--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00000 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 05:20am \/To: BELLE BIJOU (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Books -[ Quoting Belle Bijou <02-12-97 01:02>, to Dennis Menard ]- >Sea" from Hemingway. Effective! migrations from one medium to another >may be rare but they are out there. Short stories seem to work best due >to the limited time film has to tell the tale. BB> Let's add the most recent (and highly successful) transition from book BB> to movie - The English Patient - just nominated for 13 Academy Awards. BB> And, in my opinion probably deserving almost all of them. I have yet to see the movie but I am looking forward to it. :) -< Dennis >- ... Man who stands on toilet is high on pot. -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00001 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 06:38am \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Books to Movies -[ Quoting Jan Wertz <02-11-97 00:22>, to Dennis Menard ]- JW> You were talking about the problems/ virtues/ vices of turning a book JW> into a movie. With some exceptions, I think the story which JW> translates best to a movie is a long short story (novella). The JW> Novella has time enough for the development of a few characters and a JW> main theme/ plot line. As you pointed out to the other poster, a full JW> sized novel is too complex, has too many characters and their JW> interrelationships to translate very well to the screen. JW> Unfortunately, many will try. the result is that most of what the JW> novel was good at, the movie isn't. It becomes entirely too busy. One JW> very nice surprise was 'The Hunt For Red October'. I loved it! Others JW> are a disapointment. To me, to present a good movie, the director JW> and/ or screen writer have to have decided what was important, and have JW> a goal in mind for what they want to do with the story. Simple. But JW> too few can actually *do* it. JW> -!- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 JW> ! Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) ... Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00002 Date: 02/16/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 08:34am \/To: BELLE BIJOU (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Books -[ Quoting Belle Bijou <02-12-97 01:02>, to Dennis Menard ]- BB> Let's add the most recent (and highly successful) transition from book BB> to movie - The English Patient - just nominated for 13 Academy Awards. BB> And, in my opinion probably deserving almost all of them. I am looking forward to seeing this film; it has not arrived north of the 60th parallel yet, though ... unhappily (unless I was asleep that week; not an impossibility, I assure you). I will keep your recommendations in mind. Thank you. :) -< Dennis >- ... The hurrier I go, the behinder I get... -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00003 Date: 02/16/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 09:16am \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Books to Movies -[ Quoting Jan Wertz <02-11-97 00:22>, to Dennis Menard ]- JW> novel was good at, the movie isn't. It becomes entirely too busy. One JW> very nice surprise was 'The Hunt For Red October'. I loved it! Others I agree with you RE: "The Hunt for Red October." It was one of Clancy's better books (actually, his best - by far, imho) and a good film, as well. The "busy-ness" of movies is probably the by-product of the phenomenal burst of creativity in the special effects field, the short attention spans of the "fast food" generation and (at least in my opinion) an increasing drift from the written word to visually-oriented media. Heaven knows, I love the movies ... but had I to make a choice, I'd have no hesitation in opting for literary and audio drama/comedy where one can view their "own" imagination as an integral element to enjoyment of the story. NO I don't like Books on Tape; but I really do enjoy "movies for the ears." :) :) "Acting out" (as opposed to narrating to) a story for the "listener." JW> are a disapointment. To me, to present a good movie, the director JW> and/ or screen writer have to have decided what was important, and have JW> a goal in mind for what they want to do with the story. Simple. But Yes, I concur. Far fewer, but higher quality, films would be very welcome. Unfortunately, Hollywood seems to cater to the lowest common denominator and that benchmark is steadily sinking ... with but few gems rising to the top. I protest by watching slower-paced foreign films and continuing to read. :) At any rate, back to Mystery ... -< Dennis >- ... A whale in shallow water amuses the shrimp. -Chinese Proverb -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00004 Date: 02/17/97 From: POLLY FITT-JONES Time: 07:48am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 5 times) Subj: Inspector Morse Hi Fred... Are the Inspector Morse novels as good as the PBS series? I really enjoy that series. Also, the PRIME SUSPECT series. Perhaps I enjoy Helen Mirren's acting more than the plots...I'm not sure which. Regards....Polly --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Awakening - Lakewood WA (206)582-5579 HST16/V32b/VFC/V34 (1:138/102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2M00005 Date: 02/17/97 From: POLLY FITT-JONES Time: 08:04am \/To: SUZZE TIERNAN (Read 5 times) Subj: The Cat Who.... Hello Suzz... ST> Finished reading the new Cat Who... book last ST> night. It was funny. There ST> Finished reading the new Cat Who... book last ST> night. It was funny. There ST> is a "thread" in it about cat names that is ST> hilarious. The cat Who books ST> are a great mindless read. I really enjoy the Cat Who books! It all came into perspective in my mind when you refered to them as "great mindless reads". I had just finished a 500 pager about the Ark of the Covenant. The Sign and the Seal by Graham Hancock. I have never had any particular interest that would lead me to read 500 pages about the Ark of the Covenant, I just really enjoy the author and the topics he writes about. However....the way he wrote it, he was like a detective tracking down the clues. Now that caught my interest! He would write about what he had deduced, where he thought the next clue would take him...and after 500 pages I decided I needed a change of pace. I got one book with 3 Cat stories by Lillian Braun and what a joy! Have you read "The Cat Who Saw Red"? I have a question about that one...if Koko and Yum Yum discovered what Joy Graham (Qwilleran's old flame of many many years ago) was using to make the wonderful, phosphorescent glaze she used on her pottery (before her husband killed her and stole the secret ingredient to use on his own pottery) well, what was she herself using and where did she get it from? If he was a rotter for making glaze that way then she also must have been a rotter...and how could Qwilleran's true love have done such a thing? I guess you would have to have read it to understand my question. I even have a 90 year old cousin in Rhode Island who reads the Cat Whos. Regards....Polly --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Awakening - Lakewood WA (206)582-5579 HST16/V32b/VFC/V34 (1:138/102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2N00000 Date: 02/18/97 From: JAN WERTZ Time: 01:10am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Books to Movies You said that Hollywood caters to the lowest common denomenator. I agree! Maybe that's why most of the Oscars and other awards this year seem to be going to independent film efforts. As for mysteries, i tend to prefer British productions. Fortunately, between the Educational channel and A&E, there are some to choose from. Although, I have gotten tired of Poirot! Agatha at her best is faboulous, but enough of one character is enough. I like 'Cadfael' and "Chambers & Co.' too. With no chase scenes to tie up time, they actually have some character development! Lovejoy was a good series, and one of the few where I found i preferred the TV series to the books! --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 * Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2T00000 Date: 02/19/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:14pm \/To: POLLY FITT-JONES (Read 5 times) Subj: The Cat Who.... -=> Quoting Polly Fitt-Jones to Suzze Tiernan <=- PF> PF> I really enjoy the Cat Who books! It all came into perspective in my PF> mind when you refered to them as "great mindless reads". I had just PF> finished a 500 pager about the Ark of the Covenant. The Sign and the PF> Seal by Graham Hancock. I have never had any particular interest that PF> would lead me to read 500 pages about the Ark of the Covenant, I just PF> really enjoy the author and the topics he writes about. However....the PF> way he wrote it, he was like a detective tracking down the clues. Now PF> that caught my interest! He would write about what he had deduced, PF> where he thought the next clue would take him...and after 500 pages I PF> decided I needed a change of pace. I sometimes have to pick up a quick read in the middle of a long one. Makes me feel like I'm making some progress in the TBR pile. Although I brought home 5 ARCs yesterday, so the pile is only getting bigger! I got one book with 3 Cat stories PF> by Lillian Braun and what a joy! Did it have other stories as well? I have seen the "14 Tales" book by her. PF> Have you read "The Cat Who Saw Red"? I have a question about Yes, I reda it ages ago and can't remember enough about it to talk about it at all! question. PF> PF> I even have a 90 year old cousin in Rhode Island who reads the Cat PF> Whos. I hope that, if I'm lucky enough to still be here at 90, I'm still reading! ... In a restaurant, choose a table near a waiter. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2T00001 Date: 02/19/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:34pm \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 5 times) Subj: Books to Movies -=> Quoting Dennis Menard to Jan Wertz <=- DM> NO I don't like Books on Tape; but I really do enjoy "movies for the DM> ears." :) :) "Acting out" (as opposed to narrating to) a story for the DM> "listener." My favorite is the Stephen King story "The Mist". It is done with binaural sound which makes it seem like someone in the basement is below you, and a truck driving by is actually going past you. ... Friends are the chocolate chips in the cookies of life. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2T00002 Date: 02/22/97 From: JOAN RENNE Time: 12:51am \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 5 times) Subj: Cat Poem DR>Hello to all you cat lovers out there. While browsing in a book DR>store I found a book of poems written about cats, which of course DR>I purchased. Then sent it to a friend for Christmas, but before sending DR>copied this poem, which I think says it all. Want to share it with DR>all of you. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did ---Dorothy