--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00005 Date: 02/10/97 From: JAN WERTZ Time: 10:20am \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Short mysteries Thanks for the Ellery Queen tip. I had not realized that magazine was still available. I am a fan of good reading in any genre, Elery Queen Mysteries included. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 * Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2G00000 Date: 02/10/97 From: RUSS JERNIGAN Time: 07:25pm \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Short mysteries Hi, Jan and Fred DR> Dorothy Reynolds here. If you like short mysteries, there is an DR> Ellery Queen magazine still kicking around and full of good short DR> stories. Someone donates theirs to our private library and they're DR> always popular with the residents. DR> Might try it, if you're an Ellery Queen fan. Me, I prefer the _Alfred Hitchcock_ Magazine. Oddly enough, the personalities of the two have changed over the years. EQ would not like his magazine, IMNSHO, and AH would find his too "tame". Best, RussJ DR> FW> -!- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 DR> FW> ! Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) DR>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 DR>--- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] DR> * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) * SLMR 2.1a * Some people's ruts make MINE look like the Grand Canyon! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 * Origin: Rams' Island BBS (1:104/333.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2G00001 Date: 02/11/97 From: JAN WERTZ Time: 12:22am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Books to Movies You were talking about the problems/ virtues/ vices of turning a book into a movie. With some exceptions, I think the story which translates best to a movie is a long short story (novella). The Novella has time enough for the development of a few characters and a main theme/ plot line. As you pointed out to the other poster, a full sized novel is too complex, has too many characters and their interrelationships to translate very well to the screen. Unfortunately, many will try. the result is that most of what the novel was good at, the movie isn't. It becomes entirely too busy. One very nice surprise was 'The Hunt For Red October'. I loved it! Others are a disapointment. To me, to present a good movie, the director and/ or screen writer have to have decided what was important, and have a goal in mind for what they want to do with the story. Simple. But too few can actually *do* it. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 * Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2G00002 Date: 02/12/97 From: BELLE BIJOU Time: 01:02am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Books I'd like to say to , Dennis Menard (1:3409/3) who said: >I think the movie version of "The Firm" (by Grisham) stood up well >against >the book (unlike the other Grisham titles put on film); and, I enjoyed >both >even though the movie ending was completely! different. The movie >version >of "Firefox" (by C.Thomas) was also very well done in relation to the >book. >So too "The Joy Luck Club" (by Tan) ... though abbreviated. How about >"The >Man Who Would be King" from Kipling's short story, and "The Old Man and >the >Sea" from Hemingway. Effective! migrations from one medium to another >may >be rare but they are out there. Short stories seem to work best due to >the >limited time film has to tell the tale. Let's add the most recent (and highly successful) transition from book to movie - The English Patient - just nominated for 13 Academy Awards. And, in my opinion probably deserving almost all of them. --- msged 2.05 * Origin: 1:109/253 Dinah's Scrabblemania (1:109/253) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2G00003 Date: 02/12/97 From: JAN WERTZ Time: 12:29am \/To: SUZZE TIERNAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Short Mysteries I have also enjoyed reading and enjoying all the Louis Lamor Westerns, Sackets and all. Another favorite Western author is Will Henry, who writes from the Native American point of view. Tony Hillerman writes a great mystery set in the modernday West, from a Dineh (Navajo) perspective. I have been in the area that these tend to be set in, and it is a harst barren, yet beautifully abstract land. Once you go there, it becomes part of your psyche. Some of Tony's bad guys are a bit much, but his local characters, and the change in cultural perspective make it worth while to read all of them. *Loved* "Coyote Waits". And, he is right, Coyote *does* wait for all of us, if we are unwary enough to not keep a look out for where we are going... --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 * Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2H00000 Date: 02/12/97 From: DOROTHY REYNOLDS Time: 07:25pm \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Books -=> Quoting Fn:dennis Menard ot-on-f to Bears <=- FM> -[ Quoting Dorothy Reynolds <02-07-97 12:16>, to Dennis Lucey ]- DR> most exciting books I've read in quite awhile. Don't know why DR> Hollywood has to take a perfectly great book and ruin it. DR> One of the reasons I seldom watch a "made from" movie. Think FM> I think the movie version of "The Firm" (by Grisham) stood up well FM> against the book (unlike the other Grisham titles put on film); and, I FM> enjoyed both even though the movie ending was completely! different. Have to agree with you on this. In some instances, the movie version is even improved upon than the book itself. Maybe I'm an odd duck, but if I read a good book that is unforgettable, I feel as if I'm being cheated when the movie leaves me feeling let down. Happens quite a bit and makes me tend to stay away from the movies, but have to admit overall the movies do a pretty good job of adapting a book to a good screenplay. FM> How about "The Man Who Would be King" from Kipling's FM> short story, and "The Old Man and the Sea" from Hemingway. Effective! You are correct about these. In fact, I enjoyed those two pictures immensely. Made the story come alive. FM> FM> The movie-going experience's as completely different from the FM> experience of reading a book as reading about Art is from visiting an FM> art gallery. How very true. Visual things stay with us longer and we each interpret what we see in different ways. Especially art. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Thank you for your very thoughtful input. You've given me a whole new outlook. I'll stop complaining about the movies taking poetic license with books and enjoy the movie for art's sake and look on them as a "new experience." Sincerely, Dorothy FM> ... Evolution: Life's a niche, and then you die. FM> -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 FM> -!- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) FM> ! Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2H00001 Date: 02/12/97 From: DOROTHY REYNOLDS Time: 07:25pm \/To: SUZZE TIERNAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Absolute Power -=> Quoting Fn:suzze Tiernan@1:2410/2 to Bears <=- -=> Quoting dorothy reynolds to DENNIS LUCEY <=- dr> Thanks for the info. Let me know if you go see Absolute Power and dr> what you think of it. FT> I plan on going to see it on Feb. 20th. (I go every Thursday morning). FT> I am hoping it is GREAT! Hi Suzze: Have heard some pretty good feedback from the movie critics. Certainly has a great cast. I seldom go to movies but wait until they come out in video. Since I don't drive anymore, it's too costly to go see a movie, as I have to go by cab or take a long bus ride to get to the theater. I just started a thriller by A.J. Holt. Title; "Watch Me." It's the author's first and is getting rave reviews. Don't know if it's written by a man or a woman, not that it makes any difference. A good book is a good book, eh what? I'll be reporting back to you of course. (G). Dorothy FT> ... I will gladly pay you Tuesday...for a tagline today! FT> -!- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 FT> ! Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2H00002 Date: 02/12/97 From: DOROTHY REYNOLDS Time: 07:25pm \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Short mysteries -=> Quoting Fn:jan Wertz@1:123/17.0 to Bears <=- FW> Thanks for the Ellery Queen tip. I had not realized that magazine FW> was still available. I am a fan of good reading in any genre, Elery FW> Queen Mysteries included. Hello Jan; You're welcome for the tip. I didn't know it was around either, until several of them were donated to our private library in the building where I live. And since I'm the librarian, get to see the stuff that comes in. The magazine seems to be very popular with the tenants and gets checked out almost as soon as I put it away. I too am a fan of reading in many genres, but mysteries are my favorites. Am also a budding writer, and appreciate anything that is well-written. In fact, I read so many books, I wonder where I find the time to do my own writing. (G). Nice talking to you Jan. I'll stay in touch. Dorothy FW> -!- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 FW> ! Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2K00000 Date: 02/13/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:33pm \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 5 times) Subj: Movies from Books -=> Quoting Dennis Menard to Dorothy Reynolds <=- DM> I think the movie version of "The Firm" (by Grisham) stood up well DM> against the book (unlike the other Grisham titles put on film); and, I DM> enjoyed both even though the movie ending was completely! different. DM> The movie version of "Firefox" (by C.Thomas) was also very well done in DM> relation to the book. So too "The Joy Luck Club" (by Tan) ... though DM> abbreviated. How about "The Man Who Would be King" from Kipling's DM> short story, and "The Old Man and the Sea" from Hemingway. Effective! DM> migrations from one medium to another may be rare but they are out About 8 years ago I saw the movie "Beaches" with Bette Midler. LOVED it. Noticed it was based on a book, which I happened to find at a used book sale last year. Just read it this week, then rented the movie to see it again. I don't think there is ONE thing in the movie the same as the book. The book was soooooo good, and now, seen in relation to the book, the movie STINKS! DM> The movie-going experience's as completely different from the DM> experience of reading a book as reading about Art is from visiting an DM> art gallery. That's why many movies are "BASED on the novel by ..." - DM> because, only a select few of the story CAN be portrayed DM> within a 2 or 3 hour window. Planning to see "Absolute Power" next week. Wonder how it will hold up? ... Did you take a shower? There seems to be one missing. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2K00001 Date: 02/13/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:48pm \/To: RUSS JERNIGAN (Read 5 times) Subj: Short mysteries -=> Quoting Russ Jernigan to Jan Wertz <=- DR> Might try it, if you're an Ellery Queen fan. RJ> Me, I prefer the _Alfred Hitchcock_ Magazine. Oddly enough, the RJ> personalities of the two have changed over the years. EQ would not RJ> like his magazine, IMNSHO, and AH would find his too "tame". Russ, you wouldn't happen to have the Dec. '96 issue of AH would you? I have been looking for it for ages. When I went to buy it the Jan. issue had just come out. ... Tourists - beware of tour operators named Russ --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278)