--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: E5^00004Date: 05/30/97 From: ALLAN LEE Time: 10:33am \/To: RICK COLLINS (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings rc> You _do_ know that command tells the modem "connect at this rc> speed, and if you can't, don't connect at all"? AL> Umm.. no, I just started reading this area a couple of days ago. RC> That's why I mentioned it. :-) RC> "Forcing" the modem doesn't cause it to connect at a speed higher RC> than it normally would. The idea of "forcing" is this: I have a RC> large file to send. I don't want to accept a connection less than RC> 28,800 (for example) because the transfer would take too long, so RC> I'll tell the modem "if you can't connect at 28,800, don't connect, RC> you'll be wasting my money". You'd normally do this sort of thing RC> with "unattended" operation where the program will try later if it RC> fails to connect the first time at the given speed. Good thing the bill here is just flat rate/month. RC> The modem determines the maximum speed it can connect at, depending RC> on line conditions. None of the available commands will affect this, RC> but they can be used to prevent an unwanted connection at a lower RC> speed. RC> Some modems also provide a "floor" command. You can then tell the RC> modem "don't connect unless you can negotiate a speed between (floor) RC> and (ceiling)". You could then configure the modem to accept between RC> 14,000 and 28,800, for example. Can you give me an example init string (your modem's)? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: MACH2/VULCAN OS/2 SYSTEMS 1-403-489-4250 (1:342/61) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: E5^00005Date: 05/30/97 From: ALLAN LEE Time: 10:37am \/To: BOB STURGEON (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings AL> BS> I too have a 33H-P-CL plug & pray modem. Now that I have a new AL> BS> chip from Logicode I can at least tell what the DCE speed is AL> BS> :-))) AL> What was wrong before? BS> The chip that came with the modem would not allow the DCE speed to be BS> displayed once a CONNECT was made ... when I used ATW2 for DCE speed, BS> the screen would freeze and not allow any input. The new chip solved BS> that problem completely. BS> You can tell if you have the defective chip by trying ATW2 and see what BS> happens. The other way is to issue the ATI1 command. BS> CD04.08 - MM03.18P5 - SP 03 <--- bad chip BS> CD04.08 - MM03.26P5 - SP 03 <--- good chip I'll check mine after... AL> So far, I've connected 26400-28800 to bbses with 28800 modems and AL> 28800-33600 to bbses with 33600. But for some reason, when I AL> connect 28800 to a bbs with a 33600, the whole connection freezes AL> 30 seconds after I connect, then it gives me the OK sign. BS> That is really strange! How do you know what speeds that you and the BS> BBS are connected at? I connect 99.8% of the time at 31,200 with an BS> occasional 33,600 and sometimes a 28,800 to my 33.6 BBS. Every BS> connection is rock solid and never an error with u/l or d/ls. It's about 30 seconds after the connection to the BBS. Then it freezes. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: MACH2/VULCAN OS/2 SYSTEMS 1-403-489-4250 (1:342/61) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: E5^00006Date: 05/30/97 From: BOB STURGEON Time: 05:55pm \/To: DAVID BOWERMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings Hi David ... on 28 May you suggested, BS> DB> Logicode has a file called CIR33TXT.EXE available from their BS> DB> web page. It's Cirrus Logic's list of AT commands for their BS> DB> 33k6 chipset. While it includes all the commands including BS> DB> voice and others that your modem might not support, it should BS> DB> be a starting point for you. Found it and many thanks! I suspect that this may be just what I am looking for. However, can you tell me how to read either of the two files contained in the EXE (SFX) file? They are CIR33TXT.RTF and CIR33TXT.TXT and both files defy deciphering ... at least to my DOS system. I remember many years ago that there was an "RTF" format for IBM mainframe files called something like "Rich Text Format" but surely this can't be that. The TXT file has a lot of high ASCII characters and has no LF/CR controls. I tried reading the files using VIEW97A and it thought the TXT file might be Wordstar but it was still garbage. Can you or anyone else either tell me where to find a) a readable copy of these files or b) a translation programme for DOS and where it can be FTP'd from. As the cleaning lady once said, "... I don't do Windows ..." so I need to find a way to read either of these files using DOS 6.22 Bye for now ... Bob * SLMR 2.1a * --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: E5^00007Date: 05/30/97 From: DAVID BOWERMAN Time: 10:14pm \/To: BOB STURGEON (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings Bob Sturgeon wrote in a message to David Bowerman: BS> However, can you tell me how to read either of the two files BS> contained in the EXE (SFX) file? They are CIR33TXT.RTF and BS> CIR33TXT.TXT and both files defy deciphering ... at least to my DOS BS> system. I remember many years ago that there was an "RTF" format BS> for IBM mainframe files called something like "Rich Text Format" BS> but surely this can't be that. The TXT file has a lot of high BS> ASCII characters and has no LF/CR controls. I tried reading the BS> files using VIEW97A and it thought the TXT file might be Wordstar BS> but it was still garbage. Yep, a descendant of that rich text format. I've done a quick and dirty conversion (ran the .rtf file through a REXX rtf->html convertor and then printed the html to a file.). Pretty quick and dirty but should be somewhat readable -- the formatting even when I looked at the original .rtf stank. Look for CIR33.TXT in the same area where you foung CIR33TXT.EXE. Regards, David --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: Frog Hollow -- a scenic backroad off the Infobahn (1:153/290) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA100000Date: 05/31/97 From: DAVID BOWERMAN Time: 02:59pm \/To: ALLAN LEE (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings Allan Lee wrote in a message to Rick Collins: RC> Some modems also provide a "floor" command. You can then tell the RC> modem "don't connect unless you can negotiate a speed between (floor) RC> and (ceiling)". You could then configure the modem to accept between RC> 14,000 and 28,800, for example. AL> Can you give me an example init string (your modem's)? USR modems that support the &U and &N commands would use AT&U8&N16 to keep connect speeds between 14,400 and 33,600. Regards, David --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: Frog Hollow -- a scenic backroad off the Infobahn (1:153/290) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA100001Date: 05/31/97 From: MIKE FARRILL Time: 10:26am \/To: JAMES COLE (Read 6 times) Subj: Re: Pacific Bell -> I would suggest you log and capture as much of your modeming -> activity as possible now, so's you'll have comparison material to -> work with after the May 31st cutover. I did that, and the new switchboard helped for the most part I'll give you some stats. NIGHT CREATURE BEFORE:21600 AFTER:28800 AWAITER BBS BEFORE:21600/24000/26400 AFTER:28800 MADDOG BBS BEFORE:21600/19200 AFTER:24000 AMERICA ONLINE BEFORE:24000 AFTER:28800 USROBOTICS BBS BEFORE:24000 AFTER:28800 PLEASANT BBS BEFORE:28800 AFTER:26400 JACK's BBS BEFORE 26400 AFTER:24000 I'm using a lousy 28800 modem with a three year old rom, and am planning on getting a USR Courier. That might help with my speeds even more. --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: MADDOG! BBS : (510) 895-8089 : San Leandro, Ca. (1:215/13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA100002Date: 05/31/97 From: ALLAN LEE Time: 12:50pm \/To: DAVID BOWERMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings BS> However, can you tell me how to read either of the two files BS> contained in the EXE (SFX) file? They are CIR33TXT.RTF and BS> CIR33TXT.TXT and both files defy deciphering ... at least to my DOS BS> system. I remember many years ago that there was an "RTF" format BS> for IBM mainframe files called something like "Rich Text Format" BS> but surely this can't be that. The TXT file has a lot of high BS> ASCII characters and has no LF/CR controls. I tried reading the BS> files using VIEW97A and it thought the TXT file might be Wordstar BS> but it was still garbage. DB> Yep, a descendant of that rich text format. I've done DB> a quick and dirty conversion (ran the .rtf file through DB> a REXX rtf->html convertor and then printed the html to DB> a file.). Pretty quick and dirty but should be DB> somewhat readable -- the formatting even when I looked DB> at the original .rtf stank. DB> Look for CIR33.TXT in the same area where you foung CIR33TXT.EXE. Can you send them to me? kamen@probfate.alive.ampr.ab.ca Thanks. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: MACH2/VULCAN OS/2 SYSTEMS 1-403-489-4250 (1:342/61) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA100003Date: 05/31/97 From: BOB STURGEON Time: 09:14pm \/To: DAVID BOWERMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings Hi David ... on 30 May 97 you wrote, DB> BS> However, can you tell me how to read either of the two files DB> BS> contained in the EXE (SFX) file? They are CIR33TXT.RTF and DB> BS> CIR33TXT.TXT and both files defy deciphering ... at least to DB> BS> my DOS system. I remember many years ago that there was an DB> BS> "RTF" format for IBM mainframe files called something like DB> BS> "Rich Text Format" but surely this can't be that. The TXT file DB> BS> has a lot of high ASCII characters and has no LF/CR controls. DB> BS> I tried reading the files using VIEW97A and it thought the TXT DB> BS> file might be Wordstar but it was still garbage. DB> Yep, a descendant of that rich text format. I've done a quick and DB> dirty conversion (ran the .rtf file through a REXX rtf->html DB> converter and then printed the html to a file.). Pretty quick and DB> dirty but should be somewhat readable -- the formatting even when I DB> looked at the original .rtf stank. DB> Look for CIR33.TXT in the same area where you found CIR33TXT.EXE. Got the CIR33.TXT file from your BBS and it is somewhat more readable. Many thanks for the Q&D conversion. I guess that I will plunk it into QEdit and reformat it paragraph by paragraph manually! Oh well, there is only about 1800 lines :-(( Have you any idea why any responsible manufacturer would put all this valuable information into an unreadable format? I wonder what wordprocessing product these two files were intended to be used with? Bye for now ... Bob * SLMR 2.1a * --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA100004Date: 05/31/97 From: DAVID BOWERMAN Time: 11:24pm \/To: BOB STURGEON (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings Bob Sturgeon wrote in a message to David Bowerman: BS> Have you any idea why any responsible manufacturer would put all BS> this valuable information into an unreadable format? I wonder what BS> wordprocessing product these two files were intended to be used BS> with? MS Word and quite a few other word processors will accept the RTF format as input. As for the weird text format, ghod alone knows what was used to read that. Regards, David --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: Frog Hollow -- a scenic backroad off the Infobahn (1:153/290) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 105 HIGH SPEED MODEM Ref: EA200000Date: 05/31/97 From: RICK COLLINS Time: 10:17am \/To: DAVID BOWERMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: Init Strings -=> Quoting David Bowerman to Rick Collins <=- -=> FidoMail to 1:163/215, please.-=< db> Nope. E1 and E0 control echoing characters back in command mode db> before the connection is made while F1 and F0 control echoing db> the characters back in on-line mode after the connection is db> made. If it was good enough for a SmartModem 300... ;-)) Yup, you're right. I wasn't reading closely enough. :-) TTFN. Rick. Ottawa, ON 31 May 10:18 --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215)