--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00003 Date: 09/11/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 02:31pm \/To: JIM MAGILL (Read 3 times) Subj: mysterious -=>While in the White Hart, Jim Magill explained to Fred Runk that<=- JM> You're right. Not mysteries, but mysterious. I got the two mixed JM> up. I consdidered them sci-fi because there were scientists involved JM> and unusual creatures on another planet. Mysterious--yes, I could go along with that, and I would definitely agree that they are SF. They also show up frequently as a topic of discussion in various SF conferences. So, others think the same also. Email: fred.runk@mbhbbs.playcom.com ... Everything comes to those who wait, if they wait long enough. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00004 Date: 09/11/96 From: MAUREEN GOLDMAN Time: 08:47am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Mystery newsletters Does anyone know where Cate used to get those mystery reviews that she would post periodically? I thought that this was a free newsletter to which one could subscribe on the Internet. If so, I can't seem to find it. ... The hills are alive... and they're hungry. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Point of No Deposit, No Return (1:153/404.11) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00005 Date: 09/12/96 From: DENNIS MCCUNNEY Time: 02:40am \/To: JIM MAGILL (Read 3 times) Subj: TV Mysteries ** From Jim Magill to All on 23 Aug 96 12:49:00 ** TV Mysteries JM> Greetings to all; speading of mysteries, the best mysteries on TV JM> and the best detectives appear on the Arts and Entertainment network JM> and are, naturally., English productions. Anyone agree, or you all only JM> readers and not viewers?? More a reader than a viewer, but overall, I agree. We don't get many really good mysteries made here. Cop shows, yes, but not mysteries. JM> A nice combination of mystery and sci-fi are the C. S. Lewis JM> novels such as "Out of the Silent Planet" and "Perelandra." You can't JM> skim amd have to pay attention, but it's worth it. Don't forget the third in that series, _That Hideous Strength_. Lewis is wonderful, though I never thought of that series as mysteries. It struck me more as religious allegory in SF terms. For another delight by Lewis, see _The Screwtape Letters_, a collection of letters of advice from a senior demon in Hell to a junior tempter struggling to make the grade. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00006 Date: 09/11/96 From: DENNIS MCCUNNEY Time: 04:47pm \/To: ROBERT WHITE (Read 3 times) Subj: Hiaasen vs Disney ** From Robert White to Sharon Skelly on 05 Sep 96 08:45:13 ** Hiaasen vs Disney >like the way Hiaasen takes the same lunacy and stretches it to the absurd. SS> So do I. He leaves me ROTFLMAO every time. I do like Buchanan SS> as well, however. I read somewhere that Disney sued Hiaasen after SS> _Native Tongue_. Never heard how it came out, however. RW> Sounds like the kind of petty thing that Disney would do. I'm sure old RW> Walt is spinning a record speed in his grave. I heard that Hiaasen was RW> being sued by the bass fishing association because of his book that RW> sideswiped the 'sport' of professional bass fishing, I think the book RW> was called 'Double Wammy'. RW> Disney & the Pro bass fishermen must be pretty insecure about RW> themselves if they have to sue a relatively unknown to the mass RW> audience writer like Hiaasen. Not insecure, exactly -- just fiercely protective of their intellectual property. I heard a story once from a writer who was (very) briefly a story editor at Disney. Soon after being hired, he and some like- minded souls were having lunch in the cafeteria. For amusement, they were casting a porno film featuring the Disney characters: Mickey as director, Goofy as cameraman, Minnie as female lead... Unknown to them, a set of very senior Disney execs was sitting at the next table. When they got back from lunch, they discovered their cubicles no longer existed, and pink slips were waiting for them at the department secretary's desk. On a related note, the late cartoonist Wally Wood (who worked for Disney at one point) once did a hilarious poster called _The Disneyland Memorial Orgy_. It featured all the Disney characters in uncharacteristic behavior: Mickey shooting up heroin, Minnie as a whore, Donald being shat upon by Dumbo passing over head, Tinkerbelle doing a strip tease for Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, etc. A store in Philadelphia got busted for obscenity for selling it. It came before a jury, but the poster was considered too obscene for the jury to actually see it for themselves, so the Prosecuting Attorney had to read a list of the obscene and salacious activities taking place. Halfway through the list, he was laughing so hard the Defense Attorney had to finish reading it for him, whereupon the judge threw the case out of court. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00007 Date: 09/11/96 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 09:52pm \/To: MYRL PARDEE (Read 3 times) Subj: RE: LIVING FOREVER > At last, I find readers who read as I do, enjoying the plot, > the characters, and the occasional flaws that indicate the > author did NOT adequately research the background. I'm > sorry I missed the BART/Muni slip-up. As an out-of-towner, > (it's been 40+ years since I lived in the Bay Area), I usually > only ride BART. It would be interesting to know when the book was written. Let's not forget that the fares on both BART and MUNI have changed over the years, and while MUNI may be cheaper now, for a while BART's minimum fare was less than MUNI's. People might also take BART instead of MUNI because they had a BART ticket in their pocket but no money for MUNI. Or they just might like BART better. It's not a mistake of the kind where you can't get there that way, just one where the other service might be more likely. These days, at least during some parts of the year, you could avoid the whole problem of going underground by riding the historical trolley cars on Market Street itself. :-) --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDG00008 Date: 09/12/96 From: DAVID CHESSLER Time: 12:28am \/To: JAMES MCNEILL (Read 3 times) Subj: LIVING FOREVER On 10 Sep 96, 08:25pm, James Mcneill wrote to Myrl Pardee on the subject of "LIVING FOREVER": > Forgive me for intruding with my two cents worth. > I once read a novel, both author and title now forgotten, where the > hero carried "a Browning automatic." No problem. Somewhere around page > 50, our hero commenced to reload, and "swung the cylinder out..." > I didn't get to the end of the sentance before it hit me that a > Browning has no cylinder. The illusion that had been so carefully > built burst like a soap bubble. I tried to keep going, but disbelief > set in too deep. In one novel, Ariadne Oliver, Agatha Christie's "detective" who is most clearly her alter ego, mentions the fussiness of readers who write in to complain that a revolver in one chapter has become an automatic in another, and the difficulty of the poor crime writer who has to remember what she wrote and know the difference. > A few chapters later, I tossed it in the trash. Too bad. Other > than that one mistake, it might have been a decent book. Christie's expertise was toxocology. We tend to forget it, but Ian Fleming made several howlers about James Bond's gun in the first few novels. > * OLX 2.2 * james.mcneill@privy.com > (1:311/5.0) -- ___ __ david.chessler@mix.cpcug.org david.chessler@neteast.com d_)--/d chessler@capaccess.org chessler@trinitydc.edu ... E-mail: ->132 1:109/1111 david.chessler@mix.cpcug.org * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 1 * Silver Xpress V4.3 --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/100 Beta * Origin: (1:109/459) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDH00000 Date: 09/12/96 From: HELEN FLEISCHER Time: 02:43pm \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 3 times) Subj: Living Forever JM> My husband pointed out another Really Obvious Reason -- BART used to JM> have a cheaper minimum fare than MUNI (85 cents for BART vs a dollar JM> for MUNI). There are people who would cheerfully take the longer JM> trip down the escalator to BART and wait longer for a train just to JM> save fifteen cents. Aha. I think that could be it, since it was a 2 stop ride down Market from Montgomery to Civic Center. When we were there for a convention, the BART minimum fare had recently gone up. I remember it being cheaper to use MUNI, even for short runs, before we bought passes that made it even cheaper. The book is just old enough that that could have been different, then. JM> On the other hand, I suspect that the real reason is just that the JM> author was more familiar with BART than Muni Metro, and put in the JM> BART ride because that's what she knew. Or the publishers figured the rest of the country had a better chance of having heard of BART, even though there was an explanation of what the BART is in that same passage. Oh well, that was 2 books ago. ;) I've read a Sara Shankman since then and started a vintage Barbara Michaels last night. I'm having doubts about its suitability for bedtime reading, already. ;) ... Confection is good for the soul. * Q-Blue 1.0 * Helen Fleischer is helen@mbbs.com in Fairland, MD --- GEcho/2-PCB/2 * Origin: * MetroNet * Columbia, MD * (410) 720-5506 * (1:261/1137) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDH00001 Date: 08/31/96 From: REBEKAH DICKERSON Time: 11:20am \/To: SHELLEY GINGRICH (Read 3 times) Subj: GOOD AUTHOR Thanks for the suggestions,that should be enough to keep me busy for a while! P.S.-I was never sane to begin with!!! Bec --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0450 * Origin: THE FAMILY SMORGASBOARD Pleasant Grove, Alabama (1:3602/77) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDH00002 Date: 08/31/96 From: REBEKAH DICKERSON Time: 11:25am \/To: RUSS JERNIGAN (Read 3 times) Subj: GOOD AUTHOR Thanks I'll look for it next time i'm at the bookstore. Bec --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0450 * Origin: THE FAMILY SMORGASBOARD Pleasant Grove, Alabama (1:3602/77) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DDH00003 Date: 08/31/96 From: REBEKAH DICKERSON Time: 11:26am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: GOOD AUTHOR I'm a good swimmer and a fast reader,but I think you were right!Thanks for the list. Bec --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0450 * Origin: THE FAMILY SMORGASBOARD Pleasant Grove, Alabama (1:3602/77)