--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5S00000 Date: 05/21/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 12:29pm \/To: MAUREEN GOLDMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: hello? -=> While in the White Hart, Maureen Goldman insisted to Fred Runk that <=- MG> Another repeated scene is the haughty person who is nude in MG> front of people she considers to be nobodies (changing clothes, MG> swimming, etc.). This isn't in the least intended as a turn-on MG> but as a put-down. I always expect some hearty sort to just MG> appreciate the nekkid lady, but everyone appropriately wilts. FR> In which novels did this occur? I don't remember encountering this. MG> THE SKULL UNDER THE SKIN (very tedious book, in my opinion), MG> also that one about the nuclear power plant. I shall have to review those works. Obviously I didn't see it as a problem. Perhaps she wasn't depicting "some hearty sort," but someone who would be intimidated by one who seemed unconcerned about violating the nudity taboo of their culture. Well, that's what makes for horse races--differences of opinion. I'm currently reading Elizabeth George's PLAYING FOR THE ASHES. Have you read this one? ... Life...candle in the wind, frost on the tiles. Old Chinese Proverb ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5S00001 Date: 05/21/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 12:35pm \/To: DELORES E ROWE (Read 2 times) Subj: hello -=> While in the White Hart, Delores E Rowe insisted to Fred Runk that <=- DER> When I lived in England, the White Hart was our "local"!! I had thought for many years that the White Hart was an invented pub, until someone else informed me otherwise a few months ago. DER> Hmmm....yes...it's a great, black, eddying vortex, filled with words DER> of wisdom, never to be heard or shared or acted upon.:) Sigh--how true. DER> Ooops! I meant to say MYSTERY! Yes, I saw Mind For Murder last week, DER> and found it to be as good as the others they have done. My only gripe was that it was too short. I think several subplots and "distractions" were left out. Should reread it to get a better idea of what was eliminated for the TV version. DER> She must be getting on in age now, but she still has a very sharp DER> mind. Late 70s or early 80s possibly. FR>Who else are some of your favorites? Do you have a FR>favorite type of mystery tale? DER> DER> I like psychological mysteries, murder mysteries, espionage...more or DER> less anything good involving crime, medicine and the law. Some of my DER> What about you? My preference in mystery recently runs to the police procedural category, especially Scotland Yard for some reason, which is why my favorite authors now are PD James, Elizabeth George, Martha Grimes, and Colin Dexter (I know--he's Oxford, but that's close enough). William Bayer's Lt. Janek mysteries, also. He's an exception, as I tend to avoid American detective tales as they generally run a bit high on violence, and I can get all I want on TV daily. I also like the mysteries that are set in different cultures and different times, such as Ellis Peters' Brother Cadfael, Anne Perry's Victorian era private agent Monk, and Davis' Roman informer Falco. Of course, one can't forget Judge Dee, the 7th century Chinese judge/detective. Among the classics? Agatha Christie's Miss Marple and Dorothy Sayers' Lord Peter. And Holmes, of course. DER> I have been an avid reader since I was a child, and feel totally lost DER> if I don't have at least one book sitting on my coffee table, waiting DER> to be read. I am surrounded by bookcases, and feel a house is not a DER> home if there are no books in it. Bookcases? Naturally? Doesn't everybody? My roof is held up by bookcases, not walls. Also an avid reader--perhaps addicted is closer to the truth. FR>... Molly the HouseGoddess says, "Life is hard, then you nap." DER> DER> By any chance, does Molly have fur, and does she purr when she gets DER> her own way? ;> Yes and no. Yes she has fur. She is one of the tuxedo variety. No, she generally does not purr when she gets her own way. She sees no reason to since getting her own way is expected, like the sun rising in the East every morning. Purring takes place when something special happens, such as conning me into a second helping of her favorite treats. Right now, she just sat down on my foot, indicating she has orders for me. Excuse me for a second.....Lunch time. I've just started reading Elizabeth George's PLAYING FOR THE ASHES. Next in line are Colin Dexter's THE DAUGHTERS OF CAIN (love Morse on MYSTERY, although lately it has been very disappointing--the writer just doesn't "do" Morse right and the plots leave much to be desired. Wish the first writer would come back--she had a much better feel for Morse and Dexter's plotting. After that, then comes BROTHER CADFAEL'S PENANCE, and Caleb Grant's THE ALIENIST. And you? ... Trust in Allah--but tie your camel tight! Persian Proverb. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5S00002 Date: 05/22/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 11:28am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Happy Birthday ... On this day, May 22, in the year--- 1859, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was born in Edinburgh. ... A feature is a bug with seniority. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5T00000 Date: 05/22/96 From: DELORES E ROWE Time: 09:34am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 3 times) Subj: what are you reading... Fred Runk stopped by to chat about books and stuff... FR>-=> While in the White Hart, Delores E Rowe insisted to Fred Runk that <=- FR> DER> When I lived in England, the White Hart was our "local"!! FR>I had thought for many years that the White Hart was an invented pub, ntil FR>someone else informed me otherwise a few months ago. <> There is probably a White Hart in every fourth village! :) FR> DER> Ooops! I meant to say MYSTERY! Yes, I saw Mind For Murder last eek, FR> DER> and found it to be as good as the others they have done. FR>My only gripe was that it was too short. I think several subplots and FR>"distractions" were left out. Should reread it to get a better idea of what FR>was eliminated for the TV version. Well, considering it was condensed into what - 3 hours - I guess it wasn't too bad! FR> DER> She must be getting on in age now, but she still has a very sharp FR> DER> mind. FR>Late 70s or early 80s possibly. Must be, because I remember reading something about her wartime service. FR>My preference in mystery recently runs to the police procedural category, FR>especially Scotland Yard for some reason, which is why my favorite authors FR>now are PD James, Elizabeth George, Martha Grimes, and Colin Dexter (I FR>know--he's Oxford, but that's close enough). I love the Dexter books...I like Morse's sardonic sense of humor. I also now think of John Thaw as Morse! If I saw him in something else his character would probably be totally unbelievable! FR>William Bayer's Lt. Janek mysteries, also. He's an exception, FR>as I tend to avoid American detective tales as they generally run FR>a bit high on violence, and I can get all I want on TV daily. I like Janek, also. There is another case of association...when I think of Janek, I think of Richard Crenna. :) FR>I also like the mysteries that are set in different cultures and different FR>times, such as Ellis Peters' Brother Cadfael, Anne Perry's Victorian era FR>private agent Monk, and Davis' Roman informer Falco. Of course, one can't FR>forget Judge Dee, the 7th century Chinese judge/detective. I have a hard time with a lot of "period" type novels, anything gothic, or science fiction. I did read,I think it was called The Rose?? It was made into a movie later with Sean Connery playing the monk orwhatever he was. I have read quite a fewSherlock Holmes mysteries, but really can't say I have ever particularly enjoyed any of the movie productions. FR>Among the classics? Agatha Christie's Miss Marple and Dorothy FR>Sayers' Lord Peter. Yes, to Miss Marple. Yuk, to Lord Peter! :) I also have enjoyed several of Somerset Maugham. FR>Bookcases? Naturally? Doesn't everybody? My roof is held up by bookcases, FR>not walls. :) FR>Also an avid reader--perhaps addicted is closer to the truth. Yeah, but the side effects are minimal! :) FR> FR>... Molly the HouseGoddess says, "Life is hard, then you nap." FR> DER> By any chance, does Molly have fur, and does she purr when she gets FR> DER> her own way? ;> FR>Yes and no. Yes she has fur. She is one of the tuxedo variety. FR>No, she generally does not purr when she gets her own way. She sees no FR>reason to since getting her own way is expected, like the sun rising in he FR>East every morning. Any one owned by a cat can relate to that statement! FR>Purring takes place when something special happens, such as conning me nto FR>a second helping of her favorite treats. FR>Right now, she just sat down on my foot, indicating she has orders for me. FR>Excuse me for a second.....Lunch time. Oh...is that what it means when my Siamese comes and lays on my foot? I thought it was just a matter of convenience...hers, not mine! FR>I've just started reading Elizabeth George's PLAYING FOR THE ASHES. Next in FR>line are Colin Dexter's THE DAUGHTERS OF CAIN (love Morse on MYSTERY, FR>although lately it has been very disappointing--the writer just doesn't "do" FR>Morse right and the plots leave much to be desired. Wish the first writer FR>would come back--she had a much better feel for Morse and Dexter's plotting. I also like the series with the woman CID Detective Inspector...gad, it must be late, her name escapes me! Helen Mirren plays the lead. FR>After that, then comes BROTHER CADFAEL'S PENANCE, and Caleb Grant's FR>THE ALIENIST. FR>And you? I just finished reading SPENCERVILLE, by Nelson Demille. He also wrote THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER. It was not a bad read. Am now reading TILL THE BUTCHER'S CUT HIM DOWN, by Marcia Muller. After that will be Michael Crichton, A CASE OF NEED. Crichton has written some good books but I still think that THE TERMINAL MAN was his best. I also have a penchant for NY Times crossword puzzles and those done by Will Weng. As you can imagine, I spend very little time wondering what to do next! :) Nice talking to you! TTYL. *** SLMR 2.1a Let sleeping cats lie. --- TriToss (tm) Professional 10.0 - #189 * Origin: The Mystic Korner, Wenatchee, Wa. 509.886.7607 - 884.0352 (1:344/115.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5T00001 Date: 05/21/96 From: MIKE NICHOLS Time: 07:09pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 2 times) Subj: Cornwell SS> I am a BIG Patricia Cornwell Fan!! FR> Tell me something about her. What type does she FR> do? Continuing character? FR> Or a new set each work? Just had to butt in. I had Ms. Cornwell highly recommended to me here last year. I've read all her books. With the exception of `The Body Farm', they have been great. Her main continuing character is Dr. Kay Scarpetta, a pathologist. I can't speak for the accuracy of the medical descriptions, but the writing is very good. That's all I usually require in a book, good writing. Anyway, I'd recommend the first book in the series: Post-Mortem. It's really good, it actually got my pulse rate bouncing along in one scene. Cheers, Mike. --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: The Clubhouse/T.O.T.T. BBS [OS/2] (1:348/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5U00000 Date: 05/24/96 From: MAUREEN GOLDMAN Time: 09:00am \/To: DELORES E ROWE (Read 2 times) Subj: what are you reading... On (22 May 96) Delores E Rowe wrote to Fred Runk... DE> I love the Dexter books...I like Morse's sardonic sense of humor. I DE> also now think of John Thaw as Morse! If I saw him in something else DE> his character would probably be totally unbelievable! I've seen him in several other shows. There was that mini-series about the writer living in France. Also some sitcom that I only watched once, a single father and his son or somesuch. Although it can be difficult to disconnect mentally from the Morse image, it isn't impossible. It is more as though this is what Morse would have been like if his life had taken a different turn. ... It is things like this that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! --- PPoint 1.88 * Origin: Point of No Deposit, No Return (1:153/404.11) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5U00001 Date: 05/23/96 From: STEPHANIE SHAPTER Time: 05:34pm \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 2 times) Subj: Patricia Cornwell -=> Quoting Fred Runk to Stephanie Shapter <=- Hi Fred!! SS> I am a BIG Patricia Cornwell Fan!! FR> Tell me something about her. What type does she do? Continuing FR> character? Or a new set each work? Patricia Cornwell is an author from Richmond, VA and a former member of the Richmond Police Department. She writes police procedurals, but her main charcter is a woman by the name of Kay Scarpetta. She is the Chief Medical Examiner. The stories are based on her level of procedures, and I have found them to be pretty true to form and VERY interesting. Her latest is called "From Potters Field" but I haven't started it yet!! One of her first novels was called "Body of Evidence". Try her, she's wonderful!! Stephanie ... Do not judge a book by its movie. --- Where Friends Meet!! * Origin: * The Recovery Nest * Burleson,TX * 817-447-1619 * (1:130/911) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5U00002 Date: 05/24/96 From: JAN PERKINS Time: 07:00am \/To: FRED RUNK (Read 2 times) Subj: HELLO? On 05-20-96 FRED RUNK wrote to JAN PERKINS... FR> I'm probably wrong about this, but isn't FIVE RED HERRINGS one of Dorothy Sayer's Lord Peter Wimsey tales? Didn't that one take place in an artist's colony? Whoops, you're absolutely right -I should have checked my bookshelves :-( Now *what* on earth was the Tey I was thinking of? FR> How would you compare Miss Pym with Agatha Christie's Miss Marple? Alike? Different?Superior? Inferior? Equal? Or perhaps a nonsense question? Completely different. In the book, she was a person who in middle age wrote a pop psychology book that turned out to be successful and it rather went to her head, leading her to believe she understood people and motivations a lot more than she actually did. As far as I am aware she is a one time only character. Very likable. jan --- * OFFLINE 1.58 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5U00003 Date: 05/24/96 From: FRED RUNK Time: 06:01pm \/To: DELORES E ROWE (Read 2 times) Subj: what are you reading... -=> While in the White Hart, Delores E Rowe insisted to Fred Runk that <=- DER> <> There is probably a White Hart in every fourth village! :) Ah, but this is a special White Hart; not everyone can find it. And not everyone who finds it can find it again. DER> Ooops! I meant to say MYSTERY! Yes, I saw Mind For Murder last week, DER> and found it to be as good as the others they have done. DER> Well, considering it was condensed into what - 3 hours - I guess it DER> wasn't too bad! Hmmm, we saw the two hour version. Maybe that's why it seemed short. DER> I love the Dexter books...I like Morse's sardonic sense of humor. I DER> also now think of John Thaw as Morse! If I saw him in something else DER> his character would probably be totally unbelievable! I have seen him in something else, escapes me presently, and I did have trouble dissociating him. He also was in the TV version of Peter Mayle's books about living in Provence--I gather he played "Mayle." FR>William Bayer's Lt. Janek mysteries, also. He's an exception, FR>as I tend to avoid American detective tales as they generally run FR>a bit high on violence, and I can get all I want on TV daily. DER> DER> I like Janek, also. There is another case of association...when I DER> think of Janek, I think of Richard Crenna. :) Yes, same here. Just read MIRROR MAZE, Bayer's latest Janek mystery. I can't help but see him as Crenna either. A friend of mine insists that Crenna was on TV years ago, on a 50s sitcon called OUR MISS BROOKS. Crenna played a goofy teenager on that. I remember watching the show regularly, but I can't connect Crenna with that character. DER> I have a hard time with a lot of "period" type novels, anything DER> gothic, or science fiction. Ah, I'm a real devotee of SF, been so for many decades now. That's probably why I like the period mysteries and history and anthro and cultural studies and so forth. DER> I did read,I think it was called The Rose?? It was made into a movie later with Sean Connery playing the monk or whatever he was. Eco's THE NAME OF THE ROSE. Yes, loved it. Had all that good period, historical stuff, and also I was raised Catholic. Loved the name of Sean Connery's character, the english monk--Brother William of Baskerville. I think Eco enjoyed sneaking that in there. DER> I have read quite a fewSherlock Holmes mysteries, but really can't say DER> I have ever particularly enjoyed any of the movie productions. For a long time I saw Sherlock as Basil Rathbone, but no more. The PBS Sherlock Holmes has taken over. I also liked the PBS version's portrayal of Doctor Watson. I always felt the movie depiction made him out to be a blithering idiot, which he clearly wasn't in Doyle's mind. DER> Yes, to Miss Marple. Yuk, to Lord Peter! :) I also have enjoyed DER> several of Somerset Maugham. Somerset Maugham? DER> Yeah, but the side effects are minimal! :) Not to my bank account. FR>Right now, she just sat down on my foot, indicating she has orders for e. FR>Excuse me for a second.....Lunch time. DER> DER> Oh...is that what it means when my Siamese comes and lays on my foot? DER> I thought it was just a matter of convenience...hers, not mine! Molly generally doesn't do that, unless she's trying to get my attention. Yours may simply be enjoying plopping down on your foot--gets contact comfort and attention. DER> I also like the series with the woman CID Detective Inspector...gad, DER> it must be late, her name escapes me! Helen Mirren plays the lead. ahhhh, PRIME SUSPECT? It's now showing up on MASTERPIECE THEATRE around here. I guess somebody figured it would get a wider audience that way? DER> I just finished reading SPENCERVILLE, by Nelson Demille. He also DER> wrote THE GENERAL'S DAUGHTER. It was not a bad read. Am now reading DER> TILL THE BUTCHER'S CUT HIM DOWN, by Marcia Muller. After that will be DER> Michael Crichton, A CASE OF NEED. Crichton has written some good DER> books but I still think that THE TERMINAL MAN was his best. Haven't read that much by Crichton, aside from TERMINAL MAN. One of these days I will pick up his novel set in an alternate universe, one when the Germans had invaded and conquered England. DER> I also have a penchant for NY Times crossword puzzles and those done DER> by Will Weng. As you can imagine, I spend very little time wondering DER> what to do next! :) And do you time yourself as another devoted crossword does is wont to do? DER> X SLMR 2.1a X Let sleeping cats lie. I've suggested to Molly that it is also good to let sleeping humans lie--but she doesn't get the point--or ignores it. ... With true friends...Even water drunk together is sweet enough. ___ X Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 X --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Fred's Place (1:300/6.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 244 MYSTERY Ref: D5V00000 Date: 05/25/96 From: PHILLIP MCCLOUD Time: 12:14pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: New Address * Crossposted from: The Cracker Barrel Hey all, Just a quick note to let you know, I've moved. My new address is as follows, of course you can reach me at either, or both f you like: 1:105/40.520 or dirtroad!phil.mccloud@postes.gaylord.org I look forward to hearing from ya'll, Phil ... Phil McCloud, Portland, OR (USA) (FIDONET 1:105/40.520) --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: Bitter Butter Better BBS, Tualatin OR, 503-691-7938 (1:105/290)