--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2A00026 Date: 02/06/98 From: TOM WALKER Time: 10:59am \/To: MARC GERGES (Read 0 times) Subj: Active Handling -> AM> Well beginning this year it is no longer one of the quickest luxu -> AM> coupes being sold here. The Mercedes, BMW, and Lexus all got mor -> AM> power combined with a better weight bias. The nose-heavy Caddy -> AM> understeers a fair amount when driven hard. -> That's what a car should do. Show you when the limit is near. But a RWD car also shows yuo. you just need to PAY ATTENTION and Stop putting yuor brain in neutral and picking yuor Nose whiel driving agressiavely. Also the RWD car is FAR more forgiving if you push it too hard. -> To begin with, an FWD car is inherently stable on the road, not like -> car. And in turns the FWD car shows always the same behaviour: if -> you are frightened, step of the accelerator and everything will be -> fine. BUT the Natual thing to do when yuo find yourself beyong the limits is to BACK OFF. And in a FWD car that is almost 100% sure to result in a roll over. We see it all the time on the Califronia Freeways. Joe Cool comes whipping off the Interstate to suddenly realize he is going way too fast. He gets off the Accellerator and on the brake and Rolls the car. With the RWD car you typicaly just tear up the Ice plant and look foolish sitting out there in the Middle of it. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2A00027 Date: 02/06/98 From: SEAN DUNBAR Time: 11:35am \/To: JOHN FAERBER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: New car. Tada. JF> How about some details? Enough get up and do? (Nowhere near Lots of get up and go. Have to get the RPMs up a bit to start getting into that power, but once it hits about 2500 or so it'll leave my truck behind. Easily. My truck kills pretty much everything I come across through an intersection though, except for the late model Camaros :) Gotta love 300 lbs/ft torque @ 1600 RPM.. JF> what your truck has I would wager) The tradeoff though is JF> that $5 gas should take you further in this one than just JF> around the block like your truck! Good to hear you got a Heh. I get a LITTLE (not much) farther on $5 :) $5 gets me to work, and to lunch. But doesn't get me back home. I go through about $10 of gas every day. Seller claims that's about how much he goes through in a week driving from Richardson to downtown Dallas 8 days a week (about 10 miles each way). I wound up not getting it yesterday though; about to call the seller and have him meet me at the tax office, then follow me back to the apartment so I can get both my truck and the car here. Anyway... just hope it's not a lemon. Couldn't find anything else wrong with it.. ... "I was up all night trying to round off infinity..." --- Telegard v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: tos * 972-818-0339 - dallas texas (1:124/6630) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2A00028 Date: 02/06/98 From: MICHAEL SHARON Time: 11:04am \/To: CHARLES BOWMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Vehicle Confiscation -=> Quoting Charles Bowman to Michael Sharon <=- CB> MICHAEL SHARON wrote in a message to CHARLES BOWMAN: MS> Let's get realistic here shall we? First of all, when you are MS> moving the vehicle to correct the matter, hardly can this be MS> regarded as violating any law. CB> I think you're the one out of touch with reality. The original post CB> was about a person getting a ticket (written warning) while changing CB> his headlight in his own driveway. If that doesn't meet every one of CB> your criteria I don't know what does. CB> This whole thread has been beat to death and there is quite obviously CB> a difference of opinions that won't be resolved here. I'm sorry if you took that comment as an attack on you personally, Charles. I most certainly did not intend it in that way at all. And I do agree with you about the topic getting beaten to death. However, there is one interesting point that wasn't yet mentioned regarding the headlight issue. That is, if your going to purchase a new headlight, why not do so in the daytime when you don't need the headlights on? Sincerely, Michael Sharon ... Never ruin an apology with an excuse. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Tonys Corner Wildcat! Warren, MI. 99:1/530 (1:120/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00000 Date: 02/06/98 From: MARK LOGSDON Time: 07:29pm \/To: MARC GERGES (Read 0 times) Subj: 225 hp Neon? MG> DD> concept car. Also, it may actually be hp, instead of bhp. MG> MG> Where's the difference between hp and bhp? Is the latter british? :) BHP is brake horsepower. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0232 * Origin: IBMNet Connection - Indpls, IN - 317-882-5575 28.8 USR (1:231/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00001 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 06:53pm \/To: LORI HARVEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Brakes LH>Would somebody like to explain to me......When there are 4 sets of brakes on LH>ehicle, and on set goes bad, why doesn't the rest of them compensate for the LH> one. If one set doesn't stop you, why does the rest of the system quit wor LH>. I have a '85 Plymouth Voyager that my front right brake went out on, nd LH> after the whole system went kaputz. Ideas? Depends upon exactly what does kaputz mean and what excactly does "right front brake went our" mean. LH>--- Maximus 3.01 LH> * Origin: Iowa Midi BBS-Des Moines Ia(515)262-1370*28.8kUSR-DS (1:290/8) ___ OLX 2.1 TD Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00002 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 04:14pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Buying imports AM>-=> Quoting Marc Gerges to Alan Morrison <=- AM> AM> Harley-Davidson, has Japanese forks, carbs, and gauges. AM> MG> And those die hard patriots still buy them? :) AM>They became quite popular in Hollywood over the last decade or so, and AM>this makes things HOT. You must pay premium prices and usually wait AM>to get many models. These things are so well liked here, they don't AM>depreciate. I bought one some years ago and drove it for 4 years, AM>then sold it for $400 more than I paid. AM> > Lebenskuenstler machen sich nichts aus Zahnluecken. Sie pfeifen drauf. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Lebenskuenstler - Nothing can get him down: machen - make, cause, produce; sich - oneself, himself, themselves etc: aus - out; Zahnluecken - gap between the teeth; You figure the above part out! Suspect it's "Nothing can get him down. Just makes a gap in his teeth". Sie - you; pfeifen - whistle; drauf(darauf) - on it, or them, after that. Suspect it's "You whistle after that". AM> AM> What? Mie translater program ist kaput... AM> MG> Sorry, but I really cannot translate that, it only works in german. AM>You sure you ain't cussin' me in German? ;^) In other words, "He's happy, even if broke." My best guess. AM>--- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] AM> * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) ___ OLX 2.1 TD A nude cook needs to have long arms. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00003 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 06:49pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Ford Scan Codes AM>-=> Quoting JAY EMRIE to ALAN MORRISON <=- AM> JE> codes from my 19 Ford Crown Vic. EEC-IV and small V8 AT. AM> JE> I got the following KOEO codes with my scanner. 327, 215, 216. AM> JE> The info in my scanner book indicates 215 is Ignition system AM> JE> (distributorless) problem coil #1 primary side ckt fail... AM>Same here. AM> JE> The book says 327 is EGR valve position (EVP) sensor, Pressure AM> JE> Feedback EGR (PFE) sensor or EGR Pressure Transducer (EPT) - signal AM> JE> voltage too low. AM>Same again. AM> AM> JE> the check engine light came on again - intermittently. Sometimes fter AM> JE> stopping the engine and restarting (going into a store - etc.) it ill AM> JE> not come on. Other times it will. Too blasted wet and chilly to see f AM> JE> the codes are the same or not. AM>Does it only do it when damp out? Moisture shorting connectors, perhaps? AM>Since the codes are all related to voltage, I'd start by checking the AM>system voltage, which is standard procedure in diagnosing electrical AM>faults. Dampness does not seem to be a factor. Voltage is normal. AM> JE> Any insight would be appreciated. Maybe tomorrow the weather will be AM> JE> more agreeable and I'll have a new battery. Blasted car only has 000 AM>Could it be time for the cars Emission Service? You might ask the dealer AM>about this. AM>Sorry I'm not more help on it... My offer was to look up codes, which AM>you already did. The book I have gives a little more information on AM>component checks, but it's generic. After checking the above items let AM>me know if you suspect a particular item and I'll see if I can supply AM>any more information. Thanks a heap. Right now I'm tryingto recover from vertigo. :-((( ___ OLX 2.1 TD Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo! --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00004 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 04:23pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Timing AM>And the light can show late ignition timing, until someone corrects it. AM>To test for slop in the chain you can disable the advance mechanism and AM>blip the throttle while watching the marks with the timing light. There is a much better way which will give a very exact check on chain wear. Turn the engine MANUALLY in a reverse direction to exactly 0 degrees. Not start turning in in the other direction till the distributer rotor just starts to move -then STOP. You will now be able to read exactly the amount of chain stretch that exists. Very accurate! You can now figure exactly many degrees late your ignition timing is. Try it, you'll like it! ___ OLX 2.1 TD One person's is another's . --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00005 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 03:31pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Vehicle Confiscation RJT>JAY EMRIE wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON: RJT> JE> Speaking of the Cross Bronx - A few year back I was going to RJT> JE> New England for the fall colors towing my 32 ft travel trailer. RJT> JE> Had intended to take the freeways north on the west side of NYC RJT> JE> and turn east after I got north of NYC in order to miss what I RJT> JE> knew was the terrible afternoon rush traffic. RJT>Sounds like a good plan to me. RJT> JE> I think it was the NJ turnpike - any how I was driving in the RJT> JE> right hand land - after all I do not normally go faster than 55 RJT> JE> towing. RJT>How many lanes were there? Seems to me there are a whole *bunch* of them i RJT>t area. I don't think I'd stay in the right lane, just as a matter of avo RJT> ramp traffic. Normally the far right lane is the most logical lane to stay in in heavy traffic that is going faster than you care to - ESPECIALLY in totally new territory. RJT> JE> Got locked in that rt hand lane - NO ONE would give an inch to RJT> JE> let me get out of an exit only lane: RJT>I've coped with that sort of thing before by just _taking_ what I needed ou RJT>the adjacent lane. Or slowing down, speeding up, whatever it takes. I h RJT>me rather interesting times once in Montreal when I ended up on some expres RJT>up there and going across town when I didn't want to, pulling a small tent RJT>er trailer at the time. Speeding up 13,500 GCVW isn't much of an option when you are trying to mesh with car drivers that do NOT want to let you in. :-( ___ OLX 2.1 TD Emrie's addendum to Murphy's law:Murphy was an optimist! --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F2B00006 Date: 02/06/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 03:33pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Vehicle Confiscation RW>On, 03 Feb 98 at 13:23, RW>JAY EMRIE was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something o RW>WITT about "Vehicle Confiscation",: RW> RW> JP>> Also, please, no MANly pounding on the chest claiming to be THE RW> RW> JP>> MAN and always checking the bulbs to insure proper function. I RW> RW> JP>> try to stay on top of it too. That means there are two of us out RW> RW> JP>> of how many million cars that we are SURE get checked regularly RW> RW> JP>> ?? RW> JE> RW> RW>> Three! RW> JE> RW> JE> Since I do a lot of RV driving, I have developed a habit of EVERY RW> JE> time I hook up the trailer and get ready to pull out I check the RW> JE> functioning of ALL lights on my van and trailer. Considering I RW> JE> stretch out over 50' in length, MUST make WIDE right turns, and do RW> JE> not/can not drive at the speed limits when the limit is over 55 MPH I RW> JE> want to make sure I have done everything possible to prevent RW> JE> problems. Yes, I am very conscious of the mechanical aspects RW> JE> also. RW>As well you should be, Jay. And I commend you for being so diligent. RW> JE> Now about the family car. I do periodically check the lights, RW> JE> but no where near every time I get ready to drive. Probably maybe RW> JE> once a month of so. I feel I do check things FAR more than the RW> JE> average individual. RW>I didn't mean to imply that I did either. Just that I'm aware of all hose RW> around me that have lights burned out, no brake lights and so on. I want t RW>sure that someone following me doesn't get surprised when I apply the brake RW>that's why I take a look whenever I can... RW> JE> Any body that expects drivers to check the lights each time or even RW> JE> daily or weekly is just whistling in the wind. RW>I know a guy there in South Texas that might disagree with you. He's in the RW>it of making flight checks every time he's about to fly his airplane. hat RW>a habit grows on you if you do it daily. Well, Roy, I, too, was a pilot in WWII, and did exactly that before each take off. I'd bet a dollar to a donut he doesn't do it each and every time BEFORE he drives off in his car! I know I do NOT. ___ OLX 2.1 TD Teamwork is vital. It gives you someone else to blame. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23)