--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00015 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 03:08pm \/To: CHRIS ZYCHSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Escort -=> Quoting Chris Zychski to Alan Morrison <=- AM>also very slow. So where did everybody go? CZ> Shoveling/scraping snow? CZ> Origin: The Bearsville BBS * Warren, MI * (810) 582-9429 (1:120/650) How's driving conditions in MI, Chris? We have not had any snow, and I wonder what have all the southerners been doing... This week we have the Super Bowl, and the following weeks Daytona Speedweeks in addition to many other forms of racing beginning. Maybe it just got too cold for most to work on their cars and therefore less echo traffic... Or maybe Santa brought new toys that were more fun than the computer. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00016 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 04:04pm \/To: MARC GERGES (Read 0 times) Subj: Active Handling -=> Quoting Marc Gerges to TOM WALKER <=- TW> The Vauxhall name is almost totally unknown here in the US MG> So it is for continental europe. It's only the Brits who have them. I read exactly that about Vauxhaul... It is basically an Opel designed for the British market and British tastes. Originally an independent manufacturer it was bought by GM in 1925 after financial difficulties. In 1931 GM bought Opel and used the Opel designs as a base for Vauxhauls. MG> Do you happen to know the Opel GT? Baby Corvette, sold in the early MG> 70ies. Friend of mine says they have been sold in US too, but I don't MG> believe him... Yes, they were sold here and had the Coke bottle shape of the '68 to '82 Corvette. People soon learned that was all they had in common with them as they were small cars with tiny engines, much like the Kadett. Kadett's sold poorly here, compared to the GT, since they had a rather ugly shape and a somewhat cheap reputation. GM occasionally used Opel designs here, or parts, in their entry level vehicles. They typically had cheap interiors and few options, and it was sometimes difficult to find parts for them. The new Cadillac Catera may work out better since it is based on an excellent Opel platform. The only thing I don't like about it is the extra weight. It has a 200 horse V6 but carries about 3800 pounds. How much does the Opel Omega weigh on your side of the pond? --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00017 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 04:29pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: buying imports RJT> CRANK UP THE _ENOLA GAY_ You forgot the smiley, Roy. ;^) RJT> By L. Neil Smith RJT> this puts me in an awkward position. Everything I own that uses RJT> electricity is Japanese. So is my car, an '84 Subaru wagon. Look on the stickers for country of manufacture. Very little of my electric stuff is Japanese; in fact, I can't find one. Of course some have Japanese components. Computers typically have Japanese monitors (or Taiwan/Korea with Japanese picture tubes), and several chips. I have some American or European favorite names that I prefer, like Zenith, Magnavox/Philips, Hewlett/Packard, etc. Oops... not having a laser printer, I'm stuck with an Epson (assembled in China). Like you, I don't like much stuff from Japan as it has become overpriced; learned not to bow to the Sony gods when Beta died in VCR circles. RJT> My longing for a new Toyota Land Cruiser is a palpable presence in RJT> our home, like Harvey the Rabbit. He could get an old, pre-84 one with the Chevy Six! RJT> Why shouldn't we carpet-nuke their crappy little islands from one end RJT> to the other this time and obliterate a culture -- I refuse to say RJT> "civilization" -- as worthy of such treatment as the Aztecs were? Now, now; not nice. How 'bout just dumping the imports into a harbor and call it exportation without reciprocation. RJT> Well for one thing, because we're the good-guys. We just don't do RJT> that kind of thing. This guy's a real dreamer isn't he? RJT> automobiles. On one hand, we love the damned things, they're pretty, RJT> they _work_, and even with the most punitive tariffs our own corrupt RJT> and evil leaders can levy against them, they're still a bargain. A matter of opinion. They quit dumping to gain market share, for the most part, and few are what I'd call bargains. The trucks used to beat the automotive import tariffs, but now they seem to be priced higher than the much more work oriented Ford, Chevy, and Dodge pickups. As a matter of fact, some of the trucks are just rebadged Chevys (Isuzu) and Fords (Mazda). RJT> Now what do you suppose a year or two of depressed auto sales -- if we RJT> inavoidably linked it to Japan's asinine gun polices -- might have? RJT> I'm (reluctantly) willing to postpone purchase of my Land Cruiser, to RJT> consider buying a Suburban like G. Gordon Liddy and my mother, The $42,000 Land Cruiser is no bargain compared to the real-deal $36,000 Land Rover Discovery. The British built LR Discovery even gets better mileage! What really surprises me is SO DOES THE $26,000 SUBURBAN! RJT> =================================== RJT> Novelist and political essayist L. Neil Smith is the only Libertarian RJT> ever to be called a "thug" within the pages of the _LP News_. He's RJT> also been characterized by a disgruntled reader as having written the RJT> "single most repugnant ... piece of tripe ... ever seen in an American RJT> newspaper." Gee, I wonder why? 8-/ ... HONDA- How Our Nations Debt Accumulated --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00018 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 06:24pm \/To: DAVID LUDWIG (Read 0 times) Subj: california smog -=> Quoting david ludwig to <=- dl> my car ('84 300zx turbo) just failed california smog really badly dl> i got it a year ago, and it passed smog then (after replacing an o2 dl> sensor), its about a year, and less than 10,000 miles later, and it dl> failed so badly its now considered a 'gross poluter' You didn't say how many miles, but it is getting pretty old David, especially for a turbo car. They have to contend with a bit more cylinder pressure, and possibly get driven hard more often (thrill factor). If the O2 sensor shows contamination, it may already be burning oil, or leaking blow-by due to worn rings. Does it use any oil? Is the tailpipe dark or light?? Other than these basic ideas there could be many other faults. Start with the basics, and if it is good mechanically (good compression), then you can start to look for sensor failures, clogged injectors, etc. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00019 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 06:41pm \/To: GARY HALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Injectors -=> Quoting Gary Hall to Jay Emrie <=- JE> Gary, what causes the ignition timing to change in the first place???? GH> Three things: GH> It isn't uncommon to get seven to nine degrees retarded just from GH> gear and chain wear in as little as 60,000 miles. GH> The Imports mostly use tensioners on their chains to eliminate GH> this, but Detroit hasn't saw any need for it. Of course they do, on OHC engines that have long chains going clear to the top of the cylinder head and back. But most use rubber belts nowadays, with tensioners. The short OHV timing chains wouldn't really benefit from a tensioner and all the related parts. What you are describing is more like guide rails, with tensioners required to control off-axis slack. Now compare the price of replacing these parts on an import OHC vs. the typical OHV setup. Reduced parts count has some merits. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00020 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 07:09pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Daytona 24 entries USRRC Initial Entry List for Rolex 24 as World-Wide Media Focus Attention to Daytona ENGLEWOOD, Colo, (January 16, 1998) -- The United States Road Racing Championship has released its initial entry list for the 36th Rolex 24 At Daytona, set to take the green flag Saturday, January 31 at 1:00 p.m. at Daytona International Speedway. Seventy cars are officially entered in the event at this juncture, including 18 Can-Am cars, 15 GT1s, 11 GT2s and 25 GT3 racers. Only 80 cars will be permitted to start the race, and, by racetime, more than 80 entries are expected. Defending race champion Dyson Racing has entered two Ford Riley & Scott MK IIIs for drivers James Weaver, Elliott Forbes-Robinson, Rob Dyson, Perry McCarthy, Butch Leitzinger, John Paul Jr. and Dorsey Schroeder. The seven drivers account for eight class and overall Rolex 24 At Daytona wins. Doyle-Risi Racing has switched from its Olds Riley & Scott to Ferrari for 1996 winner Wayne Taylor, 1997 pole-winner Fermin Velez and Eric van de Poele. Gianpiero Moretti returns for his 15th Rolex, and still seeks his maiden victory. Driving with Moretti in the MOMO Ferrari 333SP are Mauro Baldi, defending Indy 500 Champion Arie Luyendyk and Didier Theys. Hurley Haywood and Derek Bell combine for eight Rolex 24 victories, but have never driven together. In Haywood's 25th race, the tandem is joined by David Murry and Jim Matthews in the Carolina Turkey Ford Riley & Scott MK III. Europe provides the entry with a host of exotic machinery and a who's who in racing in GT1, highlighted by two Reynard-built, Ford-powered Panoz GTR with Eric Bernard, Raul Boesel, David Brabham, Doc Bundy, Jamie Davies, Paul Newman, Scott Pruett and Andy Wallace sharing the driving duties. Two of the latest-generation Porsche 911 GT1 EVOs are entered, re-kindling the battle between 1997 GT1 winner Rohr Motorsport and Champion Motors. Uve Altzen, Allan McNish, Dirk Mueller, Joerg Mueller and Danny Sullivan will drive for Rohr, while Thierry Boutsen, Ralf Kelleners and Andy Pilgrim will pilot the Champion entry. The GT1 spoiler could be the Dayton Tire Ford Mustang Cobra of Tom Gloy Racing. Dayton Daytona Tires return to the Rolex 24 this season as part of a motorsports package which includes title sponsorship for the Indy Lights series. As expected, current and past Indy Lights competitors will drive, including Mike Borkowski, Robbie Buhl and Tony Kanaan. Despite suffering a blown motor, the Mustang managed the fourth-fastest time in GT1 at the test. Headlining GT2 are two Chamberlain Dodge Viper GTS-Rs from England. They will be seriously challenged by a host of Porsche 911 GT2s, led by Franz Konrad and Larry Schumacher's collaboration. Other GT2 Porsches include the AD Sport, C.J. Motorsports, Proton Competition and Prova Motorsports entries. Steve Saleen returns in one of his Mustangs, and is joined by Ron Johnson. The large GT3 entry includes three BMW M3s from the defending class champion Prototype Technology Group with drivers Bill Auberlen, Peter Cunningham, Derek Hill, Javier Quiros, Dieter Quester and Boris Said. Bell Motorsports has entered a customer BMW M3, with Scott Neuman and Terry Borcheller driving. Chasing the defending champions will be no less than 15 Porsche 911s. At the front of the Porsche contingent will be the Alex Job, Technodyne, AASCO, Racers Group and GL PK Racing entries. Other names of interest entered in the Rolex 24 include: 1993 GTP Lights winner Jim Downing; 1996 GT1 winners Jon Gooding and Irv Hoerr; 1976 and 1981 overall winner Brian Redman; two-time GT1 winner Lyn St. James; three-time class winner Yojiro Terada; and actor Jason Priestley. Practice and qualifying for the 36th Rolex 24 At Daytona commences Thursday, January 29th, with the green flag falling at 1:00 p.m. (EST), Saturday, January 31st. Live qualifying coverage can be seen on ESPN2 Thursday, January 29th at 3:00 p.m. (EST) and Friday, January 30th at 1:30 p.m. (EST) ESPN2 will provide nine and one-half hours of live race coverage beginning on Saturday, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. (EST) and resuming Sunday, from 7:00 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. (EST). Complete Rolex 24 At Daytona TV Coverage. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1S00021 Date: 01/21/98 From: ALAN MORRISON Time: 07:48pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Buying imports JAPANESE VEHICLE LOCATION OF FINAL ASSEMBLY Acura ALL Models: Japan Honda Prelude: Japan Odyssey: Japan Civic: Japan* CR-V SUV: Japan Passport: Japan* Infiniti ALL Models: Japan Isuzu Oasis: Japan Rodeo: Japan* Trooper: Japan Lexus ALL Models: Japan Mazda Protege: Japan Millenia: Japan Miata: Japan MPV Van: Japan Mitsubishi Mirage: Japan 3000 GT: Japan Diamante: Australia Montero: Japan Nissan 200 SX: Japan* 240 SX: Japan Maxima: Japan Pathfinder: Japan Subaru Impreza: Japan Legacy: Japan* Forrester Japan Suzuki Esteem: Japan X-90 SUV: Japan Toyota Supra: Japan Camry: Japan* Sienna Van: Japan Land Cruiser: Japan RAV4 SUV: Japan 4Runner: Japan T100 P/U: Japan * Some assembled in US Note ALL Acuras, Infinitis, and Lexus' are Made in Japan --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1T00000 Date: 01/23/98 From: JOHN FAERBER Time: 11:00pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Operating Temp What temp in Farenheit should my 87 Deville be runnig at? It is showing 100 celcius which I think translates to 210? farenhite. Is this within the accetpable range of operating temps? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: * MacSavvy OS/2 BBS * Dallas, Texas * 972-250-4479 * (1:124/1208) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1T00001 Date: 01/23/98 From: ED BROWN Time: 08:29pm \/To: STEWART AMGWERT (Read 0 times) Subj: Warning light -> Now I've got a 97 GMC Sonoma and the light just came on at 36,308 -> miles, and has been coming on and off for a few days. The service man -> said that anything from a loose gas cap to a sensor going bad could -> cause it. Looks like we can't really do much to these new rigs -> without the computer to work on them. -> If you figure out what lit your light drop me a line. Hi Stewart: I took my truck into the deler and in about 2 hours they found I have a bad ground on the oxygen sensor and now all ifxed and the light goes out...They said if it comes on again they will have to replace it.. So good luck with your... Ed --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 * Origin: Ed's BBS * Holiday,Florida * 1:3619/45 (1:3619/45) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: F1U00000 Date: 01/24/98 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 11:48am \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Injectors AM>-=> Quoting Gary Hall to Jay Emrie <=- AM> JE> Gary, what causes the ignition timing to change in the first ace???? AM> GH> Three things: AM> GH> It isn't uncommon to get seven to nine degrees retarded just from AM> GH> gear and chain wear in as little as 60,000 miles. AM> GH> The Imports mostly use tensioners on their chains to eliminate AM> GH> this, but Detroit hasn't saw any need for it. AM>Of course they do, on OHC engines that have long chains going clear to the AM>top of the cylinder head and back. But most use rubber belts nowadays, AM>with tensioners. The short OHV timing chains wouldn't really benefit from AM>a tensioner and all the related parts. What you are describing is more AM>like guide rails, with tensioners required to control off-axis slack. Please explain how tensioners can counteract timing change due to chain and gear wear. All tensioners can possibly do is to keep more or less proper tension on the chain so it doesn't slap or jump off the gears. AM>Now compare the price of replacing these parts on an import OHC vs. the AM>typical OHV setup. Reduced parts count has some merits. AM>--- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] AM> * Origin: River Canyon Rd. 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