--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF400004 Date: 11/03/97 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 07:55am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: PBS Mystery! series > The Campion series was especially interesting because I > kept thinking I had > seen him before. It took awhile, but I finally recognized > him as one of the > six "Dr Who" incarnations--definitely a versatile actor. Peter Davison is also well-known for his portrayal of younger brother and scalliwag Tristan Farnum on the TV series "All Creatures Great and Small". --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500000 Date: 11/03/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 11:25pm \/To: RUSS JERNIGAN (Read 1 times) Subj: FIDO troubles -=> Quoting Russ Jernigan to Suzze Tiernan <=- RJ> BTW, did you get this? As a matter of fact --- no. RJ> On topic, I recently finished Dick Francis newest (dang, I just forgot RJ> the title). While it was a good read, I didn't enjoy it as much as RJ> his previous few. _To The Hilt_, _Wild Horses_, and _Decider_ by him RJ> were all excellent. 10 Pound Penalty. Isn't this his last book? ... suzze@concentric.net --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500001 Date: 11/03/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 11:25pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 1 times) Subj: Pot pourri -=> Quoting Fred Runk to Steven Horn <=- FR> CR: Batya Gur, LITERARY MURDER, 155/357 Fred, tell me about this. I sell a lot of copies, but haven't decided yet if I want to read it. ... suzze@concentric.net --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500002 Date: 11/03/97 From: STEVEN HORN Time: 08:52pm \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 1 times) Subj: Anne Perry Jan Murphy (1:161/84) wrote to Steven Horn at 09:43 on 01 Nov 1997: JM> I agree, except that I would express the problem in a slightly JM> different way. JM> The problem is not *only* that the characters don't develop. There JM> are other writers whose series characters go on making the same JM> blunders in their personal lives over and over, but the rest of the JM> story is engaging enough that the reader doesn't really care. If JM> the books were solid in other ways, it wouldn't matter so much. I'm not so sure about that. One would hope to see some growth and change. JM> No, the real problem, IMHO, is that Perry has set up an expectation JM> that the characters *will* develop. We both want and expect Monk JM> to regain his memory; in every book Perry toys with our curiosity JM> about what he was like before his accident. And lord knows she JM> hints enough about the painful three-way relationship between Monk, JM> Hester Latterly, and Oliver Rathbone. There are enough hints JM> throughout that we expect something to develop. JM> And things do happen -- but at a glacial pace. Maybe Monk will get JM> one new scrap of memory in the course of a 600-page book. Or we'll JM> get one measly Incident between Monk and Hester, or Hester and JM> Oliver. The rest of the time, we just get the same carbon-copy JM> churning and angst that doesn't go anywhere. I'm not a great mystery fan in that I often don't care about who killed whom and how it was done. Instead, I like seeing character development and character interplay as in the Sharyn McCrumb "appalachia" novels or Colin Dexter's books about Inspector Morse. L. R. Wright (a Canadian) is another favorite of mine. The Monk novels are rather wooden by comparison but someone must like their puzzles as Anne Perry certainly sells. JM> Contrast this with the development of the relationship between Lord JM> Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane over the four HV books by Dorothy JM> Sayers and the difference becomes very clear. And sure, if you JM> compare Perry and Sayers, then it's quite fair to say that there is JM> no development in Perry. I've always thought that what happens between Lord Peter and Harriet happens rather quickly but there's certainly character development. And I do re-read those four again and again. JM> I wonder how many books Perry expects us to wade through before JM> Something Really Happens? If the length of the Pitt series is any JM> clue, we'll have a long wait. What do you mean, "we .....?" :-) Take care, Steven Horn (shorn@yknet.yk.ca) Moderator CAN_SYSLAW --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: Yukon Mail, Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada (1:3409/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500003 Date: 11/03/97 From: STEVEN HORN Time: 09:02pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 1 times) Subj: Pot pourri Fred Runk (1:300/105) wrote to Steven Horn at 13:22 on 02 Nov 1997: FR> No, usually it's a two hour made-for-TV movie. I normally see those advertised but gaven't seen an ad for any of these. Post a note if you become aware of one. FR> Well, remember Monk has amnesia, but we do know he has a sister and FR> we learned a bit about Hester's relatives in the first book. But, FR> we really haven't learned that much, as you point out, in the 4-5? FR> books about them. I certainly haven't learned enough to want to have coffee or lunch with them.:-) Take care, Steven Horn (shorn@yknet.yk.ca) Moderator CAN_SYSLAW --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: Yukon Mail, Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada (1:3409/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500004 Date: 11/03/97 From: RUSS JERNIGAN Time: 05:18pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 1 times) Subj: PBS Mystery! series Hi, Fred! FR> JW> I have really enjoyed many of the PBS Mystery! series also. I FR> JW> loved the "Albert Campion" series. Also "Chandler & Co." It was FR>The Campion series was especially interesting because I kept thinking I ad FR>seen him before. It took awhile, but I finally recognized him as one of the FR>six "Dr Who" incarnations--definitely a versatile actor. Not to mention Tristian in "All Creatures Great and Small". As you say, versatile. Best, RussJ * SLMR 2.1a * Chinese char. for Crisis: danger + opportunity --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 * Origin: Rams' Island BBS (1:104/333.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500005 Date: 11/01/97 From: MICHAEL LABRECK Time: 10:37pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 1 times) Subj: Agatha Christie readers? Fred: ML> I honestly can say that I haven't read any other mysteries other than ML> Agatha Christie. Some of my friends are giving me the names of some ML> authors, but I've forgotten their names. ML> Any suggestions for mystery/suspense authors besides Agatha Christie? ML> Thanks in advance.... FR> If you like works from Christie's era, then try Dorothy Sayers--her FR> detective is Lord Peter Wimsey--another one I first encountered on FR> MYSTERY! Other favorites of mine of Elizabeth George, Martha Grimes, FR> Colin Dexter, Ellis Peters, William Bayers, PD James... I'll look into Dorothy Sayers, and let you know how I like her -- thanks! FR> I'm sure you'll get other names around here. I'm sure that I will.... -={Michael}=- --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: A Bit Of Light In Your Night 860/290-8578 10p-8a Only (1:142/578) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EF500006 Date: 11/04/97 From: IRV KOCH Time: 09:20pm \/To: FREDERICK OSBORNE (Read 3 times) Subj: Sherlock Holmes FO> Are there any other Sherlock Holmes enthusiasts out there? FO> I know that GT Net has an echo dedicated to Sherlock Holmes. Couldn't FO> find one here but this Mystery echo is as close as I could get. I'm a Confederate of Wisteria Lodge (Atlanta). I don't think there's any other Mystery echo, Holmsian or not, in Fido. Is GT net still alive??? --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Ice Fire 423-267-3789 (1:362/629) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EFA00000 Date: 11/05/97 From: FRED RUNK Time: 01:21pm \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 1 times) Subj: Golden Agers -=>While in the White Hart, Jan Murphy explained to Fred Runk that<=- > ST> I recently read "Strong Poison", the first Sayer I > had read and LOVED > ST> it! I definitely plan on reading more. > > I don't remember that one at all. Is it a Lord Peter Wimsey > mystery? JM> Strong Poison is indeed a Lord Peter Wimsey mystery. It is JM> the first of the four LPW books which also feature mystery JM> writer Harriet Vane. Is that the one where she's accused of murder? If so, then I've seen the MYSTERY! production of it, but I never read the book. Perhaps that's why I didn't remember it at first. Stuff on TV tends to be ephemeral. FINISHED: Jack Finney. TIME AND AGAIN FINISHED: Batya Gur. LITERARY MURDER CR: Laurie S. King. A GRAVE TALENT, 192/342 CR: Robert Phillips, ed. TRIUMPH OF THE NIGHT, 324/366, ghost story coll. CR: Marcel Proust. Book 2, WITHIN A BUDDING GROVE, 65/546 Email: fredr@gci-net.com ... If it isn't war, then why is CNN massing on the border? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: EFA00001 Date: 11/05/97 From: FRED RUNK Time: 01:25pm \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Albert Campion, Detectiv -=>While in the White Hart, Jan Wertz explained to Fred Runk that<=- JW> I didn't know he had played a Dr. Who! I last saw that actor JW> playing the part of Tristan Farnon on the All Creatures series in which JW> he played a country veterinarian in the series taken from James JW> Herriot's books! Quite an actor! Not only has he driven a vintage car JW> in 2 series, flown a tardis, but he has had to be *very* familiar with JW> cows! I still don't remember his name--which is why it took me so long to place him. I don't think he was Dr Who for very long though. FINISHED: Jack Finney. TIME AND AGAIN FINISHED: Batya Gur. LITERARY MURDER CR: Laurie S. King. A GRAVE TALENT, 192/342 CR: Robert Phillips, ed. TRIUMPH OF THE NIGHT, 324/366, ghost story coll. CR: Marcel Proust. Book 2, WITHIN A BUDDING GROVE, 65/546 Email: fredr@gci-net.com ... "Power corrupts.....absolute power corrupts absolutely." -Lord Acton- ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105)