--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00006 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 04:45pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Monte Carlo probs. -=> Quoting Roy Witt to Ronnie Thompson <=- RT>> Most gas tanks do end up having a little trash in the bottoms RT>> of them, however as most people don't end up running their tanks RT>> completely dry, the trash never gets sucked up into the pickup RT>> tube. If they did, a lot would end up with trash in the line. RT> RW>> This is why they install fuel filters... RT> RT> Sooooo, your claim would be that the filters keep all trash out of RT> the carbs?? RW> No, just most of it... Doesn't take much to make a carb act up, especially Holleys. ........... RT> What's the prize?? RW> Two consecutive days and nites with Heather Locklears' dog... What a deal!!! (G) Ronnie in NC ... Pardon me, are you playing with a full deck? --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00007 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 04:46pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: RADIATOR LEAK -=> Quoting JAY EMRIE to RONNIE THOMPSON <=- RT> RT> JE> It is!!! Just how hot do you think an exhaust manifold gets? One he RT> RT> JE> of a lot hotter than 232 F! RT> RT>Doubt that the exhaust manifold gets much hotter than the engine would, RT> RT>start with. I don't remember the exact temp conversion of an engine wit RT> RT>a 14 lb radiator cap on it, but I think close to 250 degrees or so?? RT> JE> Ronnie, you are speaking of the coolant temperature - the exhaust RT> JE> temperature gets far far hotter than the coolant temperature. I have RT> JE> seen some exhaust manifolds GLOW red which positively means hotter RT> JE> that any 250 degrees of so. RT>ohhhh, I stand corrected. Should have read more of the paragraph(G). JE> Join the club. I'm President! And the next election is???? Ronnie in NC ... Eagles may fly but weasels aren't sucked into jets --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00008 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 04:46pm \/To: TOM WALKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Jumper Cables -=> Quoting TOM WALKER to RONNIE THOMPSON <=- -> BM> I've even seen 10 guage extension cord inside larger insulation. -> BM> Anyway, such cheap boosters would probably not be capable of carr -> BM> enough current when starting the dead vehicle, if anything the ca -> BM> themselves will fry. -> -> Speaking of.....I'm looking to buy a good set of jumper cables for an -> vehicle. The best deal I've found so far is a set of 16 ft. 4 guage -> cables, -> at Sams. Anyone out there seen any better deals?? BTW, they run -> $19.99. The ones in my other vehicles are all 18 ft, 6 gauge, which TW> The only recommendation would be to check and see if REAL copper is TW> used in the cables. Some jumper cables are using Aluminum wire. Yep, checked it out, they are true all American (far as I know) copper. The "far as I know" is for the "all American" not the copper (G). Ronnie in NC ... Had a cat once...tasted like chicken. --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00009 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 06:12pm \/To: KEVIN RELKOFF (Read 0 times) Subj: '91 Mk VII -=> Quoting Kevin Relkoff to JAY EMRIE <=- JE> Ronnie, from my past experience with any after market manual (Haynes JE> included) it is far better to write for a FACTORY manual. Much much JE> better. KR> i agree totally.. i never even thought of getting a haynes, ect KR> manual.. just called up ford < i own a '91 cougar> and ordered the KR> manuals may be more expensive <$60 for the mechcanical manual and the elertical> but hey they go into way more detail on everything.. I agree, Kevin, but how many people out there are gonna pull out their own FWD transaxle, tear it down in their backyard and rebuild it?? Not many I would guess. If it's too complicated for Haynes to put in their $11.00 books, most of us are not gonna be attempting it :) Just my opinion. I'm not saying the factory manuals don't have a place, and if you have just one vehicle, the $60.00 isn't too bad. I'm just saying that for the average joe, the Haynes will do just fine. Plus you can use the difference, to buy a few special tools, to work on the thing :) Ronnie in NC ... "A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work anytime." --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00010 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 06:16pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Antifreeze -=> Quoting JAY EMRIE to JAMES ARNOLD <=- ML>JA> ML> Hey, just fill your radiator with straight antifreeze and you ML>JA> > won't need to worry about distilled vs deionized...:) ML>JA> ML>JA> Unless you have a Ford. Ford may deny a warranty claim for engine ML>JA> damage if the antifreeze concentration exceeds 60%. Ford has built JE> I just finished going through my 1992 Ford Crown Vic. Owners Manual JE> and also the Warranty Information Booklet. NOWHERE does it say the JE> warranty will be voided if the antifreeze concentration exceeds 60%. It JE> just says maintain the coolant between 40% and 60%; below 40% may allow JE> freezing, and above 60% may cause engine to overheat on a warm day. JE> Further states, " Outside this range you may lose corrosion and rust JE> protection for the metals in your cooling system." Also states the JE> coolant provides lubricant for the water pump. Which I would think would blow anyones conception of running pure antifreeze. As we know, there are some, in the echo, would say they do (G). JE> I would think that IF you had a damaged engine due to overheating and JE> they found over 60% antifreeze you would surely be out of luck. JE> Of course, with the 2 yr 24000 mile warranty you aren't too likely to JE> have a problem INSIDE the warranty period - They say the original coo JE> lant is supposed to last 30000 miles or 3 years. What car company has a 2 yr., 24K warranty?????? I think the lowest today, is 3 yr/36K, whichever comes first. I'd also say that 30K or 3 yrs, would be about the max I'd want to run antifreeze, before replacing with fresh. Ronnie in NC ... This is a free country, so there will be no charge for my opinion. --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00011 Date: 12/18/97 From: RONNIE THOMPSON Time: 06:18pm \/To: PETER HARLE (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery Size -=> Quoting Peter Harle to JAY EMRIE <=- JE> I do not understand. Do you read all the messages on line then JE> download them as a QWK pack? I simply get on the BBS, download a QWK JE> package for a predetermined group of conferences and get off the BBS. JE> Usually less than 1-2 minutes. Then I read them all off line. PH> When I logon to the BBS, it informs me of any messages addressed to PH> me and if I want to read them, I usually do, then download the QWK PH> package, same as you. That's how I knew I had a message from you. But PH> somehow the mailer managed to screw up sending me "that" message. I Why not just hit NO, on personal messages and just download them with the QWK packet?? Read them and if you decide to reply to any, do so and upload the packet when you call the BBS. It takes me approx 2 mins to download a 200-300K packet, and about 10 seconds to upload a 20K packet, when I'm done replying. Ronnie in NC ... "I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for 400, Alex." --- AreaFix Fido MILITIA * Origin: Thor's Retreat/2 BBS Fayetteville, NC 910.424.0956 (1:3634/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00012 Date: 12/18/97 From: CURIOUS GEORGE MEHNER Time: 11:53pm \/To: RONNIE THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery Terminals CGM> Why do cars now have battery terminals made of steel instead of CGM> lead, as in the old days (I'm referring to top terminals, not CGM> side)? RT> I've seen the cable ends with steel, mostly on smaller vehicles RT> of foreign manufacturers (used to be foreign anyhow), yet I've RT> never seen a battery with steel, such as George (Curious George) RT> asked about. I was actually asking about steel *cable* terminals. I just worded it badly. :( --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00013 Date: 12/18/97 From: CURIOUS GEORGE MEHNER Time: 11:53pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Silicone -=> Jay Emrie wrote to Roy Witt <=- JE> Also, a mixture of silicone and a carrier (alcohol for one) put JE> in an atomizer and well mixed and sprayed into volume controls JE> (when possible) quite often prevents them from becoming scratchy. Isn't it cheaper to just buy a spray can of silicone lube? --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00014 Date: 12/17/97 From: MARC GERGES Time: 12:12pm \/To: MARK LOGSDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes Salut Mark! ML>>> connected, and try to start car B. The idea is to use ONLY car ML>>> A's battery and car B's battery and NOT to use car A's alternator. MG>> Why should car A's alternator be used to start B in the other case? MG>> There's a regulator between it and the battery that cares. ML> That's exactly why it matters. Here's how it works. ML> The alternator in car A is regulated to maintain about 14.4 volts DC ML> across its battery terminals. (No arguments, please, if your ML> alternator is at something different than 14.4 VDC, but this is ML> fairly typical for newer cars.) If the voltage falls, then the ML> alternator increases its current. In other words, it is a VOLTAGE ML> regulator. It supplies sufficient current in order to maintain a ML> specified voltage (14.4 VDC). Fine. ML> When you connect car A's battery to car B's (dead) battery, car B's ML> battery draws a very large current. (For now let's assume that ML> alternator A and its voltage regulator will not react.) Wrong assumption - as soon as the cables are set, car A's idle speed shortly drops (and then is regulated by the injection pump). This shows there is already a considerable amount of load on the alternator. ML> This large current will be supplied by car A's battery, which will ML> cause A's battery to drop in voltage. If you now try to engage B's ML> starter, you will draw even more current from A's battery, further ML> reducing the voltage across A's battery. OK. ML> What does A's voltage regulator do? It senses an very low voltage, ML> much lower than its setpoint of 14.4 VDC, and it increases the field ML> excitation in A's alternator. By this time, A's alternator could be ML> delivering its maximum available current. Possible. Depends on the alternator. ML> Let's say it's 75%, just for purposes of explanation, and that would ML> be 75 A from the alternator with the remaining 25 A being delivered ML> from the stored energy within the battery. That would look something ML> like this: ML> 75 A 100 A ML> Alternator ---------> Battery ---------> Loads ML> Does this make it clearer now? This sounds reasonable, but I tend to believe that the numbers you stated are inaccurate. The battery will be strong enough to not let the voltage drop enough so much the alternator is in danger. cu .\\arc ...I was in a speed reading accident. I hit a bookmark. --- * Origin: sympathy for the debil (2:270/47) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGP00015 Date: 12/18/97 From: BILL MITCHELL Time: 02:31pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: GAS PRICES BM>> The law requires that anyone who operates a flammable fuel BM>> dispensing device be trained in it's operation during the BM>> first 24 hours of employment and also provides that only BM>> employees may operate such equipment. RW> As an ex-fuel dispensor (gas station attendant), am I as a RW> TRAINED individual, allowed to pump my own gas? We used to call them petroleum dispensing engineers. :) Technically no, since as noted you are required to also be an employee. --- * Origin: The Right Place, Fort Lee, NJ USA(201)947-8231 (1:2604/539.11)