--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00038 Date: 12/23/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 07:47pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Engine Wanted 22 Dec 97 13:17, JAY EMRIE said this about Engine Wanted to ROY WITT. RW>> And in California, the DMV made it retroactive to everything made RW>> since 1966 y 1970 Firebird had a vacuum advance kit installed that RW>> wouldn't allow it to ance and the timing reset to 0. JE> JE> The vacuum advance was ONLY ignition timing, the cam grind or rather JE> gear placement on the cam shaft was mechanical timing and could NOT JE> be corrected by ignition timing. Both are ignition timing changes. Stopping vacuum advance and resetting the ignition timing to 0 crankshaft...that is, if we're talking about the Firebird. ... I'm Not A COMPLETE Idiot,...Several Parts Are Missing!!! --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00039 Date: 12/23/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 07:49pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Electrical loads, battery 22 Dec 97 13:28, JAY EMRIE said this about Electrical loads, battery to ROY WITT. RW>> If you look at a schematic of an internally regulated alternator, RW>> you'll see elf-excitation circuit. JE> JE> Roy, I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. APPLES: JE> One statement was that a car would DIE if the battery was JE> disconnected while the engine was running. Not true, and the self JE> exicitation circuit you arte talking about IS there simply because JE> the alternator was providing 12V WHEN the battery was disconnected - JE> thus the self exicitation. ORANGES: The other scenario is when the JE> battery is disconnected and then one tried to pushstart the car. In JE> that case, there would be no self excitation PERIOD - internal OR JE> external regulator. Where would it come from? I've been in this discussion before in the OLDENGINE echo. I lost, defending the position your taking now. Those old guys over there will ream your butt with the knowledge they have. Been there, done that. I don't know how Ford alternators work, but GM alternators use the #2 terminal connected to the positive battery terminal to excite the regulator into conducting a current on startup. The #1 terminal is also connected to the positive battery terminal through a switch and an "idiot light" with a resistor in parallel. As the alternator produces voltage, it appears at the #1 and BAT terminals and the "idiot light" goes out, thus self exciting itself by providing the voltage required of the zenor in the regulator to turn it on or off. Remove the battery and it will continue to self excite itself. This is where the APPLES and ORANGES come in, if you turn it off and then spin it up again; some alternators will self excite, some won't... ... A wok is what you throw at a wabbit. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00040 Date: 12/23/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 07:51pm \/To: TOM WALKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Silicone 23 Dec 97 06:59, TOM WALKER said this about Silicone to ROY WITT. ->> Either that or you positively don't know what you're talking about... TW> TW> I VOTE fro the Latter as I also have seen Sicilone Sealant crumble TW> into dust from the effects of SMOG, Ozone and Ultraviolet radiation TW> from Sunlight. As has Anybody that made the Mistake of trying to seal TW> a Flashing Leak on their House roof with it! Now there Are some TW> sealants that will do the job but it is NOT the Garden Variety TW> Sicilone Sealant that is so popular. I think we're talking two different silicone's, Tom. What you're thinking of is the RTV type of silicone...a thick liquid that turns to rubber.... ... There's no elevator to success. You have to take the stairs. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00041 Date: 12/22/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 10:42pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> JW> David Wei told the story like this: DW> DW> Nah... LT1 makes about the same power as the Cobra... And I'd prefer DW> JW> Huh? DW> 305HP vs the Camaro SS (LT-1)'s 305HP... KH> The regular LT1s (285 hp 325 lb/ft of torque) run with the 4.6 Cobras KH> as well. At the strip the base LT1s, ram air LT1s, and Cobras are all KH> to close to call. I've seen one Cobra go 13.6 stock, while other guys KH> could launch the thing and were stuck going low 14s all day. Agreed... I wonder what will happen if Ford upped the displacement to 5.4L , My guess is that the 5.0 fanatics will stop bitching about it a little... ... Once a communist, always a sytem admin. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00042 Date: 12/22/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:53pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: cool cop cars -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> KH> I know with heads etc (no NOS and no supercharging) a SOHC 2V 4.6 DW> KH> Stang can go 12s. That means atleast 325 horsepower. If Ford built DW> KH> some of them, I'm sure they would sell well. DW> And kill the Cobra sale? no way... :) I'd like to see 5.4L 5 valve DW> Cobra R... I bet it'd be sold out in the first week they announced it is DW> for sale... :) KH> The whole Ford lineup should be upgraded. I work with a guy who also Yup... 350HP Cobra, 300HP GT, and 200HP V-6... Man, would the Jap sports car maker be scared or what... KH> works for Ford. He said nothing about the 5.4l V8 has been decided KH> yet. -!- Well, it is 1/2 good and 1/2 bad, at least it has not been ruled out... ... Religious error: (A)tone (R)epent (B)lame Other Religion. ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00043 Date: 12/22/97 From: DAVID WEI Time: 09:51pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: FORD 302 VS SBC 305 -=> Quoting Kenny Henderson to David Wei <=- DW> KH> The guy who did it had real low miles on the car (like 1,500 or so). DW> KH> He claims his car runs strong becuase he broke it in hard. I think he DW> KH> just got lucky and is a helluva driver:) DW> I agree... cuz Cobra is heavier than the regular GT, thus require more DW> HP to get there... I guess it'll take me quite a while before I get to DW> that level of skill... :) KH> MM&FF's Cobra is real heavy, something like 3650 I think. That thing KH> needs to lose about 300 pounds. Getting rid of the rear seat, get those high performance run flat tires, throw the spare tire in the garage, get a new set of front crossmember alone with SLA suspension, and good aftermarket seats... that should lower the weight by about 100 to 200LB... :) DW> That's one reason I like Mustangs... :) KH> One reason why I have an FBody:) Any mods? :) but isn't it hard to mod the engine like swapping the heads, sparkplugs, intake and exhaust mainafolds, and stuff like that??? KH> What is done to Project Stocker? I don't even vividly remember what KH> it looks like, just that is was an LX and pretty beat up looking, KH> though fast. I can't remember exactly as well, as I have not read the whole thing... :) but they had a few interesting mods of some other cars... :) Paxton Novi 2000 installation and test... scared the helluva outta them by cranking the boost higher than their nerve can stand. :) STROKERS!!! All kinds of stroke kits... :) ... I blow my nose at you! ___ Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 --- Telegard/QWK v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Vancouver, B.C. Canada (1:153/757) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00044 Date: 12/18/97 From: DEVIN DIMITRI Time: 02:39pm \/To: JASON WEDEHASE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: American Sports Car RW> Nowhere near anything "seriously embarrassing" in my book and at that RW> price, it should be nearly twice as good... JW> I agree. Basically. The Viper is all torque, though. The HP/CID JW> ratio isn't really that good, either. Torque is the best part, though! :) Really, though, if you'd like to see a great Viper, check out just about any Hennissy job. Even the base models, 550hp are awesome. He does most of his stuff with freer breathing. Well, that 602hp one is a little different... :) -Lates --- Telegard v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rapid Eye - FinalNET HQ (USA) - Olathe, KS (1:280/183) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00045 Date: 12/18/97 From: DEVIN DIMITRI Time: 02:57pm \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: cool cop cars AM> I'll have to go look again, As I can't remember the exact details. AM> If you have a 'Books-A-Million', look there for a black and white AM> book with a black and white Cop car on the cover. The title either AM> had the words 'Cop Cars' or 'Police Cars' in the title, and was AM> fairly large, at least 8 1/2 x 11. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.20 [NR] * AM> Origin: River Canyon Rd. BBS Chattanooga, Tn (1:362/627) Thanks, i'll go look, but we've only got Waldens and Barnes and Noble's around here. Thanks again. -Lates --- Telegard v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: The Rapid Eye - FinalNET HQ (USA) - Olathe, KS (1:280/183) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00046 Date: 12/22/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 06:24pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: '91 Mk VII -=> Quoting JAY EMRIE to RONNIE THOMPSON <=- RT> JE> Nope, I am not and never was ASE certified in anything. However, I o RT> JE> honestly believe I could easily have made the grade. RT>May have been able to do so. The tests are pretty tough and get into a lot RT>of stuff that is NOT in Haynes, OR in a factory manual. They will tell you RT>how to fix something, they usually won't tell you why something does somethi RT>or what causes a problem, etc. That is a lot of what the ASE tests have, in RT>the way of questions. JE> Well, I didn't go into things just to fix them, I wanted to know HOW JE> they worked and WHY and wasn't satisfied till I learned how and why as JE> well as the actual fix. You'd have to see an actual test, to understand what I mean. Tolerances, specs, clearances...all part of an ASE test. Stuff the average "back yard mechanic" won't be learning. RT> JE> Even though I, like you, either can't physically or do NOT desire to RT> JE> do so much any longer, I still want to know and understand as much as I RT> JE> possibly can about my vehicles. Sure keeps the shops from "pulling the RT> JE> wool over my eyes". RT>AMEN, on the wool part. If I ever sell my insurance agency (and have just RT>added another 500 clients), I will probably open up another shop, a top rate JE> From where I sit you'd be nuts. Why?? Back when I was doing mechanic work, I was doing it for $8.00 an our. This was in the early 70's mind you. Today, mechanics are charging $45-60 an hour. GOOD mechanics can, and do, make upwards of $100K a year, with heir own shop. That PLUS hire additional mechanics, to bring in more work. It's sorta like the insurance agency....more GOOD agents I work, the more they, nd I, make. :) Ronnie in NC ... vDDDDMMMMMM~pd] Happy Holidays To All ]dp~MMMMMMDDDDv --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGU00047 Date: 12/22/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 06:29pm \/To: KEITH SCUDDER (Read 0 times) Subj: chevy impala -=> Quoting KEITH SCUDDER to GARY HALL <=- KS> Don't forget the V-8 of Caddy in the 80's which was a 8-6-4 spark KS> fire deal? That might of been good on paper, but I don't of one KS> person who had that engine that worked decently. :) I ran into a few of the, but mainly people who did a lot of Interstate driving. That was about the only time the 8-6-4 was really ABLE to work correctly. KS> You mentioned the Cimmaron, that was some rip-off of $12,000 for KS> a re-skinned GM subcompact. The Catera reminds me of another of those "Caddie" experiments(G). There are always those out there, who will buy the thing, just to be able to say they have a Caddie. Ronnie in NC ... It's a dog with three broke legs. It oughta be shot! --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37)