--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00000 Date: 12/22/97 From: CHRIS ZYCHSKI Time: 03:34am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: CARS 4 SALE 1987 Dodge Diplomat 4-door, 318cid V8 Engine needs repair, Car is towable ...... $850.00 obo 1978 Lincoln Town Car, 460cid V8 *Runs* Parts car. Front doors, hood removed ..... $650.00 obo 1971 Chevrolet Nova SS, SBC stroker *fast* Shifter, Comp Trans, minor body damage ...$3900.00 firm Vehicles are located 12 miles N of Lapeer, MI off M24. Will tow vehicles up to 1000 miles for reasonable fee. Call Chris at 810-792-7742 (ans mach) or 810-792-4911. -cc * SLMR 2.1a * Where is the tagline supposed to go??? --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Bearsville BBS * Warren, MI * (810) 582-9429 (1:120/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00001 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:04pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car 19 Dec 97 02:58, Kenny Henderson said this about American Sports Car to Roy Witt. KH> RW> TW>>> Not arguing that. Only that the Vette is NO LONGER the "King of RW> TW>>> the Hill" RW> KH>> RW> KH>> Actually it was the ZR1 Corvette that was dubbed 'King of the RW> KH>> Hill' KH> RW>> Not anymore! The C5's faster... KH> KH> Thats very debatable. It all depends on what numbers you believe. KH> The C5 is a much better all around car though, which more then makes KH> up for any shortcoming it has in power. ZR1 0 to 60 times were 5.2 seconds. C5 0 to 60 is 4.96 seconds. The ZR1 never posted better times nor skidpad numbers than the C5. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00002 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:08pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car 19 Dec 97 02:59, Kenny Henderson said this about American Sports Car to Roy Witt. RW>> That has to have been Chryslers motto. They've all been double ugly RW>> since I can remember seeing my first mopar product.. KH> KH> I think some of their newer stuff is nice looking, like the Avenger. KH> They just ruin it by putting weak engines in everything. But sitting and riding in one is the real test. I've never been impressed with Mopar ride or comfort and the Avenger is no exception. ... Ford Racecar: Lots of parts flying in close formation. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00003 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:12pm \/To: KENNY HENDERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car 19 Dec 97 03:14, Kenny Henderson said this about American Sports Car to Jason Wedehase. JW> RW>> If I tied you up and placed you at the 122 foot mark, would you JW> RW>> want the Corvette or the Viper to test it's brakes in front of JW> RW>> you? KH> JW>> Well, I guess that's one way to look at it. I'm curious... JW>> why does the Vette stop faster when the Viper hsa so much bigger a JW>> contact patch for braking? KH> KH> KH> Vipers don't have ABS. The Vette is also atleast 200 lbs lighter. I KH> nominate Jaspers to stand 122 feet in front of the Viper, and you can KH> stand 122 feet in front of the C5:) Yeah, but who gets to drive the C5?..:) --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00004 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:15pm \/To: MICHAEL GRAHAM (Read 0 times) Subj: Scientific water 20 Dec 97 15:22, Michael Graham said this about Scientific water to Roy Witt. MG> RW>> Using a product such as Prestone Scientifically Purified Water RW>> with a premium quality antifreeze like Prestone antifreeze/ RW>> coolant will ensure that you're providing the best possible RW>> protection MG> MG> I treat water scientifically myself, through hundreds of miles of MG> kidney tubes. ;-) Well buddy, you're missing out on the good life. Try mixing it with some 80 or 90 proof alchohol... --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00005 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:18pm \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car 20 Dec 97 13:50, Mark Logsdon said this about American Sports Car to Roy tt. RW> JW>> Well, I guess that's one way to look at it. I'm RW> JW>> curious... why does the Vette stop faster when the Viper hsa RW> JW>> so much bigger a contact patch for braking? RW>> RW>> Ask Mopar! I think you'll find that the total braking area to RW>> weight ratio comes into play. The C5 has what Bosch calls 4-channel RW>> ABS V controls, which Dodge claims the Viper doesn't need, since RW>> it's a no-frills sports car...their words, not mine. RW>> ML> ML> What do you guys mean by "contact area" and "total braking area?" ML> If you mean the size of the brake pads to rotor, then I can see ML> that. That's part of it. I don't know for sure, but I think the Viper has larger rotors and bigger pads. ML> If you mean tire size to road, then I have a tougher time ML> with it. If that's the case, the difference is minimal. The Viper has 275/40x17 tires all around, and the C5 has 245/40x17's up front and 275/40x17's out back. ML> I'd say better braking is often the ability to dissipate the heat ML> generated due to friction. Maybe Viper has better heat transfer. Years ago, when America first started to use "disc" brakes, the statement most often heard was; "The more they're used the better they get." and "Disapates heat faster than drum brakes." So, I guess you'd have a good point. But; The difference here is the use of ABS vs no-ABS... Put ABS on the Viper and it should stop in less distance than the C5. ... Ford Racecar: Lots of parts flying in close formation. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00006 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:26pm \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: battery sizes 20 Dec 97 13:50, Mark Logsdon said this about battery sizes to Roy Witt. ML> RW>> Pipe diameters are all screwed up, as there is no way to measure one RW>> and say "that is 1/4" pipe.", without consulting a chart or have RW>> first hand experience with handling pipe. For the uninitiated, RW>> looking in that specifications chart and/or actually measuring RW>> what you have is about the only way. RW>> ML> ML> I'd forgotten how wide of a spread there was on inside diameter ML> until I got out one of my reference manuals and looked it up. I ML> would certainly need a chart. :) I still do after working in the industry for the last 35 years. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00007 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:28pm \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Silicone 20 Dec 97 13:50, Mark Logsdon said this about Silicone to Roy Witt. ML> RW>> Bullshit!!! I used that shit on my 86 Olds to try and protect an RW>> anten mount from leaking water into the hole for the coax on the RW>> roof. I pack full of silicone grease... 4 months later, it was RW>> gone, kaput, not anymore...got it? ML> ML> Have you ever tried white lithium grease? No, I went from nothing to silicone grease and back to nothing. That works just fine.. ... Ford manual starter, 100 lb drop hammer... --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00008 Date: 12/21/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 02:29pm \/To: DAVID WEI (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes 18 Dec 97 14:52, David Wei said this about Re: Battery sizes to Jay Emrie. DW> -=>> Quoting Jay Emrie to David Wei <=- DW> JE>> Please explain why people with SILVER utensils (knoves, forks, JE>> spoons, teapots, etc.) have to keep polishing them to get rid of JE>> the tarnish and keep them looking pretty. DW> DW> Is it tarnish or is it corrosion? Have the metal been lefted alone DW> or is it in contact with another metal? I'll have to check my RedOx DW> chart to be 100% sure on this one... :) Check your dictionary. No need to go any further than "tarnish" and "oxidation".... --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGS00009 Date: 12/23/97 From: PETER HARLE Time: 03:49am \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes -=> Quoting Mark Logsdon to Peter Harle <=- PH> Disconnecting the battery while the engine is running generally won't PH> cause the engine to stop. Although it's not recommended, basically PH> because the alternator regulator attempts to maintain an output PH> voltage with rapidly changing load current components. The battery PH> also acts as a filter (shunt regulator), without it, system voltage PH> may fluctuate, possibly damaging unprotected electronics. ML> I bet one would have a voltage transient (though not too large) when ML> disconnecting the battery. Hopefully it wouldn't damage anything. Totally agree, and as such would not do it deliberately, particulalry with EFI etc. for the reasons quoted above. Cheers Peter H. --- EzyBlueWave V1.20 01fb000b * Origin: Mt.Druitt TAFE +61-2-9839-1310 FidoNet (3:713/709)