--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00004 Date: 12/29/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 08:17am \/To: C.A. KLINGEL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting C.a. Klingel to David Wei <=- CK> I don't think you'll see the 5.4 in a mass produced 'stang. There CK> are too many packaging problems to make it fit. You may see it in a CK> limited edition run though ( ala R-Car ). Besides, the SN95 is CK> outselling the F-Body twins, so there isn't any incentive to do it. Well, I *heard* they are making a 350HP Cobra R, any info to confirm it? CK> The 5.0 fans won't quit bitching until they bring back the 351 from CK> the grave and go head to head with the General using good old CK> pushrods. People in Hell want ice water too, but they ain't getting CK> it either. Heh, nice example, but how do you know if hell is hot? It might be... errr... Cold as Hell... :) ... Line noise provided by the FBI's BBS monitoring service. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00005 Date: 12/30/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:03am \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: cool cop cars -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> Oh yeah, agreed... :) Man, they'd dig out the design blue prints for DW> the LT5 if Ford did what I said... :) DW> And put a reworked 427 SOHC into the Cobra R... that'd be excellent... KH> Did you see the Jan Motor Trend? Supercharged Mustang with 590 hp, KH> ran 12s because it weighted about 4,000 pounds. Still, the car was KH> nice. -!- Man, it was a Saleen Mustang, right? I'll check it out later... but I bet if you removed those body kits, You'd make 11s in the 1/4 mile... :) I'm all for beefy roll cage and stuff, and could not care less about how much the roll cage will weight, but I do care about all those "good lookin" stuff's weight... :) if it replaces the original part and weights less, well, it is a go, if it weights more, then no way... :) ... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00006 Date: 12/30/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:34am \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> Man, have you heard about MEND II? It stands for "Meet, Eat aNd Drag!" DW> Gonna be hosted by one of the Mustang guy in the Mustang news group, and DW> *any* car is welcomed... :) KH> Yeah, David Lyons is hosting it in Georgia, and he still hasn't KH> decided on a date yet. I'm post on both the Mustang NG and KH> alt.auto.camaro.firebird. I use my brother's account, 'Gary KH> Henderson.' I'm a pretty frequent poster on there. You should have seen me there as well... I'm that OS/2 + Mustang guy over there... :) my E-Mail address used for newsgroup posting is "nospam@canadawired.com", and believe me, it is a VALID E-Mail address, I choose this id to FOOL the @$!@#%!# spammers... :) Worked okay... But my main address is davidwei@cybermail.net if you are interested in E-Mailing... :) ... Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00007 Date: 12/30/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:37am \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> I personally don't think they'd be dying... as they have few competeion DW> from other makers... Honda isn't about to design a cheap V-8 and put it in DW> an affordable car... In fact, I don't think Honda is putting ANY V-8 in DW> their North American cars... And nor are any other car makers... DW> Which keeps them in good safety... As well as the "request" letters that DW> Mustang Fans had send them the last time they tried to kill it with a DW> FWD model... KH> Yeah, but Ford sold something like 400,000 sport utes, and only a tad KH> over 100,000 Mustangs. That tells you something:) GM sold even less KH> FBodies. In '96 they sold about 85,000 combined I think. And thats KH> base V6 Camaros, V6 Firebirds, Z28s, Formulas, and Trans AMs combined! Well, but IMHO F-Body is more or less a "showy" piece for GM, but Mustang is part of the Ford's healthy diet of $$$$$, so I guess so long as Mustang will earn bucks for them, they will kept on making them... :) BTW, saw the Lincoin (sp? :) ) Navigator, and man, does it look like it came from outer space or what... :) ... WORK HARDER!... Millions on welfare depend on YOU! ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00008 Date: 12/30/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:56am \/To: GARY SPRINZL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Gary Sprinzl to C.a. Klingel <=- CK> The 5.0 fans won't quit bitching until they bring back the 351 from the CK> grave and go head to head with the General using good old pushrods. GS> The 351 is a 5.8, Craig. :) GS> 5.0 is 302 cid. But both is in the same family, same aftermarket heads can be bolted on, and a LOT of stuff can be used with little or no change... 5.0 Fans will shut their mouth once they can get W351 from Ford... :) Already pre-installed in the Mustang that is... :) ... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"... ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00009 Date: 12/30/97 From: BILL REYNA Time: 09:53am \/To: JEREMY LOWREY (Read 0 times) Subj: Transmission? > I have that 1974 Nova (Oh stop yur groaning already ;) > )... right now it's got a small block 350 with a Th350 > transmission. The setup really stinks, I dislike > having to use 3.08 gears to get a double digit gas > mileage. I was wondering what all is involved in > swapping in something like the 700R4 to add overdrive, > so I can put some more...interesting...gears in the > rear end. Thanks... [----------^^^^ you said the above ^^^^-----------] You can swap to your hearts content and basically some items are strictly "bolt-on" with no hassles or very minor. The one thing you really got to undertsand is if the driveshaft needs to be redone when length and etc. come into play. The trans hump should allow the swap, but be prepared to cut and/or bang away for clearances. Make sure there are "any electronics" in the tranny to loop them or fool them as some newer trannys are "smart" however I don't know about the 700R4, but when I played in my day we didn't have such a problem. Anyways, you may save some gas, but i really think it won't be much, that 350 is a gas hog plain and simple. You can look into Olds and Buick models for rear-end parts swap as they used the sames types. -_-_-Bill --- * Origin: Bordertown - Telegram from the Border (1:234/43) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00010 Date: 12/29/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 09:32pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: 1994 Ply Battery Drain Well, My brother John's Father-in-law "Pappy" has had a recurrence of an old problem. They left the car sit for 4 days over Christmas while they made a trip to Dallas in John's motor home to visit John's grandkids. The morning after they got back the 1994 Plymouth 3.0 V6 Caravan's battery was DEAD. Now Pappy is getting very senile, not remembering, not remembering correctly, getting very confused, etc. He called John when the van wouldn't start the morning after they returned. John could find NOTHING left on. We have no way of knowing whether Pappy turned anything off in trying to start the van or not. He tends to start turning, moving switches when something like this befuddles him. Makes diagnosis difficult. Anyhow, John charged the battery (only 4 months old) up enough to start the Van, then they took a LONG drive to charge the battery up. It was up to 13.3 V when I went over yesterday (still needed a bit more charging). I measured the current drain and found 32.5 ma draw with everything off we could think of. Opened the driver's door and the drain went up to 75 ma. This vehicle has a switch that turns the dome light OFF so that it does not come on when the door is opened so the dome light wasn't the cause of the increased drain. The door switch is activating SOMETHING, but what we haven't figured out. Complicating things even more. With the door shut, every once in a while (3-5 minutes of so) the current would have a quick surge (I use a digital meter) to an indeterminate amount (but less than 200 ma - my meter limit or the fuse would blow). I suspicion that is the clock built into the radio, but do not understand why it could be. There is a fuse under the hood that the owner's manual says to pull for longer term vehicle non use. One would thing that this would isolate all current drain. With that fuse pulled the battery drain drops to less than 2 ma. Pulling ALL of the fuses AND relays in the engine compartment one at a time till ALL are out does not eliminate this 2 ma drain. Summary: 1. .075 A over say 100-112 hours (4+ days) is only 7.5 to 8.4 Amp hours, hardly enough to drain the battery as dead as it was. 2. Something is drawing 2 ma with ALL fuses and relays in the under hood fuse panel pulled (presumably this totally isolates the van interior and everything else for that matter). 3. Something is drawing 32.5 ma with apparantly nothing on. 4. When the driver's door is opened, something increases the drain to 75 ma. 5. Worse yet, something is SOMETIMES completely draining the battery in about 4 days. 6. Worst yet, as this has happened before (one reason for the recent battery replacement) it is a very intermittently recurring happening and very disturbing to an 84 year old man, and very puzzling to two other younger old men. Not having a wiring diargram we are somewhat asea. Tracing all the internal wiring is an impossibility. I've fussed at John repeatedly for not buying the Factory shop manuals, but he is too tight - says Pappy bought the extended warranty, and that should have taken care of it. Famous last words! Any CONCRETE suggestions would be appreciated. * OLX 2.1 TD * Why are there Interstate Highways in Hawaii??? * OLX 2.1 TD * Why are there Interstate Highways in Hawaii??? --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00011 Date: 12/30/97 From: C.A. KLINGEL Time: 08:53am \/To: GARY SPRINZL (Read 0 times) Subj: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Gary Sprinzl to C.A. Klingel <=- CK> The 5.0 fans won't quit bitching until they bring back the 351 from the CK> grave and go head to head with the General using good old pushrods. GS> The 351 is a 5.8, Craig. :) GS> 5.0 is 302 cid. I agree. Let me phrase this again: The 5.0 Fox fans won't quit bitching until Ford puts a 5.8 in the SN95 to compete with the General Motors F-Bodies on a level playing field. Regards, Craig Klingel ... "Hey, my butt is getting wet..."-- T-Top Owners Everywhere --- Brought To You By VaporWare 3.0 * Origin: Winner's Circle (1:2410/351) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00012 Date: 12/30/97 From: C.A. KLINGEL Time: 09:01am \/To: GARY SPRINZL (Read 0 times) Subj: Oil pump? -=> Quoting Gary Sprinzl to Sean Dunbar <=- GS> hah! I'm running Valvoline Racing straight-50 in my 350! Beat that! Why 50 weight? Regards, Craig Klingel ... USR V.Everything...Even God Runs One! Shouldn't You? --- Brought To You By VaporWare 3.0 * Origin: Winner's Circle (1:2410/351) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EG^00013 Date: 12/30/97 From: SUE MERRINER Time: 02:58pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger -> MSGID: 1:270/615.0 4a4655ee -> PID: timEd 1.01 -> SUE MERRINER wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON: -> -> SM> 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger with rebuilt 318 engine. Excellent -> -> SM> condition. no e-check necessary. leave e-mail for -> -> SM> sue.merriner@insanitybbs.com if interested. -> -> Heh. I had one of those, nice car... -> SM> If you're interested in owning another one, this one is for -> SM> sale. -> I wouldn't mind having another one, but am not really in the market for -> another vehicle at this point in time. Plus I don't have any place -> to put it, nor do I have the option of the time to mess with it, -> since I've got this truck I'm building... -> Besides, it's in Ohio and I'm not, and you don't mention a price. -> Two-door, I presume? -> email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com -> --- -> * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) Yes, 2 door and completely rebuilt. So you shouldn't have to do anything to it. Where are you? sue.merriner@insanitybbs.com --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: The Edge of Insanity Akron, Ohio 330-896-4251 (1:2215/180)