--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00017 Date: 03/27/97 From: DAN COOK Time: 10:53am \/To: W.S. LOCKWOOD III (Read 0 times) Subj: VModem The standard Binkley would not work with VMODEM for me. I had to use the 2.60 XE for it to work. I don't recall teh exact problem I had with it, but it sounds like what is happening to you. Maximus in wait for caller (WFC) mode works fine with VMODEM as does the 2.60 XE version of Binkley. Of course, I've also done the patch to all to use SIOCOMM instead of MAXCOMM LL. - Dan --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Pebble BBS (1:202/1207) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00018 Date: 03/25/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:17am \/To: PETER ROUTLEDGE (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system It's 23 Mar 97 21:02:18, We'll return to Peter Routledge and Tony Langdon's discussion of Running on a minimal system PR> Try TSHELL. PR> It's IBM EWS and seems pretty reliable. If I remember correctly, PR> it lets you do pretty much what you're asking and perhaps a little PR> more (eg I think you can run either PM or Win-OS/2 as well, but PR> I can't remember which one). I have a copy here (dated 1993 or 1994). It works fine, except that that after I open a DOS session, all OS/2 sessions and TSHELL itself display as "black on black". I can run commands and see the cursor, but I can't see any text in OS/2 sessions. DOS sessions are unaffected. Any ideas on the cause? PR> You can get if from Hobbes or just about any of the OS/2 CD-ROMs PR> (I reckon). I might try and see if the employees have been busy after hours, since my copy was released. :-) Hopefully, it's a bug that has been fixed. ... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"... --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00019 Date: 03/25/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:20am \/To: JAME CLAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Vmodem It's 23 Mar 97 03:35:26, We'll return to Jame Clay and Tony Langdon's discussion of Vmodem JC> And what determines the # of free sessions? TL> The number of Vmodem ports you have configured. JC> That's what I thought.... Hopefully you're up to speed on Vmodem? :-) It really is a bit like conventional modems on a rotary line, as far as operation is concerned. :-) With a rotary, you dial one number, and the first free line will answer. Vmodem is the same. :-) ... BOSS spelled backwards is Double S-O-B --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00020 Date: 03/25/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:22am \/To: JUSTIN BAUSTERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system It's 23 Mar 97 18:02:48, We'll return to Justin Baustert and Tony Langdon's discussion of Running on a minimal system TL> I'm looking at making some changes around here, and due to increased TL> Internet use, and needing to keep up with applications, it looks as TL> though I'm going to have to ditch OS/2 on this machine, in favour of TL> Windows NT Workstation. JB> Please tell us *specifically* which applications Warp is falling JB> behind in.. I'd like to know if you don't mind.. Where do I start? Most new Internet applications are either 32 bit only, or the 16 bit version is either dated or buggy. Too many to name, but if you're on the Internet, it won't take long to come across them. :-( Examples I've seen: mIRC 4.72 - 16 bit version won't run under Win-OS/2. Is buggy under real Windows. PIRCH - 16 bit version is dated, missing key features of the Win 95 version. (I haven't found an OS/2 IRC client I like yet). Various speech applications - 16 bit version generally lacks features of the 32 bit version, and sometimes is no longer under development. Commonwealth Bank banking system (Australian bank which is offering online services) - The Win 3.x version of the client uses Win32S 1.30, which I believe Warp doesn't support (highest I've heard of support for is 1.25). No plans for an OS/2, Macintosh or other version. I could easily look around my shareware files and find more examples (I generally download both 16 and 32 bit versions when they both exist, not to mention OS/2, of course :-) ). ... Ethernet (n): Something used to catch the etherbunny. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00021 Date: 03/25/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:32am \/To: MATT ION (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system It's 24 Mar 97 01:20:06, We'll return to Matt Ion and Tony Langdon's discussion of Running on a minimal system MI> And what is it NT will do in this regard that can't be done in OS/2? A lot of current Internet applications. OS/2 version often doesn't exist, Win16 version often dated, buggy or incompatible (read my last message). Besides being a tinkerer, I also need to keep up with the latest trends, so I can offer an informed opinion to my users on our ISP.... MI> I've been running a BBS (Maximus/2, Bink/2, Squish/2) on a 386DX40 for MI> years. When Warp 3 came out, it ran in 4MB RAM, including the HPFS MI> drives and 256k RAM disk. Using Filebar in place of the WPS made the MI> biggest difference. And networking? I think that's a big overhead, but it's vital here... TL> All applications are text mode (a mixture of DOS and OS/2 TL> applications), so I can (and intend to, since the system has a CGA TL> monitor) do away with the GUI components of OS/2, which will save a TL> heap of much needed RAM. MI> Try TSHELL, IBM EWS available on Hobbes ftp/www site, or from your MI> friendly neighborhood OS/2 BBS. Has there been an update in the last couple of years? I've had trouble with getting my copy running here (read last message for details of the problem). ... Science asks why. I ask why not. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00022 Date: 03/25/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 07:36am \/To: ANDREW CLARKE (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system It's 25 Mar 97 16:55:56, We'll return to andrew clarke and Tony Langdon's discussion of Running on a minimal system ac> What does this "limited memory" comprise of? 4Mb? 8Mb? You may be ac> able to run the Presentation Manager at a usable speed if you disable ac> the WPS and put something else in its place, eg. MSHELL. If not, ac> TSHELL is the only option (that I know of) for operating OS/2 as a ac> multitasker in text-only mode. Currently 4MB (may improve with time :) ). ac> I think you might have trouble with networking under TSHELL. You may ac> need to run your networking applications from the Presentation ac> Manager. That might be the cause of my video problems (read earlier message). ac> I'm not sure it's possible to install OS/2 Warp on a CGA system. You ac> may need to temporarily plug in a VGA card and monitor to install it, Not a problem. This system will be moved to the other machine, once it's configured for text only mode. :-) ac> then plug the CGA card and monitor back into the machine after you've ac> modified your CONFIG.SYS to set OS/2 to run in text-only mode. I'm ac> not entirely sure it'll work like that though. OS/2 does support CGA, according to the docs I have... ac> The best way would be to buy more RAM, and upgrade to a VGA card and ac> mono/color VGA monitor, and run the Presentation Manager without the ac> WPS loaded. Whether or not you can afford to do this is another ac> matter though. :-) Well, that question will be answered in the next few weeks. :-) ... Censorship is something I do like! --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00023 Date: 03/26/97 From: STEVE MATHESON Time: 06:50pm \/To: ROBIN IWAMOTO (Read 0 times) Subj: Spawning OS/2 Window Hi Robin, <=- 26-Mar-97 Robin wrote to Steve Subject: Spawning OS/2 Window -=> SM>> Whats needed to spawn an OS/2 window to run a program in the SM>> backround? I know it can be done but not sure if the command/util SM>> is provided by Warp 3 or a third party utility. RI> HStart will do this. FREQ HSTART05.ZIP. OS/2's START command will do RI> this too; although IMO HStart is much more configurable. Its amazing how helpful everyone is in this echo. I FREQ'd the file and am reading the docs now thanks a bunch! Since I plan to spawn new sessions to handle all processing would setting enviornment variables in these spawned sessions work as flags? I ask this cuz one session will need to know when another has finished. Back when I ran DV i had to use actual files as flags because of the delay and locking or environments. Ŀ Posted by Steve The Warped Hobbit --- Terminate 1.51/Pro * Origin: Three cheers for Warp...and Four cheers for Merlin! (1:348/807.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00024 Date: 03/27/97 From: SCOTT DRAKE Time: 04:04pm \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system Hi Tony! On Tuesday March 25 1997 at 07:22, Tony Langdon wrote to Justin Baustert: TL>> I'm looking at making some changes around here, and due to TL>> increased Internet use, and needing to keep up with applications, TL>> it looks as though I'm going to have to ditch OS/2 on this TL>> machine, in favour of Windows NT Workstation. JB>> Please tell us *specifically* which applications Warp is falling JB>> behind in.. I'd like to know if you don't mind.. TL> Where do I start? Most new Internet applications are either 32 bit TL> only, or the 16 bit version is either dated or buggy. Too many to TL> name, but if you're on the Internet, it won't take long to come across TL> them. :-( TL> Examples I've seen: TL> mIRC 4.72 - 16 bit version won't run under Win-OS/2. Is buggy under TL> real Windows. Why use mIRC, never liked it anyway! TL> PIRCH - 16 bit version is dated, missing key features of the Win 95 TL> version. TL> (I haven't found an OS/2 IRC client I like yet). Then you haven't used the IRC Client from InterNet Adventuer, I only load the IRC module and it runs great! I have 10 open windows at any onetime to keep some channels open on my IRC server! TL> I could easily look around my shareware files and find more examples TL> (I generally download both 16 and 32 bit versions when they both TL> exist, not to mention OS/2, of course :-) ). I don't see where OS/2 is lacking, I run a ISP as well as a Virtual Web Server Business and OS/2 has all the utilities I could ever hope for! Regards, Scott sdrake@isonline.com --- Get Connected, get OS/2 v4 * Origin: 5 megs of Web Space only 16.95 a mo (info@isonline.com) (1:2630/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00025 Date: 03/27/97 From: SCOTT DRAKE Time: 04:08pm \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Running on a minimal system Hi Tony! On Tuesday March 25 1997 at 07:32, Tony Langdon wrote to Matt Ion: MI>> And what is it NT will do in this regard that can't be done in MI>> OS/2? Nothing! TL> A lot of current Internet applications. OS/2 version often doesn't TL> exist, Win16 version often dated, buggy or incompatible (read my last TL> message). Besides being a tinkerer, I also need to keep up with the TL> latest trends, so I can offer an informed opinion to my users on our TL> ISP.... What InterNet Utilities can't you find for OS/2? Regards, Scott sdrake@isonline.com --- Get Connected, get OS/2 v4 * Origin: 5 megs of Web Space only 16.95 a mo (info@isonline.com) (1:2630/212) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 251 OS2 BBS Ref: E3W00026 Date: 03/27/97 From: SCOTT DRAKE Time: 04:10pm \/To: JAN HUGO PRINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Maindoor/2 Hi Jan! On Wednesday March 26 1997 at 00:08, Jan Hugo Prins wrote to Colin Lean: JP> Hello Colin, MV>>> There hasn't been a version of frontdoor in 2 years.. CL>> Another blackhole product :-) JP> I heard there was a W95 version of Frontdoor. NOT! They barely have a DOS version of Front Door! There is APX point system though! Regards, Scott sdrake@isonline.com --- Get Connected, get OS/2 v4 * Origin: 5 megs of Web Space only 16.95 a mo (info@isonline.com) (1:2630/212)