--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGI00000 Date: 12/13/96 From: HELEN FLEISCHER Time: 09:23am \/To: SHARON SKELLY (Read 7 times) Subj: Muller list re: The Shape of Dread SS> I'm reading it right now. It's pretty good, IMHO. Both the Mullers I've read have been good. HF>Started a vintage Emma Lathen last night, from 1966! SS> Haven't read her yet. Is she a cozy? Doesn't really matter SS> but I'd like to know more about her work. Sort of cozy, yes. There are good, well-rounded characters in all I've read, and usually a little humor. They are generally centered around John Putnam Thatcher, the vice president of Sloan Guaranty Trust in NY. The one I'm reading now, Death Shall Overcome, is set around the application of the first black man to a seat on the stock exchange. For all that, there is never enough banking/financial/economic crap to annoy anyone. Most often the setting moves elsewhere than NY, and revolves around clients of the bank's trust department in one field or another. The one about the family with the oriental rug business was fascinating. The one about the hockey team bored me a bit, since I had no interest in hockey. The one about the dog show in CT was a fast-paced romp. ... A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds. * Q-Blue 1.0 * Helen "Halla" Fleischer, Fantasy and Fiber Artist --- InterEcho 1.19 * Origin: * MetroNet * Baltimore, Maryland, USA (1:261/1137) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00000 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:15am \/To: HELEN FLEISCHER (Read 3 times) Subj: Books -=>While in the White Hart, Helen Fleischer explained to Fred Runk that<=- HF> Just a few times. It had far too much traffic to keep up with. Hmm, you might want to try again. The FidoSF is now down to about 50 or 60 messages a day on good days. It also is suffering the effects of the Net. I was on the Inet SF conference for awhile, but that was running 300 a day and all addressed to ALL. What a mess. HF> read a Lydia Adamson and started a William DeAndrea, The Hog Murders. HF> The Hog Murders is a bit gruesome in places, but well written so far. The title would turn me off, frankly. Not something I would want to read while eating bacon and eggs or sausage and eggs. FINISHED: Tor Double: Dean Ing's "Silent Thunder" and RAH's 'Universe" CR: Gardner Dozois, ed. THE YEAR'S BEST SCIENCE FICTION, VOL. 13. 146/586 CR: Gregory Benford, SAILING BRIGHT ETERNITY, 270/438 Email: fred.runk@mbhbbs.playcom.com ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00001 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:18am \/To: MAUREEN GOLDMAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Wilkie Collins -=>While in the White Hart, Maureen Goldman explained to Fred Runk that<=- re Wilkie Collins' THE WOMAN IN WHITE MG> I've had a different one of Collins' books for years. Will MG> probably never read it. Right now I'm reading a mystery by Another of his more popular works is THE MOONSTONE. Could that be the one? Why do you think you will never read it? MG> Robert Barnard writing as Bernard Bastable. The detective is MG> the 65-year-old Mozart, whose life went in a different direction MG> when he was a a child so that he ended up being raised in MG> England. It's kind of fun. Sort of an alternative universe tale? ... You can lead people to knowledge, but you cannot make them think. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00002 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:21am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Travis Mcgee -=>While in the White Hart, Dennis Menard explained to Fred Runk that<=- DM> Yes McGee is Florida based; Harper DM> (and Marlowe ) are California. I'd recommend all DM> three without reservation. I've noticed, too, that I made an error in DM> my original message to you when I referred to "Philip Marlowe's style DM> of writing." Actually, it was Raymond Chandler who wrote about his DM> creation, Philip Marlowe. Apologies. :) Hey, nobody picked it up. No problem. I would probably have figured it out once I began perusing the shelves. FR> How about Newman's eyes--aren't those blue? DM> :) True; although it takes more than "just" blue eyes to be a Travis DM> McGee. Young Newman didn't look either world-weary or fighter enough DM> ... and he was rather white and string-beaned, as well; but an older DM> Newman, was an "older" Newman. Let's face it, McGee was not only DM> intelligent, he was "tough!" :-) Ok--I haven't read any McGee tales lately, so I really can't suggest someone who would make a good McGee--perhaps an unknown would be best? FR> Just out of curiosity, many years ago I read a story serialized in the FR> SAT EVE POST, I think, that had something to do with spies and a FR> nuclear device on a boat. I've always connected that with McGee for FR> some reason. Are you familiar with anything even remotely similar to FR> that? DM> Hmm, well, the association of a "nuclear device" with T.McGee does not DM> ring any bells ... but you may want to check out "The Green Ripper" (a DM> sequel to "The Empty Copper Sea" which does have some Government DM> involvement, terror- ists, an organization called the "Weather DM> Underground," a so-called Church, and some rockets. Year published, DM> 1979; "The Empty Copper Sea" was 1978. Sounds interesting, but the one I'm thinking of would be in the 50s or 60s. Perhaps it might have been John McDonald, but not a McGee tale. It just may have been advertised as "by the author" of the McGee stories, which is what I'm misremembering after all these years. I should get off my duff and take a look at some of the John McDonald pbs I have--there might be a list of other works in there. Didn't help, too many listed, and none seems familiar. Oh well. DM> ... Much attention is given the early bird; little given the worm. Ain't it the truth. The spear-carriers never get any billing at all. ... Are YOU the Solipsist who started all this? ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00003 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:33am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Stuff -=>While in the White Hart, Dennis Menard explained to Fred Runk that<=- DM> mention) were in 1967 and 1984, respectively. "Hondo" was actually a DM> John Wayne movie from 1953. :) FR> Hmmm, do you think I'll get any other messages informing me that HONDO FR> was a John Wayne flick? DM> :) Probably not. It was a great teaser though ... just to keep us DM> all on our toes. :) Yes, great "idea" of mine. Really worked well. After all, who could confuse Newman and Wayne, right? ... Do not tear down the east wall to repair the west. Old Chinese Proverb ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00004 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:35am \/To: DENNIS MENARD (Read 3 times) Subj: Collins -=>While in the White Hart, Dennis Menard explained to Fred Runk that<=- DM> Interesting you should mention Wilkie Collins', "The Woman in White." DM> I've got it sitting right here on the edge of my desk, scheduled to DM> start reading it tomorrow once I've completed the third novel in Anne DM> Rice's "The Mayfair Witches" series. I read Collins', "The Moonstone," DM> just a bit over 2 months ago and enjoyed it considerably. Ah, well then, I should be starting myself in about a week. It's the end of semester frenzy right now, and I'm getting little of my own reading done. DM> As to "The Lord of the Rings": back in late 1971 an English girl DM> recommended "The Hobbit" and the "trilogy" to me during a 3-month DM> wander through Morocco and it hooked me well. It was the first fantasy DM> I'd ever read and it was a marvellous experience which I recall with DM> great nostalgia. For the next six years, I read it once a year ... DM> like embarking on a journey. If it is your first time reading this DM> story, I envy you! Enjoy. Say "Hi," to Tom Bomba- dil for me. :) No, I've lost track of the number of times, but it's at least over ten readings for me since my first encounter with it back in 1966. I've started doing it annually also, during the xmas holidays the past 4 or 5 years. DM> ... He who dies with the most toys is still dead. True, but such a fine burial mound he will have, delighting muchly future anthropologists. ... A whale in shallow water amuses the shrimp. Old Chinese Proverb ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00005 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 09:40am \/To: STEVEN HORN (Read 3 times) Subj: Travis Mcgee -=>While in the White Hart, Steven Horn explained to Fred Runk that<=- SH> Incidentally, Ross MacDonald is a pen-name for Kenneth Millar. His SH> wife, Marbaret Millar, has also written mystery novels an since SH> she began first, her husband felt he had to use a different SH> name. Thanks for the info. I never noticed her works. Is she still in print? ... "I have often regretted my speech, never my silence." -Publilius Syrus ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGK00006 Date: 12/15/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 10:04am \/To: JOHN DECHANCIE (Read 3 times) Subj: Travis Mcgee -=>While in the White Hart, John Dechancie explained to Fred Runk that<=- JD>> And "The Hustler." And don't forget "The Hsting," and "Hbutch JD>> Hcassidy and the Hsundance Hkid." FR> Ah, THE HUSTLER--one that I had forgotten--a favorite of mine. HButch I FR> remember also, but "Hsting"? Are you confusing that with "The Hong HHot FR> Hummer"? JD> Maybe so. I get that movie confused with "Hcat Hon Ha Hot Htin JD> Hroof." Hookay. JD> Seriously, though -- someone responded to you about a Travis McGee JD> movie starring Sam Elliot in 1983. Did they give the title? I take it JD> this flick sank pretty quick. Never heard mention of it before. (I JD> can't even put a face on the name Sam Elliot. What else did he do?) Dennis Menard was the one. He said that the name of the movie was TRAVIS MCGEE, which was based on EMPTY COPPER SEA and came out in 1983. He also said something about several of the movies, so there may have been more than one. Bob Donahue also commented that he liked Sam Elliot as Travis. Can't think of anything Elliot has been in--wait. I think he might have been the cop in a movie titled the "Calendar Murders" or something like that. Premise was that somebody was killing off the women who posing for a Playboy style calendar. It shows up now and then after midnight. ... The goal is not some final summit, but the ascent. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGL00000 Date: 12/16/96 From: MAUREEN GOLDMAN Time: 09:10am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Wilkie Collins On (15 Dec 96) Fred Runk wrote to Maureen Goldman... FR> re Wilkie Collins' THE WOMAN IN WHITE MG> I've had a different one of Collins' books for years. Will MG> probably never read it. Right now I'm reading a mystery by FR> Another of his more popular works is THE MOONSTONE. Could that be the FR> one? Why do you think you will never read it? Yep, that's it. I have a couple hundred books that I probably won't ever touch. They just keep accumulating. That one has no priority. I'm also not sure that I'll ever eat all the stuff in the freezer. Someday I should simply stop buying food (and books) and see what I actually have in the house. MG> Robert Barnard writing as Bernard Bastable. The detective is MG> the 65-year-old Mozart, whose life went in a different direction MG> when he was a a child so that he ended up being raised in MG> England. It's kind of fun. FR> Sort of an alternative universe tale? It isn't a fantasy other than that one detail. Or at least not any other deviations that I've gleaned with my limited historical knowledge. So I guess that the answer is yes, but not in any obtrusive way. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Point of No Deposit, No Return (1:153/404.11) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DGL00001 Date: 12/16/96 From: MAUREEN GOLDMAN Time: 09:13am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Collins On (15 Dec 96) Fred Runk wrote to Dennis Menard... DM> ... He who dies with the most toys is still dead. FR> True, but such a fine burial mound he will have, delighting muchly FR> future anthropologists. ROTFL!! ... In the morning, In the evening, Ain't we got fun... --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Point of No Deposit, No Return (1:153/404.11)