--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00005 Date: 12/27/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 06:49am \/To: MIKE S. WELCH (Read 0 times) Subj: Silicone -> As for ozone damage, European tire makers had to add silicone rubber -> to their tires starting in the 1950s to make them better withstand -> ozone created by the LA smog. I thought Neoprene Rubber was used. And I had both a 1948 and a 1966 Renault. Used all Natural Rubber, From the French Owned Michelan Plantations, for door seals etc. Crumbled and fell off within several years from the California SMOG. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00006 Date: 12/27/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 06:51am \/To: SEAN DUNBAR (Read 0 times) Subj: Heater core. -> Okay.. anyone care to tell me what I face in changing my heater core? -> -> thing finally started leaking into the cab and fogging the windows up -> completely (and giving a nasty coolant smell)... not to mention stain -> the -> carpet under the heater box. Going to change it soon. -> -> What do I face in doing this...? Anything from a "Piece of Cake" to seemingly impossible. If you are talking about your Truck it might be fairly east as there should lot of room to work under the dash. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00007 Date: 12/27/97 From: KENNY HENDERSON Time: 05:05am \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: BMW vs Corvette AM>You're fickle Kenny! :-) But that's OK, I know they all have their merits AM>and drawbacks. I'm too poor to afford any of them anyway! :) The Supra look has never grown on me, like some cars do AM>after you've seen them a while. The new Camaro nose was quite ugly to me AM>when I first saw it, but it looks a little better now that I've seen one AM>other than in a magazine. The same is true for the C5 tail, it is huge, AM>but I think they should put a small horizontal strip on each side to break AM>up the space. This would make it look much smaller, rather than actually AM>making it smaller and reducing trunk space and increasing drag. The new AM>Camaro nose is another matter; the headlights are OK but that huge snout AM>which is mostly blocked anyway, needs to be smaller IMO. The C5 does have a huge tail, but I like it. The Camaros do need some front end work, though they do look better in person then in the magazines. I saw a black Trans AM ('98) the other day, they look mean as hell! --- * OLX 2.1 TD * There is sex after death: you get laid in the coffin. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Fresh Start BBS * Edison NJ * (732) 248-1678 * (1:107/310.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00008 Date: 12/27/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:21pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Electrical loads, battery On, 24 Dec 97 at 18:43, Alan Morrison was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to Roy Witt about "Electrical loads, battery",: RW>> If you look at a schematic of an internally regulated alternator, RW>> you'll see a self-excitation circuit. AM> AM> I've seen one, as a matter of fact I dissected one to see what was in AM> there. It appears to circulate a minute amount of current all the AM> time, unless the varistor shuts it down at high temps. The varistor, (R2) in my book, regulates the amount of discharge in the battery when the alternator isn't on, (Terminal 1 switched off). AM> I suspected it might help protect a battery from freezing a few AM> extra degrees, but I have never had this explained to me. Look at AM> the circuit and tell me what you think... Wouldn't it allow a small AM> current flow even with the switch off? No, it needs the voltage required for the zenor to turn on... AM> Which part allows the alternator to excite it's own field when it AM> has zero voltage?? The voltage coming off the "diode trio". It's getting a small voltage from the rectifier bridge that is smoothing the AC coming from the Stator. * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) ... "Ralph Farrell is not someone to deal with." - Jeff Edmonson --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00009 Date: 12/27/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:21pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car On, 24 Dec 97 at 20:02, Alan Morrison was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to Roy Witt about "American Sports Car",: RW>> ZR1 0 to 60 times were 5.2 seconds. C5 0 to 60 is 4.96 seconds. RW>> The ZR1 never posted better times nor skidpad numbers than the C5. AM> AM> Hey Roy, as is often the case, different year models got some AM> different numbers. In '93 the 375 HP model also went to 405 HP AM> (advertised). Here is what MT got on four different ZR-1's. YEAR HP AM> @ RPM 0-60 1/4 @ MPH 60-0 SKIDPAD 1989 380 @ 6200 4.7 AM> 13.1 @ 110.0 125 .98 G 1990 375 @ 5800 4.4 12.8 @ 113.8 AM> 109 .90 --- A FAST one! --- ------------ 1993 405 @ 5800 AM> 5.2 13.6 @ 106.0 117 .92 1995 405 @ 5800 4.9 13.1 @ AM> 112.0 105 .99 (Notice the poor linear and high lateral AM> traction)^ 1997 345 @ 5600 4.7 13.3 @ 106.8 111 AM> .94 The C5 is quicker than some, but it's less expensive than all AM> ZR-1's... By 20 to 30 thousand dollars! Make mine a C5 please. :-) :) I'll have the same... AM> The ZR-1 still holds the 24 hour avg. top speed record of 175.88 AM> MPH. AM> (Interesting note - the 24 hours of Daytona is closer to 105 MPH AM> average.) AM> But I keep hearing about some exotic heads for future Vette's. If AM> they can do an OHC multi-valve setup for about halfway between the AM> ZR-1 and C5 price, while meeting Viper numbers it would sell... Ya' AM> think? They've done what I told you they would do. Remember when I mentioned that somebody was working on a revised SB2 head? The SB2.2 heads have the valves in the old familiar arrangement with shaft mounted rockers. Valve angles and size are a little different too. Maybe some of the technology that the NASCAR teams provide GM with these heads will help get some produced for the LS1 type engines...You can read all about the SB2.2 heads in the December 97 issue of "Chevy High Performance" magazine. You'll find it in the "Chevy Thunder" section. ... "You've been warned, and warned again." - Jeff Edmonson --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00010 Date: 12/27/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:22pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Radiator Leak On, 26 Dec 97 at 09:27, JAY EMRIE was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to ROY WITT about "Radiator Leak",: RW> RT>> With a line that is live :) JE> RW>> Or a quarter for the pay phone. JE> JE> Quarter, heck! It's 35 cents now!! Ahhh yes. Progress, ain't it grand? * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) ... This next quote is from a regional echo: "South_Texas" --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00011 Date: 12/27/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:22pm \/To: RONNIE THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Monte Carlo probs. On, 26 Dec 97 at 10:46, Ronnie Thompson was overheard shouting over the engine noise, saying something to Roy Witt about "Monte Carlo probs.",: RT>> Usually it's not what's IN the float bowl, it's what is stuck under RT>> the needle valve. RT> RW>> The difference between a vertical valve and a horizontal one. RT> RT> If trash gets trapped, it doesn't matter if the valve is horizontal RT> or vertical. That's true, but it's always nice to have an ace up your sleeve. In this case, gravity.... ... "You've been warned, and warned again." - Jeff Edmonson --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00012 Date: 12/27/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:22pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Monte Carlo..... To all of you who participated in the Monte Carlo Problems...Thanks. What I found was; After taking off the air cleaner, I checked the tension on the choke. It had plenty and closed all the way, which is what I figured it would do. I also checked the voltage to the choke housing and it was correct at 12+vdc... When I started the engine, I got around to the passenger side before it died, but I did see that the choke valve was still completely closed. This observation led me to suspect the "choke pull-off" as the culprit. Using a long vacuum hose, I sucked on the pull-off and nothing happened. I then removed it and took it over to Max's shop and borrowed his vacuum pump to check it with. When I got back to my place, I called up NAPA and ordered a new one... ... "I intentionally baited Roy Witt." - Elvis Hargrove --- * Origin: Savage Little Mail Machine, Azle, TX - (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00013 Date: 12/25/97 From: KEVIN RELKOFF Time: 11:08pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: '91 Mk VII KR> manual Is alot better.. Also I've seen Haynes Manuals that have been KR> wrong with certain things.. and how they are done.. Who would know KR> how a car is built better then the company that builds them? JE> Probably the guy that ends up making them work - ie fixing them! Heh And they usually end up doing it better then the factory =) --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Value Link BBS 930-0715 (1:153/959) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGX00014 Date: 12/25/97 From: KEVIN RELKOFF Time: 11:08pm \/To: TOM WALKER (Read 0 times) Subj: '91 Mk VII TW> For the last car that I acquired, A 1993 model, That is all I TW> purchased was the Electrical section. Well I got both, becuase HECK you need them.. =] PLus i was havinga headlamp problem, after awhile of being on.. the headlights would start to flash on and off.. all and all, it turned out to be the headlight switch, which was a normal problem for my car <'91 Cougar/T-birds>.. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Value Link BBS 930-0715 (1:153/959)