--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00001 Date: 07/03/96 From: DELORES E ROWE Time: 10:08am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: This and that.... Fred Runk was talking to der about this and that.... FR> FR>My two summer courses that just finished today (still FR> FR>have to grade finals) FR> FR>consisted mostly of high school students--jrs. and snrs. No comment. FR> DER> Your silence is deafening! :) FR>Yes, and you will need to keep the ear plugs in for a bit longer. 'Nuf said!! FR> FR>Didn't work for me. Very weak stuff overall. A real disappointment. H FR> FR>you read it? FR> DER> No,I haven't and I heard somewhere else that it got poor FR> DER> reviews. The publishers must have been pushing too hard! :) FR>I hadn't heard about the reviews as I found an British pb, published by an FR>Books. I was excited as I hadn't known there were a short "Morse" books. FR>My excitement, unfortunately, dwindled as I read through the book. Did you happen to notice when they were furst published? Were they early works, per chance? I just started The Edge of Sleep by David Wiltse. I have never read any of his, but the blurb looked interesting. However, I have been fooled before!! We shall see. :) * SLMR 2.1a * Don't peel the green M & M's. They're not ripe yet. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #189 * Origin: TMK BBS - 509.886.7607 - mystique@nwinternet.com (1:344/115.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00002 Date: 07/03/96 From: DELORES E ROWE Time: 10:23am \/To: DENNIS MCCUNNEY (Read 3 times) Subj: Spy stuff..... Dennis McCunney was adding to a conversation about spy novels... DM> FR> FR>Err...You seem to have forgotten James Bond! DM> FR> DER> Sorry...IMO, James Bond is kiddie fare to anything that LeCarre DM> FR> DER> writes! DM> FR>Yeah, closer to comic book hero stuff, actually. DM> No, merely the first of the genre. LeCarre has more depth than DM> Fleming, but there are *much* worse examples of the spy novel than DM> Fleming's work. (Incidentally, someone is doing a Bond revival, DM> offering reproductions of the British First Editions of all the Bond DM> novels.) You are correct about the possibility that Fleming is not the worst, however, I will not be standing in line for the reproductions! :) IMO, Le Carre is the best, and Tom Clancy was very good in his earlier works. As I was telling Fred, Le Carre was somewhat disappointing in his last couple of efforts. Rats, seems the end of the cold war dried up a source for good reading! (VBEG) DM> FR>That's what spell checkers are for. >g< DM> I really wonder what's going to happen to future generations that DM> DER> cannot add or subtract without a calculator or spell without a spell DM> DER> checker. A major power outage and they are brain dead! DM> Isaac Asimov did an SF story along those lines. The premise what DM> that computers handled all calculations, and had for so long that no DM> one knew how to do them manually any longer. The story revolves DM> around a future conflict in which one side discovers a secret weapon: DM> a computer repairman who has been studying the machines as a hobby, and DM> has "reverse engineered" what the computers must be doing, DM> re-discovering some of the basic principles of mathematics in the DM> process. Interesting premise! There are times when I have been very frustrated when my own machine has seemingly taken a life of it's own and no longer responds to logic!! ;> As computers become more sophisticated, one has to wonder how long it will be before they no longer have a need for human companionship!! :) DM> On a more practical level, a former co-worker who was an MBA DM> candidate once got excused from a finance exam because hiscalculator DM> died. There was good reason for it: he knew how to do the DM> calculations manually, but it would have taken far longer than the DM> test allowed to do so. My boss at the time marveled at the DM> financial modelling software we used to do analysis. He used to DM> do it on green ledger paper with pencil and HP calculator. It would DM> take him 5 hours to do a typical job. He'd take it to his boos, and DM> his boss would say "That's good, John. Now, what happens id the DM> prime interest rate changes by one percent upwards?" and John DM> would go back to his office for another 5 hours. With thecomputer, DM> the same job took 5 minutes, once the analysis desired had been DM> programmed. LOL! However, I wonder who had the greater feeling of accomplishment. John or the computer? :) * SLMR 2.1a * Practice safe eating....use condiments. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #189 * Origin: TMK BBS - 509.886.7607 - mystique@nwinternet.com (1:344/115.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00003 Date: 07/02/96 From: BERT QUILLIN Time: 11:01am \/To: HELEN FLEISCHER (Read 3 times) Subj: Arthur Upfield -=> Quoting Helen Fleischer to Bert Quillin <=- HF> One of my favorite authors! Holler if you want a list in HF> chronological order, not that it really matters when reading them. That would be especially nice Helen. I already have a home for a few copies besides one for myself. Sunday my wife and I were with one of our sons and some friends who live down the valley. Developed that two of them are loyal (means hooked) followers of Arthur Upfield. One asked me for a list of his books and I am sending her a copy of what is have available in the libraries here in Tigard as well as in Portland. But it doesn't nearly represent his entire works. HF> if your library has either _A Royal Abduction_ or _The Beach HF> of Atonement_, I will be VERY jealous. Those are the only two I HF> haven't found. They don't, only 4 of his works locally. However, the Multnomah County Libraries have 22 different stories in there stacks, so I will slowly obtain them through a reciprocity agreement our system has with theirs. Makes it real nice for those who love to read. Thanks for the offer of the list. Will be waiting for it, but do it at your leisure. Regards, Bert ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: COM-DAT BBS (1:105/314.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00004 Date: 07/02/96 From: BERT QUILLIN Time: 11:15am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Arthur Upfield -=> Quoting Fred Runk to Bert Quillin <=- BQ> Hi Fred: BQ> After reading your original message a couple of weeks ago, I picked up BQ> the only Upfield book our local library had available just to "try" FR> Howdy Bert: FR> Glad you enjoyed Upfield, although I don't think I wrote the original FR> Have you read any of the Hillerman mysteries, with the Navajo police FR> officers? Everything he has written. He is another real favorite. It surprises me how many people I have talked to that don't care for him. Seems to have something to do with the detail he provides relative to the Navajos and the country involved in his stories. Shucks, that is a good portion of the very interesting information he provides. Some people get bored when the frequency of quotation marks slow down. That's not real reading. Regards, Bert ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: COM-DAT BBS (1:105/314.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00005 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 07:22am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Mysteries -=> Quoting Fred Runk to Dorothy Reynolds <=- FR> Hmmm, just realized a trend has begun. Engel's book features Benny FR> Cooperman, a Jewish PI while Gur's book features Michael Ohayon, Supt. FR> of Criminal Investigations in Jerusalem. If you decide to expand on that trend, you could look for some of Faye Kellerman's books... Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00006 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 07:46am \/To: RUSS JERNIGAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Holmes 's addiction -=> Quoting Russ Jernigan to Patricia Ferrara <=- RJ> I thought that it was a seven percent solution of cocaine? Judging by all the responses on this issue, I'd say you must be right. I remember a high school English teacher making some reference to Holmes and opium dens. In another post I read today, someone included a quote from Doyle. In it Watson, upon seeing Holmes leaving an opium den, is reassured by Holmes that it was merely a visit... and that Holmes will not be adding it to his vices. Of course, if he visits them often, he might be getting high on the second hand smoke... but that's beside the point. :) Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00007 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 08:03am \/To: DELORES E ROWE (Read 3 times) Subj: Criteria for a Mystery -=> Quoting Delores E Rowe to Patricia Ferrara <=- DER> hehehe! The times I have done that! I just read an "interesting" DER> little book. It was called The Train Home by Susan Richards Shreve. DER> It was in the Library Cat. as a Mystery, however, it really wasn't a DER> true mystery...other than the mysteries and vagueries of life. One DER> critic likened it to The Bridges of Madison County. Although it was DER> very different from most of my reading material, I did enjoy it. A DER> quick read, too, only 230 pages. I've been wondering lately, what constitutes a true mystery? Most fiction has to have some element of mystery about it or you wouldn't be drawn into the story enough to follow through to the end, would you? I suppose it has to include a dastardly deed, murder being one of the ultimates. Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00008 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 08:12am \/To: JAN MURPHY (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: McCrumb and other cross-over writers08:12:1307/04/96 -=> Quoting Jan Murphy to Helen Fleischer <=- JM> Ideally, we'd like the fans of writer X to be able to find these books JM> and buy them if they tickle their fancy. If they don't know that JM> writer X has written in other categories, they won't go looking in the JM> other section. If we put up signs (shelf-talkers, as they are called JM> in the trade) directing readers to the other sections, we will have so JM> many shelf-talkers, they'll just become a big blur and customers won't JM> read them. JM> So what's a bookseller to do? Perhaps, instead of a shelf-talker, you could put up a catchy poster in each section. Something that raises the question, "Does your favorite author write in a genre other than ________?" The poster would explain that a list of authors that cross-over into other genres is available to them, and would direct them to said list. That way, those who are interested in the author would be advised of the availability. Those who are only interested in reading only a specific genre aren't mislead by having books outside that genre mixed on the shelves. Just an idea. Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00009 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 08:24am \/To: DENNIS MCCUNNEY (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Holmes 's addiction -=> Quoting Dennis Mccunney to Patricia Ferrara <=- PF> It was my understanding that he smoked opium. DM> DM> Nope. He shot cocaine. Yep. It appears you're right. Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DBA00010 Date: 07/04/96 From: PATRICIA FERRARA Time: 08:26am \/To: SALLY SPRINGETT & MAUREEN GOLDMAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Test -=> Quoting SALLY SPRINGETT to MAUREEN GOLDMAN <=- MG> Next time, just post a message with a Great Big Mistake. You MG> will get many responses. SS> Cynic. Yes, but... she's a WISE cynic, nevertheless! Patsy --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1)