--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAA00007 Date: 06/05/96 From: CATHERINE VANICEK Time: 04:14am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: FWD: Murder on the Internet (June) [6/6]04:14:3706/05/96 >>> Part 6 of 6... srandol@randomhouse.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like to automatically receive MURDER ON THE INTERNET each month, just send an email message asking to be added to the subscription list to srandol@randomhouse.com. You will receive the next issue as soon as it's available. MURDER ON THE INTERNET: Mystery News from the Ballantine Publishing Group is copyright 1996 by the Ballantine Publishing Group. MURDER ON THE INTERNET may be reproduced only in its entirety, and not for profit. -!- MailGate 0.25 ====================================================================== --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 * Origin: Bitter Butter Better BBS, Tualatin OR, 503-691-7938 (1:105/290) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAA00008 Date: 06/05/96 From: BOB DONAHUE Time: 09:06am \/To: CATHERINE VANICEK (Read 4 times) Subj: Where is everybody? On 06-01-96 03:46, Catherine Vanicek wrote a few lines To Dorothy Reynolds on the subject of Where is everybody?: CV> My regualr BBS, Bitter Butter Butter, Portland-Oregon area, is CV> going down permanently very soon. I don't know where I'll get a CV> replacement to carry MYSTERY. Although not precisely on topic in this echo I will mention that the Mystery echo is available on Com-Dat BBS. Internet: bobd@comm-dat.com - Netmail: 1:105/317 --- * Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: COM-DAT BBS (1:105/314.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAA00009 Date: 06/05/96 From: BELLE BIJOU Time: 10:42pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 4 times) Subj: Cornwell I'd like to say to , Fred Runk (1:300/6.2) who said: BB> Yes, I read some of hers ages ago and had the same reaction. One of BB> my favorite writers is Ruth Rendell who is so incredibly BB> prolific that she began to write as Barbara Vine too. BB> Although her Wexford books are procedurals even they are BB> not predictable. >I've read several of her Wexford books, but I think I was bothered by the >digressions into his family life. I don't mind aspects of that >interspersed >with the mystery in order to give the work a more "lifelike" feel, but I >felt that his homelife was the main story at times and his job was a >secondary issue. And that wasn't why I was reading her novels. Ah, but that's what I DO enjoy about her! In the most recent one (SIMISOLA), for example, the crime involves rascism and at the same time events happen within in Wexford's family that force him to examine his own racial feelings. --- msged 2.05 * Origin: 1:109/253 Dinah's Scrabblemania (1:109/253) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAA00010 Date: 06/05/96 From: BELLE BIJOU Time: 10:54pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 4 times) Subj: Exceptions I'd like to say to , Fred Runk (1:300/6.2) who said: >Finished Elizabeth George's PLAYING FOR THE ASHES. It's another >interesting >work by her. This one is a bit different from the others as the reader >gets >to see much of the story from another person's point of view. Not the >murderer of course, but one closely involved. >Good story. Looking forward to her next one, which I think is already >out >in hb--IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ENEMY. Let me know what you think. I've enjoyed most of her books so far, but IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ENEMY got a terrible review in The Washington Post so I've been a bit leery. I'm always trying to figure out if the reviewer has any obvious bias, but this review was so scathing, so totally negative that I honestly didn't know what to make of it. Sounds like the book (like PLAYING FOR THE ASHES) has a split story and the usual characters don't show up until half way through. --- msged 2.05 * Origin: 1:109/253 Dinah's Scrabblemania (1:109/253) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAB00000 Date: 06/06/96 From: MIKE NICHOLS Time: 10:43am \/To: KATHLEEN WEBER (Read 4 times) Subj: Cornwell -> But seriously, don't you think that authenticity really -> differentiates the good writers from the best writers? KW> I certainly do! Though some science fiction and fantasy writers would KW> disagree... ;-) Hehehe. Even that is open to debate. When I was reading SF in the old days, the Clarke's and Asimov's were connected to the science of the day. It made for good writing. But I haven't read the stuff since I was 25, too many better books in the mystery genre to get through. I'm just knocking off the "J" book by Grafton. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: The Clubhouse/T.O.T.T. BBS [OS/2] <204-489-9081> (1:348/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAB00001 Date: 06/06/96 From: MIKE NICHOLS Time: 10:50am \/To: STEVEN HORN (Read 4 times) Subj: My mail! SH> It's not "your mail", Mike. It's public mail SH> posted in an echo which anyone may answer. Thanks for clearing things up for me. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: The Clubhouse/T.O.T.T. BBS [OS/2] <204-489-9081> (1:348/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAB00002 Date: 06/05/96 From: MAUREEN GOLDMAN Time: 08:40am \/To: CATHERINE VANICEK (Read 4 times) Subj: Where is everybody? On (01 Jun 96) Catherine Vanicek wrote to DOROTHY REYNOLDS... CV> My regualr BBS, Bitter Butter Butter, Portland-Oregon area, is going CV> down permanently very soon. I don't know where I'll get a replacement CV> to carry MYSTERY. Have you thought of running your own board? I still haven't figured out whether it is possible to access individual echoes via Internet, but Pamela seems to do it on occasion. (I signed on with a new Internet provider that is having start-up difficulties, so I am clueless.) ... A few cats short of a full-strung violin. --- PPoint 1.88 * Origin: Point of No Deposit, No Return (1:153/404.11) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAB00003 Date: 06/05/96 From: JAN MURPHY Time: 07:09am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: My mail! > Mike Nichols (1:348/601) wrote to Mike Nichols [in Virginia?] > at 09:25 on 01 Jun 1996: > > MN> Please don't answer my mail. It's confusing for those > who don't > MN> read origin lines. There are a bunch of us who share > the same name > MN> out here in fidoland. And Steven Horn replies > It's not "your mail", Mike. It's public mail posted in > an echo which anyone may answer. > > Now if he was answering your netmail, you'd have reason > to be worried.:-) Problem is, there are several BBS packages which scan the echomail areas and present matching messages to the user as 'your mail'. Yes, these are public messages in an echomail area, not netmail. If non-Winnipeg Mike wants to join in the conversation, he is free to do so. On the other hand, since we can't immediately see that he is not Mike-in-Winnipeg (we can read the origin line, but it's not immediately apparent -- many systems don't put a location in their origin line), it causes confusion. And since messages may be presented to a user out of the context of the echo, it also causes confusion. Therefore I suggest the following useful rules of 'netiquette': 1) If you are presented with 'mail' in your 'new messages' display, and someone you don't know is talking to you about something you don't remember talking about, they are probably talking to another user with your same name. They aren't talking to you, so it isn't necessary for you to answer. So writing 'I don't know what you are talking about, why are you writing to me' is unnecessary and kind of lame. Just ignore the messages, the same way you'd ignore it if someone called out your name on the street and when you turned to look, it was someone you didn't know. 2) If you like the conversation and want to join in, identify yourself as 'the other ' or sign your message with ' in ' or in some fashion that will make it clear you are a new person joining the conversation. 3) Answering messages which are addressed to another person, and attempting to impersonate that other person, is rude and annoying. Assuming that someone else with the same name who answers messages to you is deliberately trying to impersonate you, without evidence of same, is also annoying. It's Fidonet tradition not to be excessively annoying and not to be too easily annoyed. Be polite when pointing out these confusions --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Sci-Fido II, World's Oldest SF BBS, Berkeley, CA (1:161/84.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: DAB00004 Date: 06/06/96 From: DENNIS MCCUNNEY Time: 12:48am \/To: MIKE NICHOLS (Read 4 times) Subj: My mail! ** From Mike Nichols to Mike Nichols on 02 Jun 96 18:49:00 ** My mail! MN> sorry about that, but it confuses me to, I just keep getting these MN> mail alerts, and I actually knew some of the people writing them. MN> Sorry. I'll just avoid this section from now on. The simple solution is for one of you to change the name you use on the BBS, by adding a middle initial. It will do a lot to keep straight just which Mike Nichols is talking. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304)