in a message to All: RB> NEW LORA RELEASED! A couple of questions: Is Lora text based or GUI? Is it freeware or shareware? Are you the same Robert Butler that wrote/writes QBOOK? RB> much more. Available for DOS, OS/2, Windows RB> (NT and 95) and Linux operating systems. OS/2 and Linux... VERY interesting. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00004 Date: 05/07/97 From: JACK STEIN Time: 09:15pm \/To: BILL BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: New AdeptXBBS Files Bill Brown wrote in a message to Moderator: BB> PLEASE intervene in these postings from Our Daily Spam! Please send your complaints via netmail, so we don't need to skip them too. I don't mind skipping on-topic messages you call spam, but I hate skipping off topic messages. Don't you think the moderator knows what is being posted? Do you think what bothers you should bother everyone? I don't understand why you need to post a bunch of off-topic messages to get rid of messages you don't wish to read. One is more than enough to get your point across, and you did, so unless you have something new to add there would seem no reason to keep repeating yourself. Jack --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Jack's Free Lunch 4OS2 USR16.8 Pgh Pa (412)492-0822 (1:129/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00005 Date: 05/07/97 From: BRYAN HANDFIELD Time: 11:31pm \/To: EVERY ADEPT SYSOP (Read 0 times) Subj: Message Base storage.. Hello Every Adept Sysop! Will Adept Support any other message base format other than it's *OWN* style? Will it support JAM, Hudson, Squish, etc??? Thanks for your time. Bye, Bryan! --- FleetStreet 1.19+ * Origin: Safe Haven - Stony Plain.AB.CANADA (1:342/516) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00006 Date: 05/08/97 From: LARRY THRASHER Time: 08:36am \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: os2 . - = [ Tony Screamed in the Night to Larry ] = - . TL> We'll return to Larry Thrasher and Tony Langdon's TL> discussion of os2 TL> How much RAM have you got in your system? LT> 16 Megs :( I know.. another 16 going in soon. TL> 16 is fine for a non-networked system. 32 for networked. :-) TL> I use 32 meg, and it's quite comfortable most of the time (with OS/2 TL> Peer and TCP/IP running). :-) Well it's working pretty good but when I shift windows CTL+ESC it dumps the Mailer Call.. User, Connect or whatever if it isn't in a firm handshake it dumps them when I jump to their window. :( I think the second 16 would help.. besides when are you going to be able buy 16 meg chips for 60-70 bucks again :) TL> ... If you smoke after sex, you're doing it too fast. Larry Thrasher,yrral@pen.net,1:3612/650! ... Stealing Tagline, Checking Spelling, Saving New Tag to Disk! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 OS/2 --- GEcho 1.10/gamma * Origin: TnT Bbs,NwFl's Rg Rpg Max Ip Hq's 904.937.9144 (1:3612/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00007 Date: 05/08/97 From: ANDY ROBERTS Time: 03:32pm \/To: ROLAND SCHIRADIN (Read 0 times) Subj: Adept release v109.28 Roland Schiradin, 07-May-97 23:28:10, Roland Schiradin wrote to Andy Roberts Subject: Adept release v109.28 BK>>>> OK, I won't send it out TODAY.........! RS>>> Thank you :-) What about this week? AR>> This is getting ridiculous. RS> Sure. I'm glad you understand how ridiculous your msgs are. AR>> It just goes to show that no matter what the Adept supporters AR>> do, you and some others (that don't use Adept) will never be AR>> satisfied with any competition. RS> Oh no no no, sure I'm not not a Adept-User Since that is so obvious, my recommendation is for you to send an AreaFix to disconnect from this echo and all other echoes that are not dedicated strictly to the software that you do use. That way you won't get upset about learning how much faster Adept is developing than what you use. You won't have to press any key to skip a msg you are not interested in and you won't have to complain. And most of all we won't have to read and reply to your complaints. Then we can go back to learning about what's new instead of listening to you. AR>> But that is no reason to stop development on Adept. RS> Did I ask to stop development on Adept? Yes, by your implication to suppress information about it's development. Development kept a secret from the public is no development at all. The information you are trying so hard to suppress is not about the details of code not available to the public because it is still in the process of development, rather you are trying to suppress the results of development that the public can have access to IF they find out it exists. RS> I only complain about a weekly and duplicate announcement The number of your complaints has completely exceeded the 2 announcements about the same version that came from 2 different sources. AFAIK the second source was the result of a new FDN. And before your complaints those 2 people already made efforts to coordinate their announcements. Thus your other complaints have merely been about how rapidly Adept development has progressed. To demand that someone can only make progress less than once a week is ridiculous. And that for the most part is what you have been implying. OTOH if you would wait at least a week before posting your complaints, then the dupe announcement complaint would not have been necessary at all. And the number of complaints would not exceed the number of announcements. IMO the only thing faster and more abundant than Adept development is the ridiculous complaints. RS>>> Many peole, including me, are very happy about this. AR>> ROTFL, I love ironic jokes. RS> This is your mind, not my. If you are so very happy about Adept development, then why complain? AR>> provided they are directly related to OS2BBS and not just some AR>> msgs claiming to be the only OS/2 prgms you want to read AR>> about. RS> So why do we need special echo? We need special echoes that are strictly limited to software that you use so that we have someplace to tell you where to go. We need this echo so that others who are not so narrow minded can find out about new developments in software other than just what you use. Our interests are not limited to a small elite group of testers who already know about Adept and thus want the newer versions. Our interests also extend to the general public that does not know about Adept and may be interested in more than just what they are already using. The vast majority of the public would prefer software that is actively being developed. Your ridiculous msgs trying to suppress information about new Adept developments is not at all in the best interest of the general public. If you wonder why I can laugh about the ironic jokes that have surfaced in several msgs in this thread, then consider this: "To suppress a truth gives it force beyond endurance." Thanks and Good Luck, Andy Roberts NetMail 1:109/921.1 andy@shentel.net --- Terminate 4.10g02/Pro*at * Origin: USA TEAM TERMINATE TSR TERMINATE SUPPORT REGISTRATIONS (1:109/921.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E5D00008 Date: 05/08/97 From: ANDY ROBERTS Time: 04:09pm \/To: LAWRENCE LUCIER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Adept and Trident TGUI9680XGi Lawrence Lucier, 07-May-97 12:28:50, Lawrence Lucier wrote to Mario Dulisse Subject: Re: Adept and Trident TGUI9680XGi LL> I have looked at/installed various releases of AdeptBBS ever LL> since the days when it was still a shareware product and find LL> that there definitely are some features of Adept BBS that I LL> would like to incorporate...........the biggest drawbacks from LL> making a switch to it though are the absence of Squish support LL> and to a certain extent being limited to using only the LL> default front end. That's interesting because I can't imagine why I would need Squish or any other front end when what is in adept works perfectly and does everything I need and more. But then I didn't go out a pay to register a lot of 3rd-party prgms to put together a system. So when I did register Adept I didn't feel like I was throwing way a lot of money for useless obsolete prgms that did nothing more than what Adept had integrated. Are your "drawbacks" based on giving up prgms you already paid for or some practical function? Thanks and Good Luck, Andy Roberts NetMail 1:109/921.1 AdeptNet 55:730/101 andy@shentel.net --- Terminate 4.10g02/Pro*at * Origin: USA TEAM TERMINATE TSR TERMINATE SUPPORT REGISTRATIONS (1:109/921.1)