--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F4F00002 Date: 04/10/98 From: RICK MCBROOM Time: 08:03am \/To: JAN DEBOER (Read 0 times) Subj: Engineering??????? -=> Quoting Jan Deboer to Rob Mccart <=- RM>> Some whiz later discovered that you could cut a small RM>> hole in the inner fender and just remove the wheel to RM>> get at it with the right tools - but for a while there, RM>> there were a lot of Gremlins that had never had their RM>> rear plugs changed. Late 70s Camaro's are the same way; you've got to remove the front passenger side wheel & go through the fenderwell to change the back plugs. At least GM put the access hole in at the factory, though.. JD> Didn't the Chev Monza with a V-6 have the same sort of problem - JD> IIRC you had to loosen the rear engine mount and jack up the JD> engine to do the back plugs! Nope, that was the V-8 Monza. JD> You could clamber in there and stand beside the engine to work on it! Heh. Yeah, I miss that, too. ... "The Edsel is here to stay." -Henry Ford II, 12-07-1957 --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Music Room, Memphis TN (901) 452-2134 (1:123/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F4F00003 Date: 04/10/98 From: MARK LOGSDON Time: 10:47am \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Timing belt lifespan? YY> How do you know that there's not some high resistance in series with YY> the battery somewhere? That would permit a normal open-circuit YY> reading and would probably allow a decent charge but would limit the YY> higher output currents. I'd better explain my second sentence. "Open-circuit" reading means "open-circuit" voltage reading, i.e., no-load voltage. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0232 * Origin: IBMNet Connection - Indpls, IN - 317-882-5575 28.8 USR (1:231/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F4F00004 Date: 04/07/98 From: DON BLEVINS Time: 09:57pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Heavy Equip. echo? Uhmmm...lemme see here...this is obviously not a forum for Diesel/Heavy Equip., but...does any one know of such a forum? Reason why I ask here as this is the first time on Fido that I knew of this "Automotive" echo...not to mentioned the fact that I just embarked on a two year tech degree in those areas.I would be most interested in hearing from someone that knows for sure where i could find such a forum...be nice to discuss things with others... Thanks! and re: all.... --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: AT LAST BBS! (1:346/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F4G00000 Date: 04/11/98 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 05:44pm \/To: DON BLEVINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Heavy Equip. echo? While tripping merrily through the mail, Don Blevins was overheard DB> Uhmmm...lemme see here...this is obviously not a forum for DB> Diesel/Heavy Equip., but...does any one know of such a forum? Reason DB> why I ask here as this is the first time on Fido that I knew of this DB> "Automotive" echo...not to mentioned the fact that I just embarked on DB> a two year tech degree in those areas.I would be most interested in DB> hearing from someone that knows for sure where i could find such a DB> forum...be nice to discuss things with others... You might try OLD ENGINES. We're more into nostalgia there, but some of the fellows are pretty knowledgable. Don ... When I want your opinion I'll tell you what it is. --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 8.4 GIG * RA/FD/FE * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F4G00001 Date: 04/11/98 From: ROY WITT Time: 06:36am \/To: DON BLEVINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Heavy Equip. echo? On, 07 Apr 98 at 21:57, Don Blevins was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to All about "Heavy Equip. echo?",: DB> Uhmmm...lemme see here...this is obviously not a forum for DB> Diesel/Heavy Equip., but...does any one know of such a forum? Reason DB> why I ask here as this is the first time on Fido that I knew of this DB> "Automotive" echo...not to mentioned the fact that I just embarked on DB> a two year tech degree in those areas.I would be most interested DB> in hearing from someone that knows for sure where i could find such a DB> forum...be nice to discuss things with others... DB> Thanks! and re: all.... There's a plethora of HE info in OLD-ENGINES. However, be forewarned, the topic is old engines. The moderator allows the topic to stray, but how far he'll let it go, who knows. There's at least 5 guys there who have lots of experience in HE... When you get there, tell Elvis Hargrove (moderator) I sent you, he'll love ya forever... ... C5 Corvette - World Class #'s thru the Slalom. --- T(W)itt Filter Tossed v1.13 * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been there, WON that! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00000 Date: 05/11/98 From: JOHN FAERBER Time: 10:34pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Timing RW> Well, you don't say which engine it is. If it's the RW> 3.8L V6 (your vins' seventh digit will be a 3, 7 or C) RW> or the 3.0L V6 (vin L), these engines have what they It is the 3.8 V-6 has a square box that the plug wires come out of. This is what takes the place of the distributor? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: * MacSavvy OS/2 BBS * Dallas, Texas * 972-250-4479 * (1:124/1208) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00001 Date: 04/12/98 From: BILL MITCHELL Time: 03:29am \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: MC fuel tank JW>> RT> This weekend a buddy suggested filling the tank with water and JW>> RT> freezing it. Theoretically, when the water expands, it will force JW>> the RT> dent out. Sounds plausible, simple, painless, and by far the JW>> easiest. JW>> Eek!! I would stay away from that. It doesn't expand THAT JW>> much, and it'd be highly unlikely that it would actually JW>> freeze in the right spot. Water isn't that intelligent. ML> If the tank is full, then it should freeze uniformly. The I assume you've never dealt with water freezing inside a container. The water will usually freeze on the top, the ice will form a seal and the remaining liquid will be under great pressure. In addition, ice takes about 11% more volume than liquid water. The results will be very unpredictable, whatever is the weakest point will probably fail. That could be a seam, another undamaged area, probably not the desired dent anyway. ML> real problem is that the expansion of the water (which by the ML> way, actually is greatest before it freezes at 4C or 39F) That's only while the water is liquid, and it's a very small increase, easily just results in a pressure increase. BUT the expansion when ice is formed is much greater, about 11%. ML> temperature) as a baseline, then the greatest expansion is at ML> 4C which is only an increase in density of 0.3%. In other Duh... BUT it's about 11% as ice opposed to liquid water. It's the reason why 1/9th of an iceberg is visable above water, and 8/9ths is submerged. --- * Origin: The Verplanck Point mitch@magsystems.com (1:2604/539.11) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00002 Date: 04/12/98 From: MARK LEWIS Time: 12:14pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Heavy Equip. echo? RW> HE... When you get there, tell Elvis Hargrove (moderator) I RW> sent you, he'll love ya forever... i'm sure! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... OB-) )\/(ark * Origin: (1:3634/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00003 Date: 04/12/98 From: RUBEN LOPEZ Time: 09:23pm \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: TCC Lockup RL> Block learn? What's that? How much does an O2 sensor run? JP> Block learn and the integrator are what you are JP> playing hell with by not having a thermostat. O2 JP> sensors are 25-50 bucks, depending on the model. JP> Block learn and the integrator are the areas in the JP> computer where it stores fuel to air ratios that JP> determine injector pulse width and the timing curve to JP> match. 128 is where both should be, within 4 or 5 JP> points, I would estimate yours is around 105. Oh, Then I better get to installing a thermostat, and an O2 sensor as well as having my computer checked. Ruben. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library FidoNet (1:397/5258) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F5G00004 Date: 04/07/98 From: ROB MCCART Time: 06:20pm \/To: GARY HALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Thermostats GH# Hi Bob Gary here # That 87 EFI Ford was designed to run from 195 to 210 deg F somewhere # near 95 to 100 C. If it is running cooler then it will run slightly # richer which may cause some injector cloging Fords are bad for that Okay... Thanks for the input. I was just looking at it to see what's involved. Looks a lot better hidden then on older cars I've owned - and low enough that you probably lose half your anti-freeze changing it. Dunno why they put it on the front of the motor rather than the top... but I'll get to it shortly. Just finished going through having the battery short internally one day ($135) followed by the starter dieing the very next day. Got the starter rebuilt rather than doing a trade-in since it was only a year old thinking to save some $$. I did save some ($55 instead of $120 cdn) and just about ended up with a new unit anyways. They replaced bushings and brushes and cleaned it up and, other than windings, I'm not sure what else they could have replaced... At least it's running again. Re: Thermostat, it just gets up into the lowest part of 'normal' right now. I'll keep an eye on it as the weather gets a bit warmer but will probably replace it pretty soon anyways... --- # SLMR Rob # There's a fine line between "open mind" and "empty head". # PDQWK 1.2 #53 --- * Origin: NetComm BBS 303-730-7045 (1:104/603.0)