--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00001 Date: 03/04/98 From: DARYL MACDONALD Time: 09:41pm \/To: ROBERT VAUGHN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Wheel torque RV> We are approaching 500 on a Ranger odometer. RV> Manual sez to torque the wheels at 500 miles and at 500 miles RV> after mounting a wheel. RV> Called my friendly service dept today and heard 100 ftlbs. RV> Seems a bit high to me. (Aluminum wheels and hope I don't have RV> to change a tire on the road) RV> Any advice or just carry a long bar in case I have to take one RV> of those suckers off away from the garage? RV> Bob V. RV> --- Maximus 3.01 RV> * Origin: Pocket Lint * 610-363-2617 * (1:273/304) That sounds right for the torgue to me. I have owned a couple of Fords, a 1986 ranger being one of them, and pretty much all of them call for 100 ft/lbs torque. Where I work we recomend retorquing the whells at 100km after removal for aluminium rims. --- AdeptXBBS v1.11z (FREEWare/2) * Origin: TGR Communications BBS/Fax (902) 477-5629 (1:251/35) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00002 Date: 03/04/98 From: DARYL MACDONALD Time: 09:46pm \/To: JASON WEDEHASE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Wheel torque JW> Robert Vaughn told the story like this: JW> RV> Called my friendly service dept today and heard 100 ftlbs. JW> RV> Seems a bit high to me. (Aluminum wheels and hope I don't have JW> RV> to change a tire on the road) JW> That's WAY too high. Aluminum?! I have casst iron cylinder JW> heads that aren't even that high. Just tighten em, ya know, with a tire JW> iron or whatever. It's not real important. They're probably fine JW> anyway. It's no science tightening lug nuts, just kinda put some effort JW> into it, and it's good. JW> JW> Jason Wedehase strife66@Psynet.net http://www.Psynet.net/strife66 JW> ... What, then, is the speed of dark? JW> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 JW> --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0154 JW> * Origin: MicroLink BBS * Dinuba, CA 209-591-8753 (1:214/80) I hate to tell you Jason, but with aluminium rims, it is VERY important that they be torqued properly. We have had cases of lug nuts coming off and damage being done because we didn't have them torqued properly. Trust me, when you get 2 or 3 bills for replacing aluminium rims, you start to make sure you are doing it right. --- AdeptXBBS v1.11z (FREEWare/2) * Origin: TGR Communications BBS/Fax (902) 477-5629 (1:251/35) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00003 Date: 03/04/98 From: TOM WALKER Time: 06:15pm \/To: JASON WEDEHASE (Read 0 times) Subj: Spark Plugs -> Kenny Henderson told the story like this: -> -> KH> I don't believe in Split Fires at all, and I'm betting everyone -> else -> KH> on here with a bit of real world racing experience will agree. -> (John, -> KH> Jason, Roy, Alan?) I think they are just a waste of money, I -> have -> KH> autolite platinums and they seem to be fine. -> -> Hey, don't group me with those fools!! =) Actually... a -> mechanic friend of mine put AC Delco RapidFires in his '90 Silverado. -> He said mileage went up 2MPG and even the actual shift points -> changed. It sounded a bit overly incredible to me, but geez, this is -> the best mechanic I've ever seen in my life. Splitfires are CRAP, Platinum is not all it is cracked up to be, Particularly the BOSCH Plugs, except it does make the electrodes last longer. BUT AC RapidFires WORK! --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00004 Date: 03/04/98 From: TOM WALKER Time: 06:19pm \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Vehicle Confiscation -> While tripping merrily through the mail, gary hall was overheard -> -> RW> )--(Headlight Switch)-+ Low -> RW> | beam -> RW> -> +-(Headlamp)-+---------------------!-(Ground) -> RW> ! ! -> RW> ! 220 ohm ! -> RW> ! 1/4 watt ! -> RW> !---------------(resistor)-!+ ! -> RW> ! ! -> RW> !+-(LED)! -> ML> RW> -> RW> Think of the headlamp filament as a switch. If the headlamp filam -> RW> dies (switch opens), no voltage can go to ground or to the LED... -> -> gh> What he is doing is turning the LED off if there is a bulb -> gh> Failure. -> -> No, as long as the resistance of the LED circuit is high enough, the -> LED should stay off unless the lamp burns out, then the LED would lig -> -> The headlight bulb is of sufficiently low resistance that as long as -> it is working it is effectively "shorting out" the LED. -> -> (On some of our Model RR power supplies we put a 6V high current bulb -> shunted around the fuse, which doesn't light unless the fuse blows, -> same principal here.) As long as the Resistance Ratios are right it DOES work and your example of the Blown fuse indicator is a perfect example. Of course when I suggested something similar as what you did I got Laughed off the Echo. Hope you have better luck. There are some HARD HEADS here. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00005 Date: 03/03/98 From: MARC GERGES Time: 10:23pm \/To: DEVIN DIMITRI (Read 0 times) Subj: 225 hp Neon? Salut Devin! MG>> Sure, there are a lot of Audis, BMW's and the like. But mostly MG>> the che ones, and they are slow (an Audi A4 with 90 or one with MG>> 100 hp is not extremely fast), and there are by far more smaller MG>> and slower cars. DD> Hmm, my perception of Europe was slightly wrong, then. I had thought DD> that most people in the non-Urban areas would have midsize sedans DD> that went fairly fast, then the people in the urban areas would have DD> those little two seat ecno-mobiles. I can only speak for central europe here. First we don't have any really non-urban areas here. It's hard to drive more then ten miles without finding a place big enough to have a church and a pub :) Then there is no two seat econocar on the market right now. At least none in high enough numbers to see them on the road often. Most cars sold here are in the so-called 'compact' class. That's car's like the Golf, the Toyota Corolla, the Renault Mgane etc. Not really big, expensive and fuel sucker but big enough for daily use and a longer trip now and then. Power is mostly in the 75 to 100 hp range. Then we have the 'small cars', with an overall length of 3,50 to 3,80 meters. 4- or 5-seater, although most of them can seat only two comfortably. Tipically they have between 50 and 80 hp. There are a lot of bigger cars around, of course, and quite a bunch of rather fast cars. But I guess small and compact cars make about 50 to 70 percent of the market, depending on where you live. And most of the bigger cars don't have really big engines... 115 to 140 hp is quite common with an Audi A4 or A6. DD> I still find it a little hard to comprehend a place where many many DD> people choose a car with fuel economy as the first thing on their DD> list. If you had our fuel prices, you'd find it quite logical :) But it stopped being just a matter of money - you see more and more expensive diesel cars around. Many people enjoy to drive most possible miles with a given amount of fuel and see it as a sport. I see it with my dad: he's driving a 1500kg station wagon with a 110hp diesel engine and is always trying to lower the fuel consumption. His best so far was 1400 km (875 miles) on 90 liters. He's very proud of that :) For the compact cars, I would always prefer the diesel engine to the gas engine. It has better fuel economy and is more fun to drive because it has better torque. And I like the diesel sound. cu .\\arc ... Dammit Bones .. I'm a captain, not a doctor! --- * Origin: sympathy for the debil (2:270/47) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00006 Date: 03/03/98 From: MARC GERGES Time: 10:09pm \/To: DEVIN DIMITRI (Read 0 times) Subj: 225 hp Neon? Salut Devin! DD>> Ok, let me clarify further. Indicated HP, which is what the DD>> formula i gave you determines, does not take into account DD>> friction or imperfect mixing of the fuel or backpressure or DD>> anything. It is a number that you can't determine experimentally DD>> because there are all the things I mentioned in the real world. MG>> A-ha. Which means all this calculating is basically brain massage MG>> with real results :-) DD> Well.....no. I does give you an idea of about how much horsepower DD> the engine should have, or, if you want to modify it, about how much DD> is the maximum you're going to get out of it. Mmmmh... I stay with my point. How much hp it should have doesn't mind, I'm interested in how much it has. And when I modify it, I'd prefer calculations that give me an accurate result of what modification will bring what increase in hp and torque. MG>> I see. I basically got the understanding of the formula (it took me MG>> an hour tough, with the conversions), but it's absolutely worthless MG>> for p use. DD> Yeah, but it's GREAT if you're going to program a racing DD> simulator! Mmmmh... well, that might be a point :) Ever thought of programming a racing simulator? I didn't... cu .\\arc ... Lottery: A tax on people who don't understand statistics --- * Origin: sympathy for the debil (2:270/47) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00007 Date: 03/03/98 From: MARC GERGES Time: 10:13pm \/To: DEVIN DIMITRI (Read 0 times) Subj: Active Handling Salut Devin! MG>> It's simple: she goes to fast, finds out she's too fast in a MG>> corner an goes off the accelerator. The car's front tires squeal MG>> and brake thems in the corner, she puts a lower gear in and off MG>> she goes :) DD> What happens if she hits sand in the middle of the turn? I guess she would find herself back in the botanics :-) But we have quite clean roads here, so that's hardly ever a problem. DD>> conditions, they are in the same situation as a RWD person. But DD>> if an MG>> fwd car (at least mine and my sister's too) is starting to s it MG>> is over the front tires and therefore losing a lot of momentum. MG>> Bui in security valve :) DD> Huh? Are Luxemborgian roads made in a drastically different manner DD> than American ones? No joke: they might be. I encountered completely different road surfaces just 200 miles away from here. And our and your tires aren't the same. So there might in fact be a noticeable difference in the maximal force that the road/tire combination can cope with. DD> Here, if you're going fast enough that your front wheels skid when DD> you turn, unless it's a highway on/off ramp or something, you're DD> going to go into the ditch on the other side of the road.... If that happens, you were not simply too fast, you were way too fast :) In any car there's a limit, and the best Ferrari will not save you when you take a 30 mph turn with 130. But in most cases the difference between civilised driving and 'oh my god we're going to die' is 10 or 20 mph. And in those cases a good fwd car skids on the front wheels, puts its rubber on the road and that brakes you down enough to get the car round. And it squeals absolutely frightening and brings your adrenaline to such a level you'll never do it again. At last not in that turn :) cu .\\arc ... Geraldo of Borg: Next, brothers who assimilate sisters. --- * Origin: sympathy for the debil (2:270/47) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F3D00008 Date: 03/05/98 From: JOHN FAERBER Time: 02:05am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: No messages? Have not seen any messages in here for the past several days, was wondering if it was just here or if everyone has gone on vacation? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: * MacSavvy OS/2 BBS * Dallas, Texas * 972-250-4479 * (1:124/1208)