--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00035 Date: 04/26/98 From: DAVE GOSTL Time: 04:10am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: ENERGY ABSORBING BUMPER I'm delurking in this echo again :-) And my question is, can I just pull the front bumper out after it was pushed in during a 5mph crash? Its a '76 Cutlass. I've looked through the Fisher Body repair books but there is no info about how to fix one of these. Is it really a non-repairable item? I don't think the Gov't will go after me if I bypass regulations trying to fix it :-) I need to paint the car but the bumper is jammed about 2 inches into the plastic filler panels. So a paint job would be wasted unless I fix this first. Thanks for any advice, _ 3 Dave Gostl 7 847 78% 1:396/44 *!!!* http://www.sstar.com/d/ ... Live not on evil. /// ReJoinDer v1.4 ( Registered ) --- PCBoard (R) v15.23/M 2 * Origin: The French Quarter 504-891-1388 Fido:1:396/44 (1:396/44) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00036 Date: 04/20/98 From: ROB MCCART Time: 01:49pm \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: MC fuel tank RT#After cutting the bolt off, repairing the hole, a tad of Bondo, and some #elbow grease sanding it, she looks like new. We're just about ready for #the final paint job. Right now, I really pleased with the results. Glad it worked out for you. With the constant curves of a motorcycle gas tank the final smoothing is really tricky. I did a LOT of them over the years - often on tanks that had been scrapped as unfixable by other shops. You almost need to be a freehand sculpter to get it just right - especially when you're putting on a super glossy show-paint job which shows up every flaw... 3 coats of filler-primer, 6 coats of base colour laquer, then all the design work, then 3 or 4 coats of clear - lightly sanded inbetween, then super fine wet sanding (1500 grit) and then one final very wet coat of clear and then hand polished using Turtle White Polishing Compound. BTW... never heard whether you considered trying my trick with the bathroom plunger for pulling the dent out. Did you see that note? --- # SLMR Rob # Pornography: The erotic pictures that YOU don't like # # PDQWK 1.2 #53 --- * Origin: NetComm BBS 303-730-7045 (1:104/603.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00037 Date: 04/20/98 From: ROB MCCART Time: 02:03pm \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: TCC Lockup JP# Yeah, the weight has only dropped a couple of hundred pounds for SOME models #through all of time, they just got smaller. I don't know about 'across the board' but I do know that my old '66 Chevelle SS was about 3600 lbs and my (old) '83 Thunderbird, which was about the same size, weighed in at about 2900 lbs - and a LOT of newer little cars are coming in under 2000 lbs - unheard of at one time. I figure most of it is just a cost saving measure, using the excuse that 'lighter is more fuel efficient'. We all know the the body panels on new vehicles aren't as thick as they were 'back when'... B) --- # SLMR Rob # Egomaniac: Freak for large birds # # PDQWK 1.2 #53 --- * Origin: NetComm BBS 303-730-7045 (1:104/603.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00038 Date: 04/20/98 From: ROB MCCART Time: 02:07pm \/To: GARY HALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Thermostats GH# Looks worse than it is just be sure the thermostat is in it's # grove or the housing WILL BREAK. A boxed end wrench works the best # you may have to move the distributor the TFI module will be in the # way. Distributer? It's miles away on this model. (300cid inline 6 Ford F150) The only thing that looks like it may cause a problem is some small attachment with a couple of wires coming out of it. Near as I can tell anyways. I'll have a closer look before starting in... Thanks for the input --- # SLMR Rob # Vegetarian(n):ancient native word meaning "lousy hunter"! # PDQWK 1.2 #53 --- * Origin: NetComm BBS 303-730-7045 (1:104/603.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00039 Date: 04/27/98 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 11:56am \/To: ROB MCCART (Read 0 times) Subj: TCC Lockup While tripping merrily through the mail, Rob Mccart was overheard RM> I don't know about 'across the board' but I do know that my RM> old '66 Chevelle SS was about 3600 lbs and my (old) '83 RM> Thunderbird, which was about the same size, weighed in RM> at about 2900 lbs - and a LOT of newer little cars are RM> coming in under 2000 lbs - unheard of at one time. Then there was my '65 Olds 88 ragtop with the 425. 5600 pounds! They sure don't make 'em like that any more :-) Don ... How come I get all the hard questions? --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 8.4 GIG * RA/FD/FE * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00040 Date: 04/14/98 From: JOHN FAERBER Time: 12:32am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Engine Knock 88 Toronado V-6 3.8 engine. Engine started knoching on Sat night while running at idle louder in gear than in Park. Give it a little gas and the knocking goes away. Problem is that it has a Serpentine belt on it where unlike the older cars pop off one belt at a time and the cause is found. I pulled off the belt and let the engine run for about 30 seconds and no knocking. Autozone swore it was a bad bearing in the water pump, now I have a fresh water pump but still the knock remains. The remaining culprits are: Alternator, P/S pump, and the belt tensioner. Which one is the most likely culprit as I do not have a surplus of $$ to repalce this stuff one at a time until I get rid of the knock? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: * MacSavvy OS/2 BBS * Dallas, Texas * 972-250-4479 * (1:124/1208) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00041 Date: 04/13/98 From: MARK LOGSDON Time: 09:52pm \/To: BILL MITCHELL (Read 0 times) Subj: MC fuel tank BM> ML> If the tank is full, then it should freeze uniformly. The BM> BM> I assume you've never dealt with water freezing inside a container. The BM> water will usually freeze on the top, the ice will form a seal and the BM> remaining liquid will be under great pressure. In addition, ice takes BM> about 11% more volume than liquid water. The results will be very BM> unpredictable, whatever is the weakest point will probably fail. That BM> could be a seam, another undamaged area, probably not the desired dent BM> anyway. Bill, obviously I've frozen water in a container. I'm sure that was just a patronizing question intended to insult me. Nevertheless, I'm not surprised someone made such a comment. The fact is that once the water is fully frozen, the freezing will be uniform. That's what I meant. If you lower the temperature below 32F (0C), then the water in the container will be fully frozen. BM> ML> temperature) as a baseline, then the greatest expansion is at BM> ML> 4C which is only an increase in density of 0.3%. In other BM> BM> Duh... BUT it's about 11% as ice opposed to liquid water. It's the BM> reason why 1/9th of an iceberg is visable above water, and 8/9ths is BM> submerged. Don't give me that "Duh" crap, Bill. I don't deserve such insults. The fact is that I did make a typo. The greatest CONTRACTION is at 4C. That's the highest density which is why I said it was an increase in density of 0.3%. That's a fact that I got from the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. Many people believe that the density is greatest at freezing but it isn't. The fact that the density is greatest at 39F (4C) is the reason that ice will float. Lindeberg in his Mechanical Engineering Reference Manual shows density of water as 62.42 lbm/cuft @32F, 62.43 lbm/cuft @40F, and 62.41 lbm/cuft @50F. Notice that the density is greatest at 40F. As you can see, the expansion from 40F to 32F is trivial (about 0.2%). You could heat the water to 212F (just below boiling) where the density is 59.82 lbm/cuft. The expansion from 40F to 212F would be about 4%. That would be the greatest expansion without boiling. By the way, Bill, you're normally a pretty nice guy, so I'll overlook this and just assume you're having a bad day. ;) --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0232 * Origin: IBMNet Connection - Indpls, IN - 317-882-5575 28.8 USR (1:231/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00042 Date: 04/13/98 From: MARK LOGSDON Time: 09:52pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Timing belt lifespan? RW> ML> How do you know that there's not some high resistance in series RW> with ML> the battery somewhere? RW> RW> Because it not in the vehicle? I don't understand your comment. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0232 * Origin: IBMNet Connection - Indpls, IN - 317-882-5575 28.8 USR (1:231/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00043 Date: 04/14/98 From: ROY WITT Time: 06:00pm \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Timing belt lifespan? *** Answering a msg posted in area MYMAIL (Roy's personal mail). On, 13 Apr 98 at 21:52, Mark Logsdon was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to Roy Witt about "Timing belt lifespan?",: ML> * Forwarded from area 'AUTOMOTIVE' ML> ML> RW> ML>> How do you know that there's not some high resistance in series RW>> with ML> the battery somewhere? RW>> RW>> Because it not in the vehicle? ML> ML> I don't understand your comment. The battery that was being discussed, isn't in any vehicle. It's on the bench with nothing connected to it...so, I know there's no high resistance in series with it... ... Chevy conquers Baja 1000 - 1996 --- T(W)itt Filter Tossed v1.13 * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been there, WON that! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00044 Date: 04/15/98 From: GARY HALL Time: 12:54am \/To: ROB MCCART (Read 0 times) Subj: Thermostats On (07 Apr 98) Rob Mccart wrote to Gary Hall... RM> Okay... Thanks for the input. I was just looking at it to see RM> what's involved. Looks a lot better hidden then on older cars Looks worse than it is just be sure the thermostat is in it's grove or the housing WILL BREAK. A boxed end wrench works the best you may have to move the distributor the TFI module will be in the way. good luck Gary --- PPoint 2.02 * Origin: Terlton the Oklahoma Jungle 74081 (1:170/302.16)