--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2D00003 Date: 02/08/97 From: JAN WERTZ Time: 11:27pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Short mysteries Oh! On short mysteries, I forgot all about "Rumpole of the Bailey!!" One book of those was enough for me. I enjoyed them well enough, but after that book, I had just had my fill. Rather like having eaten a satisfying meal, I was content. Happy with what I had had, and not really needing seconds. The Rumpole stories have that famous tongue-in-cheek British satirical wit. I thoroughly enjoyed the volume I read, and passed it along to a friend. And, they are short. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 * Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2E00000 Date: 02/09/97 From: DOROTHY REYNOLDS Time: 05:14pm \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Books -=> Quoting Fn:jan Murphy ot-on-file to Bears <=- Would > hate to > see this conference fade into oblivion. Tell me I'm > wrong, please? FM> Hi Dorothy, FM> FM> This echo is not going to shut down. All the echos distributed by FM> means of what they call "the backbone" need to be listed in the master FM> list of all the echo conferences, the Echolist. The listings need to FM> be renewed every six months, so the backbone can see that the echos are FM> still alive and that someone is looking after them. FM> I have the password for the listing, and I'll send in the renewal this FM> weekend when it won't cost so much to call (the current echolist keeper FM> is in Canada). So not to worry, everything is under control. Hi Jan; What a relief! Have enjoyed so many conversations with my fellow mystery lovers and it's a great source for recommended reading. Ironically, I had almost stopped reading mysteries and had only gotten back to them when I found this echo. Thanks for posting this good news. Dorothy FM> -!- Opus-CBCS 1.73a FM> ! Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA FM> (1:161/84.0) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2E00001 Date: 02/09/97 From: DOROTHY REYNOLDS Time: 05:14pm \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Short mysteries -=> Quoting Fn:jan Wertz@1:123/17.0 to Fred Runk <=- FW> Oh! On short mysteries, I forgot all about "Rumpole of the Bailey!!" FW> One book of those was enough for me. I enjoyed them well enough, but FW> after that book, I had just had my fill. Rather like having eaten a FW> satisfying meal, I was content. Happy with what I had had, and not FW> really needing seconds. The Rumpole stories have that famous FW> tongue-in-cheek British satirical wit. I thoroughly enjoyed the volume FW> I read, and passed it along to a friend. And, they are short. Hi Jan and Fred; Dorothy Reynolds here. If you like short mysteries, there is an Ellery Queen magazine still kicking around and full of good short stories. Someone donates theirs to our private library and they're always popular with the residents. Might try it, if you're an Ellery Queen fan. Dorothy FW> -!- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0Z1 FW> ! Origin: Mr Zip "Home of Aunt Gabby Echo" (1:123/17) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- DBSMail V2.00g [F633BFFC] * Origin: tnl-online.com -=- san diego, ca -=- (1:202/711) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2E00002 Date: 02/09/97 From: FRED RUNK Time: 07:55am \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Books -=>While in the White Hart, Dorothy Reynolds explained to Fred Runk that<=- DR> Work does have a way of interfering with pleasure, doesn't it, but DR> I'm glad to see you're still teaching. FR> So are my creditors and the mortgage company. DR> DR> Work is the curse of the drinking class. (g) And the curse of the reading class. DR> Loved the Hobbit series. DR> What a mind Tolkien had! FR> Yep, one of a kind. I'm starting THE LORD OF THE RINGS now. DR> DR> Let me know if you like it. This is as least my tenth time through, so I guess I could say that I like it. The WOMAN IN WHITE is proceeding slowly and thoughtfully. Really getting involved in that 19th century milieu--that of the middle classes so common to the English 19th century novel, and I guess of most European 19th century novels, although there are exceptions of course. There's a hint of madness here--perhaps unknown parentage and therefore an inheritance at stake, an upcoming loveless and unhappy (we know it will be--couldn't be any other way) marriage, star-crossed lovers, class differences, poverty, wasted inheritances---ah for the simple, uncomplicated life of the 19th century. ... One family builds a wall...two families enjoy it. Old Chinese Proverb ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2E00003 Date: 02/09/97 From: FRED RUNK Time: 08:11am \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Books -=>While in the White Hart, Dorothy Reynolds explained to Fred Runk that<=- DR> Work is the curse of the drinking class. (g) And the curse of the reading class! re THE LORD OF THE RINGS now. DR> Let me know if you like it. As this is at least my tenth time through the book, I guess you could say I like it. Collins' THE WOMAN IN WHITE is proceeding slowly and thoughtfully. I'm getting involved in the 19th century milleau once again--great time for novels. There's a hint of madness here, and perhaps unknown parentage, therefore a sizeable inheritance possibly at stake, an upcoming loveless and unhappy (we know it will be--it can't be any other way) marriage, star-crossed lovers, class differences, looming poverty perhaps, crafty lawyers...ah, just love that simple, uncomplicated 19th century. Finished: Gardner Dozois, ed. THE YEAR'S BEST SCIENCE FICTION, VOL. 13. CR: Wilkie Collins, THE WOMAN IN WHITE, 132/564 CR: JRR Tolkien, _The Fellowship of the Ring_ 0/423 Email: fred.runk@mbhbbs.playcom.com ... Ceremonial whimpering placates the gods. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00000 Date: 02/09/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 09:42am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Woman in White -[ Quoting Fred Runk <02-07-97 23:29>, to Jan Wertz ]- FR> Who's writing good short mysteries recently? Any recommendations? FR> Last year I read a collection of shorts by Colin Dexter, some of which FR> involved Chief Inspector Morse, a favorite of mine. I thought they FR> were rather poor. My overall reaction was that Dexter should stick to FR> novels. I just finished Sara Paretsky's "Windy City Blues;" must say I really quite liked her short stories ... enjoyed them more than her last 2 novels, at any rate. However, they were written over a period of 13 years - so novels are likely to remain her norm. I was always a little disappointed that Dorothy L. Sayers never wrote more - (much more) - about her Mr. Egg character and his brief, brilliant exploits. Not new, I know, though quality never fails to satisfy. :) -< Dennis >- ... Medicine: The nation's number one killer. -National Lampoon -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00001 Date: 02/09/97 From: DENNIS MENARD Time: 09:43am \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Books -[ Quoting Dorothy Reynolds <02-07-97 12:16>, to Dennis Lucey ]- DR> most exciting books I've read in quite awhile. Don't know why DR> Hollywood has to take a perfectly great book and ruin it. DR> One of the reasons I seldom watch a "made from" movie. Think I think the movie version of "The Firm" (by Grisham) stood up well against the book (unlike the other Grisham titles put on film); and, I enjoyed both even though the movie ending was completely! different. The movie version of "Firefox" (by C.Thomas) was also very well done in relation to the book. So too "The Joy Luck Club" (by Tan) ... though abbreviated. How about "The Man Who Would be King" from Kipling's short story, and "The Old Man and the Sea" from Hemingway. Effective! migrations from one medium to another may be rare but they are out there. Short stories seem to work best due to the limited time film has to tell the tale. The movie-going experience's as completely different from the experience of reading a book as reading about Art is from visiting an art gallery. That's why many movies are "BASED on the novel by ..." - because, only a select few of the story CAN be portrayed within a 2 or 3 hour window. This is not ruining a perfectly good book (imho), but simply trying to present a good visual story within the limitations of the medium. And, the same thing applies to books based on the movie, or the TV series. While the movie (or series) may have been good "AS a movie or a series" the books are rarely (if ever) readable "AS books." The problem reduces to going to a movie with the intent of re-experiencing the book instead of "watching the movie on its own merits" and enjoying the movie for what the medium of film does best. Often, I've found, people who watch the movie version of a story first, find the book disappointing. At least in my opinion and experience. Go figure. :) -< Dennis >- ... Evolution: Life's a niche, and then you die. -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#0185) * Origin: * Pacific Salt BBS * Whitehorse, YT * Canada * (1:3409/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00002 Date: 02/09/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:32pm \/To: DENNIS LUCEY (Read 3 times) Subj: Books -=> Quoting Dennis Lucey to dorothy reynolds <=- DL> Hello Dorothy and Suzze - Just letting you know that Absolute Power DL> comes to theaters Feb. 14th with Clint Eastwood as the thief and Gene DL> Hackman as the President.... That is one of the reasons I read the book this week. I am one of those people that HAS to read the book before I see the movie. I don't mind knowing what is going to happen in a movie but I hate knowing what is going to happen in a book, so if I don't read the book before I see the movie I never read the book at all. Loved the book, hope the movie is anywhere near as good! ... Be kind to animals - hug Dennis --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00003 Date: 02/10/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:24pm \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Absolute Power -=> Quoting dorothy reynolds to DENNIS LUCEY <=- dr> Thanks for the info. Let me know if you go see Absolute Power and dr> what you think of it. I plan on going to see it on Feb. 20th. (I go every Thursday morning). I am hoping it is GREAT! ... I will gladly pay you Tuesday...for a tagline today! --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: E2F00004 Date: 02/10/97 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 01:26pm \/To: JAN WERTZ (Read 3 times) Subj: Short Mysteries -=> Quoting JAN WERTZ to FRED RUNK <=- JW> ones, and 2 rather so-so. If you like Westerns, Louis Lamor had a JW> good bunch in his Chick Bowdrie books. They concern a Texas Ranger JW> back in the days of the old West. Actually, although Louis Lamor is JW> known for his novels, I think he did better with short stories. Not a western, but I am in the middle of reading L'Amour's series THE SACKETS. I am reading it slowly, fitting one in once in awhile amongst the mysteries. Finished reading the new Cat Who... book last night. It was funny. There is a "thread" in it about cat names that is hilarious. The cat Who books are a great mindless read. ... Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278)