--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00046 Date: 12/18/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:33pm \/To: CURIOUS GEORGE MEHNER (Read 0 times) Subj: Radiator Leak 17 Dec 97 14:28, Curious George Mehner said this about Radiator Leak to Roy Witt. CGM> That would be a serious problem for those ethylene glycol antifreeze CGM> products designed to work properly for five years or 100,000 miles. CGM> Texaco says its Havoline 5Y/100,000Mi Extended Life (GM factory CGM> fill) has a shelf life of at least five years, and Prestone claims a CGM> ten- year shelf life for its 5Y/100,000Mi product. This can be CGM> verified by calling Prestone at 1-800-862-7737 or Texaco at CGM> 1-800-STAR-TLC. I prefer my information from their Inet site... CGM> The ethylene glycol doesn't deteriorate easily or quickly, but the CGM> silicone silicate additive found in most antifreezes will break CGM> down into a gel in just eighteen months of storage, according to CGM> Texaco. And Prestone. They also recommend their "extended life" antifreeze over their normal antifreeze. CGM> The 5Y/100,000Mi coolants are silicate free, as is Toyota CGM> antifreeze. Zerex 5Y/50,000Mi coolant does contain silicate, but CGM> there's no reason to buy it when Texaco Extended Life is about the CGM> same price. Silicate and nitrite/nitrate free as well... Prestone recommends shaking shelved bottles every so often to keep the silicates suspended... ... I Don't believe in astrology. We Leos aren't taken in by such things. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00047 Date: 12/18/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:37pm \/To: JASON WEDEHASE (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car 17 Dec 97 09:41, Jason Wedehase said this about American Sports Car to Roy Witt. RW>> If I tied you up and placed you at the 122 foot mark, would you RW>> want the Corvette or the Viper to test it's brakes in front of you? JW> JW> Well, I guess that's one way to look at it. I'm curious... JW> why does the Vette stop faster when the Viper hsa so much bigger a JW> contact patch for braking? Ask Mopar! I think you'll find that the total braking area to weight ratio comes into play. The C5 has what Bosch calls 4-channel ABS V controls, which Dodge claims the Viper doesn't need, since it's a no-frills sports car...their words, not mine. ... Cat: Murphy's way of saying "Nice Furniture!" --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00048 Date: 12/18/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:46pm \/To: DEVIN DIMITRI (Read 0 times) Subj: Bugatti 15 Dec 97 14:51, Devin Dimitri said this about Re: Bugatti to Roy Witt. RW>> Just got my AUTOWEEK Buyer's Guide, and I'm even more impressed RW>> with the C5 road test data they presented... DD> DD> It's a very impressive car. It looks just a tad bit strange DD> from a few angles <3/4 from the rear> but the performance is DD> top notch. And you can't see that 3/4 angle view when you're driving it...:) RW>> According to a survey they took back in June, the C5 gathered 43% RW>> more nominations than the Viper for America-made favorite sports RW>> car. DD> DD> Because of the Vette's history. Also, the car IS more refined DD> than the Viper. Viper is better from a pure performance DD> standpoint though. Not by much... RW>> speed of 43.9mph, pulling .872g on the 200ft skidpad. DD> DD> ^^^ DD> I thought it was supposed to pull like .94 or something. maybe they had a wuss driving it.. RW>> in 117 feet. Better than Viper (126ft) and very close to the RW>> Porsche DD> DD> ^^^ DD> Did they put ABS on that car?? I thought DD> that it stopped in like 130-140 ft. If it's that low without DD> ABS, think of what it'd do with ABS, 105-115, maybe? Nope, Dodge says the Viper doesn't need ABS... RW>> I'll leave those exotica cars for the deep pocketed individuals who RW>> like to impress everybody with themselves... DD> DD> The pure exotics are toys. VERY fun and VERY expensive toys, DD> but toys still the same. But i must qualify this statement, DD> the Ferrari Manerllo is definately a toy <199 mph>, but DD> it's very refined, and you would be able to drive it every day DD> like you can a C5 or 300ZX, and can't a Viper. Marinello! My wife's grandfathers first name. Marinello Fracarolli... I see a guy drive his bright yellow Viper RT/10 to work everyday. Course, when it's raining, he drives his white 97 Cadillac El Dorado 32valve Northstar. ... Please, B'rer Fox don't throw me in dat dere briar patch! --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00049 Date: 12/19/97 From: JACK NELSON Time: 04:57am \/To: ALAN MORRISON (Read 0 times) Subj: Best conductor -=> Quoting David Wei to Tom Walker <=- DW> IMHO, I prefer silver over gold... anyone? :) AM> I once found a set of silver "pick-up shoes" for an Aurora slot AM> car when I was a kid. These are what rubs the track and deliver AM> current to the motor. With these bad boys installed I had the AM> fastest car on the track! Since they rub on the track corrosion AM> was not a problem. Where it is a problem gold would be the AM> answer. Did you wind your motor with silver wire and have it dynamically balanced (with the pinion installed) by Thrush? I had to quit slot cars because I developed a serious addiction to the wintergreen oil used on the tires. :-) --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00050 Date: 12/19/97 From: JACK NELSON Time: 04:57am \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Electrical connections JN> Even better would be to coat them with grease or an electronics JN> contact cleaner/protectant because their surface won't break and JN> let in air, and they can be applied to the battery posts and JN> terminals before assembly. RW> That's an awful messy way to protect stereo wires...but if RW> they're out of sight and touch, I guess it would be better. JN> If you have computer SIMMs with gold edge connectors and SIMM JN> sockets with tin connectors, this can prevent the tin from JN> corroding. RW> I do this on antenna connections by using a conductive grease. JE> I'm curious, just what grease is conductive? I measured some anti-seize compound, which contains copper and aluminum powder, but it measured infinite resistance. Maybe graphite grease will conduct enough, but for the vast majority of electrical applications, use only nonconductive lubricants because you only want to prevent corrosion, and, as I said, the contacts have no problem of piercing through the insulating film of oil or grease, as you can check by taking apart a heavy-duty switch. Conductive grease will short out contacts that don't even normally touch. --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00051 Date: 12/19/97 From: JACK NELSON Time: 04:58am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Electrical contacts JN> Even better would be to coat them with grease or an electronics JN> contact cleaner/protectant because their surface won't break and JN> let in air, and they can be applied to the battery posts and JN> terminals before assembly. RW> That's an awful messy way to protect stereo wires...but if RW> they're out of site and touch, I guess it would be better. There are spray electronics contact cleaner/protectants that leave hardly any film but provide practically as much protection. Monsanto makes one of the best, but I don't know the brand name. --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00052 Date: 12/19/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 05:22am \/To: KEVIN RELKOFF (Read 0 times) Subj: '91 Mk VII -> JE> Ronnie, from my past experience with any after market manual (Hay -> JE> included) it is far better to write for a FACTORY manual. Much mu -> JE> better. -> -> i agree totally.. i never even thought of getting a haynes, ect manua -> just called up ford < i own a '91 cougar> and ordered the manuals -> may be more expensive <$60 for the mechcanical manual -> and the elertical> but hey they go into way more detail on -> everything.. And I fully concur. I have never really found a After Market Manual that was worth very much for a REAL Car Mechanic. The factory manuals are getting expensive though. But for particularly the Electrical stuff NOTHING can replace them. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00053 Date: 12/19/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 05:24am \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes -> While tripping merrily through the mail, JAY EMRIE was overheard -> -> JE> Please explain why people with SILVER utensils (knoves, forks, -> spoons, -> JE> teapots, etc.) have to keep polishing them to get rid of the -> tarnish -> JE> and keep them looking pretty. -> -> But is tarnish the same as corrosion (actual oxidation of the silver -> itself)? YES!!!!! --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00054 Date: 12/19/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 05:27am \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes -> TW> I think the DMV super snoops only look for Contractors, Busines -> TW> etc using their vehicles for commercial purposes with out commerc -> -> TW> plates. -> -> -> Tax collectors. Here in California the Department of Motor Vehicles IS part of the TAX COLLECTION system and has their Own Investigators and Prosecutors. They do though have to use the Court system fortunately. But VERY few beat them in Court. --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Jim's East County BBS! El Cajon, CA. (619) 561-8424 (1:202/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00055 Date: 12/19/97 From: TOM WALKER Time: 05:30am \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes