--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00058 Date: 12/17/97 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 08:56pm \/To: MARC GERGES (Read 0 times) Subj: Vector Auto MG> But on the other hand, you should consider that in the MG> 120mph+ area, it accelerates better than a Formula 1 car. MG> :-) That is important to us interstate commuters. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Running from the Klan in the Fiero (1:123/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00059 Date: 12/17/97 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 08:58pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Hotrod RT> JP> Could be one and the same. He had a business in Texas RT> JP> working on them things. RT> Sounds like him. Nice guy... Damned skippy, could have been him. Remember Later Gator ???????? RT> I have these echos (among *many* others) flowing here, for RT> anyone who's intersted: Kewl. RT> Automotive Me too. RT> Autorace Me too. RT> British Cars Me too. RT> Hot Rod Me Too. RT> Old Cars Me Too. What, no NASCAR ?? :) I moderate Automotive and HOTROD, Roy Witt moderates Autorace. RT> No problem with adding more for anybody who wants 'em, RT> either, or giving access to callers... Me too. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Running from the Klan in the Fiero (1:123/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00060 Date: 12/17/97 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 08:58pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Todd... RW> JP> Few have not. RW> Man, she sure gets around... Like a decent set of heads for a small block Chevy. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Running from the Klan in the Fiero (1:123/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00061 Date: 12/17/97 From: JOHN PUMMILL Time: 08:59pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: American Sports Car RW> OK...before the vette, there were other american sports RW> cars. Almost all of them used parts from the big car makers. RW> I remember Cunningham who built a roadster with a Chrysler RW> Hemi in it, just to name one off the top of my head. All of RW> which died around 55 or 56, after the vette and T-bird hit RW> the market. A company called Hunter makes quite the ride right now. There are still small pockets of auto manufacturers out there making one off specialty cars. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Running from the Klan in the Fiero (1:123/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00062 Date: 12/17/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 08:31pm \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Battery sizes DD>While tripping merrily through the mail, JAY EMRIE was overheard DD> JE> Please explain why people with SILVER utensils (knoves, forks, poons, DD> JE> teapots, etc.) have to keep polishing them to get rid of the tarnish DD> JE> and keep them looking pretty. DD>But is tarnish the same as corrosion (actual oxidation of the silver itself) I do not know Don, but with virtually evry other metal I have dealt with ANYthing that developed on the surface was some kind of oxidation, so I would assume tarnish=oxidation. * OLX 2.1 TD * Your worst nightmare: Bottle fed by Dolly Parton. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00063 Date: 12/17/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 08:37pm \/To: RONNIE THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes RT> -=> Quoting JAY EMRIE to MARK LOGSDON <=- RT> JE> Mark, I don't think your analogy will float. I've been there and done RT> JE> that. Tried to jumper a car with a dead battery. The jumper cables ot RT> JE> too hot to touch in just seconds. Turned out the car battery that was RT> JE> "dead" actually had a direct INTERNAL short. Didn't affect my battery RT> JE> or alternator one iota (that a bit of recharging didn't correct). RT>You were VERY lucky. If the one battery had a true short like you are RT>saying, there would usually have been a VERY STRONG spark, when you connecte RT>the jumper cables. I've seen batteries explode, as a result of an nternal RT>short, and it is NOT a pretty sight. I'm a Lefty. Lefty goes right along with being Lucky. Seriously, I have seen the results of a battery exploding. Next door neighbors exploded, and all he did was turn the key on getting ready to start and go to work. Sure made a mess under the hood. Luckily I was in my front yard. Got the hose and washed everything down, and poured the baking soda to everything. One wxploded in front of a parts house. The poor guy had just opened the hood enough for the engine compartment light to come on. Wonder why either of those blew up? * OLX 2.1 TD * If they learned from mistakes, They'd be geniuses! --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00064 Date: 12/17/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 08:57pm \/To: TOM WALKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery sizes TW>-> TW> That is really Not Possible. Alternators are Self Limiting as TW>-> far as TW>-> TW>Current output goes and WILL NOT basically put out more then their TW>-> Rated TW>-> TW>current. The Big problem with Jumpering a Car, Particularly one TW>-> with a TW>-> TW>bad battery is Voltage Spikes produced killing one or all of the TW>-> TW>Alternator Diodes. TW>-> TW>-> No, the single most disasterous possibility is the reversal of one TW>-> set of cables, thus putting reverse polarity on alternator diodes amd TW>-> blowing them! TW> NOT true at all, ALL diodes are rated for a certain PEAK REVERSE TW>voltage. And I can assure you Alternator Diodes are rated far higher TW>then 12- 15 volts available from a battery jump. In fact at one time TW>there was a conversion kit fro campers that allowed the standard TW>Vehicle Alternator. With an External regulator, to Put out 110 Volts DC TW>for whatever you needed it for. Lights and Universal Drill Motors, and TW>other AC/DC rated appliances. The Diodes stood up quite well so I TW>assume the Inverse Voltage rating is something MORE than 110 Volts. Tom, if you apply +12V to the anode of a diode and -12V to the cathode of a diode it will conduct Heavily!!! Then it is NOT reverse foltage, but FORWARD voltage. How many amps do you think would try to flow through that diode then? Seems like I remember the forward resistance of power diodes being something like .1 ohms. Assuming the good alternator was putting out 14V then something like 140 AMPS would try to flow through the diodes. Reckon they would take it? I think not. * OLX 2.1 TD * Is this the day it gets late earlier or early later? --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00065 Date: 12/17/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 09:03pm \/To: RONNIE THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Battery Terminals RT> -=> Quoting TOM WALKER to RONNIE THOMPSON <=- RT> -> CGM> Why do cars now have battery terminals made of steel instead of RT> -> lead, RT> -> CGM> as in the old days (I'm referring to top terminals, not side)? RT> -> I've never seen a battery with a steel post. Who makes em? RT> TW> All Lead Acid Automobile Batteries still have Lead or Lead RT> TW> Plated posts. It is the cable ends that sometimes have steel ends on RT> TW> them. Although most I have seen still have a very thin plating of RT> TW> lead. But some do not. RT>I've seen the cable ends with steel, mostly on smaller vehicles of foreign RT>manufacturers (used to be foreign anyhow), yet I've never seen a attery RT>with steel, such as George (Curious George) asked about. Wwith the conductance of steel (must be comparable to iron) being VERY close to lead it would seem reasonable to use steel EXCEPT for the corrosion factor of steel and the difficulty of cleaning rust off steel compared to cleaning lead. * OLX 2.1 TD * Mary had a little lamb. Boy was the doctor surprised! --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00066 Date: 12/17/97 From: JAY EMRIE Time: 09:06pm \/To: TOM WALKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Jumper Cables TW>-> Speaking of.....I'm looking to buy a good set of jumper cables for an TW>-> vehicle. The best deal I've found so far is a set of 16 ft. 4 guage TW>-> cables, TW>-> at Sams. Anyone out there seen any better deals?? BTW, they run TW>-> $19.99. The ones in my other vehicles are all 18 ft, 6 gauge, which TW>-> were bought a long TW>-> time ago at Sears. They have never failed to start a vehicle, yet TW>-> the 4 guage ones would be better. Anyone with a better deal then TW>-> the ones at Sams, TW>-> let me know. TW> The only recommendation would be to check and see if REAL copper is TW>used in the cables. Some jumper cables are using Aluminum wire. And aluminum cables sure are hard to handle! * OLX 2.1 TD * Never argue with a strong woman if she's tired or rested --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 246 AUTOMOTIVE Ref: EGM00067 Date: 12/17/97 From: DON LEWIS Time: 12:33pm \/To: JAY EMRIE (Read 0 times) Subj: Electrical loads, battery Jay Emrie wrote to Alan Morrison: JE> Also, I have a 550 CCA @ 0 degrees battery/750 CCA at 32 degrees. AM> The one at 32 degrees is CA (Cranking Amps). Thanks for all the AM> details! JE> Both indicate CCA. CCA is taken at 0F, CA at 32F, HCA at 80F (will usually equal CA), and CCA is normally about 20% lower than CA or HCA. Some companies, like Delco, derive their CCA ratings at -20F. --- AdeptXBBS v1.07g (Registered) * Origin: Tempe, AZ USA (602)491-5285 (1:114/20)