--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAL00003 Date: 06/16/96 From: SALLY SPRINGETT Time: 06:32pm \/To: CATE VANICEK (Read 3 times) Subj: Kate Ross I have just discovered Kate Ross. Her books take place in England in 1824 or thereabouts and are delightful mysteries with well-crafted characters and plots. Her hero moves in the best circles though he is the son of a well-born man who was cut off by his family because he married an actress. His manservant is a former thief so we are permitted to see all degrees of society. Ms Ross is an attorney in Boston. There are three books so far: Cut to the Quick, A Broken Vessel, and Whom the Gods Love. I read the last one first and immediately searched out the others. If you like this sort of thing at all you'll like them. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: (PC)^3 BBS : 716-723-8489 (1:2613/388) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAL00004 Date: 06/15/96 From: SUZZE TIERNAN Time: 03:42pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Test I'm still not sure if my mail is getting out, as I posted a message about it a week ago and have got no replies! Anyone hear me? 9!!!0---5Suzze0---9!!! --- * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAL00005 Date: 06/16/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 01:15pm \/To: STEVEN HORN (Read 3 times) Subj: Messaging and authors -=> While in the White Hart, Steven Horn insisted to Fred Runk that <=- SH> I wasn't in San Francisco but it's quite possible Ms. SH> McCrumb was there. My favourite work of hers is "She Walks Ooops. Sorry. I've been hanging around the Science Fiction Fido conference, and SF means Science Fiction, not San Francisco. I think she may have attended a science fiction conference on the East Coast prior to writing BIMBOS OF THE DEATH STAR, or whatever the title was. FR> Engel I don't know. What are his works like? SH> Howard Engel is Canadian and his character, Benny SH> Cooperman, is a Jewish private eye in a town in SH> Southwestern Ontario which is called Grantham but which I Sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip. SH> I'm out of here for a holiday so you need not respond. Well, perhaps this message will be still there when you get back. SH> By the way, I forgot to mention Colin (Inspector Morse) Dexter. Morse SH> I like! Now, how can one forget Inspector Morse? Such a kindly, gentle, sweet soul! ... Keeping your mouth shut means never having to say you're sorry. --- X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAL00006 Date: 06/16/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 01:18pm \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Mysteries -=> While in the White Hart, Dorothy Reynolds insisted to Fred Runk that <=- DR> If you like police procedurals, you will like McBain. Might give him a looksee also--along with some 50-100 others. DR> Arthur Conan Doyle comes to mind. I kind of like Ngaio Marsh too. DR> Have only read one of her books so far, but our library is full I've read many of Ngaio Marsh's mysteries--that was the problem. I found about 20 or more in a usedbook store that was getting rid of them cheaply. I read a bunch of them in a short period of time and consequently discovered one of the patterns she used. If I had read them spread out, one every few months, I probably would never have noticed it. I stopped reading her therefore. I will probably go back some time and read her works occasionally--but not a bunch at a time. DR> I've read several of Ellis Peter's tales. They are enjoyable. Been DR> quite some time since I've read him though. Will have to get back DR> to him one of these days. Well, they will be around for awhile--I doubt if they will go out of print any time soon. Besides, it's always nice to know there's something good waiting out there for when one has the time. DR> began and I find them fascinating. Those set in the times you've DR> mentioned are often more so, because the investigators didn't have DR> the modern methods we have today. Had to rely on their minds and DR> gut feelings to solve the crime. Right--there's more of a reliance on logic, rationality, and understanding of one's fellow humans in them. Also, there is some "technology," and Brother Cadfael's experience with wounds and trauma would make him an excellent coroner even today. DR> I wasn't aware Asimov wrote mysteries too, but doesn't Yes, in fact some consider one of Asimov's mysteries, CAVES OF STEEL, to be one of his best novels. It is one of my favorite Asimov works. DR> I haven't read Bayer, but have seen the Janek series on TV. While the TV versions lack some of the complexity and depth of the novels, as is frquently the problem when moving a story from book to film, the shows definitely capture the feel of the novels. In fact, I got interested in the novels because of the TV presentations. I didn't realize they were based on novels until a friend loaned me one of his. When I read the novels, I see Janek as Richard Crenna. ... All my anachronisms are out of date. --- X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAL00007 Date: 06/16/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 01:16pm \/To: DOROTHY REYNOLDS (Read 3 times) Subj: Various... -=> While in the White Hart, Dorothy Reynolds insisted to Fred Runk that <=- DR> Yeppers. I live in a Senior apartment building. We have a great DR> library. All the books are donated, mostly by the tenants, but Sounds very convenient, especially if one doesn't have a large personal collection, or if one gets pocketbook shock at the cost of new books today. DR> Me too. Can remember when I was a kid how many times I nearly DR> missed out on meals because I was so engrossed in a book didn't Mine called twice and then sent one of my brothers looking for me as she knew I was probably reading and therefore deaf. DR> I suppose teaching adults can be more difficult than teaching DR> children at times. Most kids are willing to learn and have more DR> open minds. Interesting. I have the opposite experience. I'm teaching a group of high school students now during the summer session: a First Step program. I would much rather teach adults as they are far more open and willing to engage in a dialogue. Most of the younger students seem to believe that learning consists sitting quietly and letting the teacher pour the accumulated wisdom of the ages into their heads. And, I have no idea of where I'm supposed to get this "wisdom of the ages." There are exceptions of course, but so far this is my general impression. DR> Adults sometimes think they know as much or more than the teacher. DR> At least I find this to be so in some of the adult classes I've I teach writing, intro psych, and literature classes. I prefer students who have ideas and bring them up--I think we all learn more that way. I like even those who do know more than me. DR> Yeah, that would make a good story. Maybe the perp is a pregnant DR> "Mouse" from someone's computer. Stole it to make a nest? DR> Naw! Love it. Works for me. DR> ... Perhaps imagination is only intelligence having fun. Very nice. I'm going to borrow it and revise it slightly, if you don't mind. ... Imagination is intelligence having fun. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAM00000 Date: 06/14/96 From: RAJIV JAMES Time: 10:05pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: stephen.r.lawhead To: FRED RUNK Subject: stephen.r.lawhead FRïI'm familiar with the name, although I've never read any of his works. A FRïgood place to ask would be the SF conference, which might be available FRïsomewhere in your neighborhood. I know I've seen others discussing FRïLawhead's works there. Thanx for the info. But I think Lawhead's workds are mostly mystic/medieval fiction. Won't it be off-topic in the ScienceFiction conference. Ŀ Live long and prosper... ...& may the force be with you ۲ R. AMS --- QMPro 1.53 Aren't you a little short for s stormtrooper?... * Origin: The Diplomat BBS : 971-2-659913 (5:7411/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAM00001 Date: 06/16/96 From: DELORES E ROWE Time: 07:58am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: read anything good lately Hi, Fred... How are you? Haven't spoken in a while! We are finally getting some fairly decent weather. High 70's and low 80's, but a little breezy. Seems like summer has been such a longtime in coming this year. If you like pears, expect to pay more for them this year! The crop is expected to be 40-50% less than average due to the prolonged winter, and late frosts. Some of the trees didn't even bloom!! I read two books this week. The first was PAX PACIFICA, by Steve Pieczenick. He co-authored OP CENTER with Tom Clancy. IMO, this book was terrible. The plot was extremely weak, and even then the author had a hard time keeping a grip on it! The characters were weak and as indecisive as Mr. Pieczenick seemsto be! I give it a thumbs down! :( The second was excellent! HEAT by Stuart Woods. The plot was good..very topical and believable. The characters were well developed, and the tension mounted through out the book. I enjoyed it very much, and intend adding some of his works to my "to read" list. My SIL loaned me a book today, FLOATERS by Joseph Wambaugh. I have liked so many of his books, but haven't seen anything new from him in a long time. I am hoping this new one lives up to his previous works. I order a bunch from the library last week, and they should be in tomorrow, so I should have plenty to entertain me for a while! What's your reading stack look like right now? *** SLMR 2.1a *Reality.Sys corrupted -- Reboot Universe (Y/N)? --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #189 * Origin: TMK BBS - 509.886.7607 - mystique@nwinternet.com (1:344/115.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAM00002 Date: 06/17/96 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 09:29pm \/To: SUZZE TIERNAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Test While tripping merrily through the mail, Suzze Tiernan was overheard ST> @MSGID: 1:2410/278 31c2d9f8 ST> I'm still not sure if my mail is getting out, as I posted a message ST> about it a week ago and have got no replies! ST> Anyone hear me? Coming in 5 x 5 in Beertown. Where ya been? We miss you over in Memories too. Don ... Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. --- * Origin: Anonymous BBS -=- Non plus Ultra -=- 414-251-2580 (1:154/40) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAM00003 Date: 06/17/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 07:27pm \/To: RICHARD KNOWLES (Read 3 times) Subj: Asimov and ??? -=> While in the White Hart, Richard Knowles insisted to Fred Runk that <=- RK> Roberts is now writing sword-and-sorcery mysteries. The RK> 1st one was a Forgotten Realms book and the 2nd is a RK> Dragonlance book. Wondered what had happened to him? Hadn't seen any new books by him lately. Around here, the "Forgotten Realms" and "Dragonlance" books are shelved either separately from other SF or lumped all together as a type, rather than by author. As I seldom if ever look at those types of works, I don't know who's writing them. RK> I enjoyed Robots and Empire where the link is made RK> explicitly. Not a mystery though. Definitely. Or, at least not a detective mystery tale anyway. ... A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAM00004 Date: 06/17/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 07:33pm \/To: DELORES E ROWE (Read 3 times) Subj: read anything good latel -=> While in the White Hart, Delores E Rowe insisted to Fred Runk that <=- DER> Hi, Fred... DER> DER> How are you? Haven't spoken in a while! Doing well. No serious problems anyway and nothing worth complaining about anyway. DER> We are finally getting some fairly decent weather. High 70's and low DER> 80's, but a little breezy. Seems like summer has been such a longtime DER> in coming this year. If you like pears, expect to pay more for them DER> this year! The crop is expected to be 40-50% less than average due to DER> the prolonged winter, and late frosts. Some of the trees didn't even DER> bloom!! Our weather has been a bit different. It's been in the triple digits now for many weeks. Had a cool spell a week or so ago when it reached only the low 90s. DER> I read two books this week. The first was PAX PACIFICA, by Steve DER> Pieczenick. He co-authored OP CENTER with Tom Clancy. IMO, this book DER> was terrible. The plot was extremely weak, and even then the author DER> had a hard time keeping a grip on it! The characters were weak and as DER> indecisive as Mr. Pieczenick seemsto be! I give it a thumbs down! :( I saw a small part of the TV show OP Center. Lost interest quickly and never went back to it. I have some friends who are devoted admirers of Clancy, and they were unhappy with it also. DER> The second was excellent! HEAT by Stuart Woods. The plot was DER> good..very topical and believable. The characters were well developed, DER> and the tension mounted through out the book. I enjoyed it very much, DER> and intend adding some of his works to my "to read" list. Don't know Woods or the work. DER> My SIL loaned me a book today, FLOATERS by Joseph Wambaugh. I have DER> liked so many of his books, but haven't seen anything new from him in DER> a long time. I am hoping this new one lives up to his previous works. SIL? sister-in-law? I haven't read anything by him, but a friend has read everything by him and fills me in. He was wondering what had happened to Wambaugh as he hadn't seen anything recent by him. Will let him know about FLOATERS. Thanks. DER> What's your reading stack look like right now? Total chaos!! Dexter's DAUGHTERS OF CAIN, Peters' BROTHER CADFAEL'S PENANCE, THE ALIENIST by Caleb Carr, Marth Grimes' RAINBOW'S END, DISCLOSURE by Michael Crichton, John Le Carre's THE RUSSIA HOUSE and THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD, plus numerous SF titles, general fiction, and non-fiction. I have a bad habit of buying more than I can read--or input far exceeds output. ... Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2)